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skiswami
22-Oct-2009, 17:16
Can somebody advise me if my Boolean logic is wrong on this because it just seems too good to be true. It also seems that nobody else has noted this “apparent” good deal - maybe it’s just all the hoopla surrounding the the new Epson 3880.

For somebody considering their first move up to a 17" printer (from a decent 8.5” desktop photo printer - HP 7960), how could I, or anyone else, go wrong with the Canon IPF5100 when the actual hardware (excluding ink) costs only a net of $75?

Yes, I calculate, $75 total – brand new.

The IPF5100 can be had new for around $1575 with free shipping and no tax. With the current $200 rebate, good until 12/31, that means I’ll pay out $1,375 net cash. But - that comes with 12 90ml. starter cartridges valued at ~$650. Then, the rebate also includes a second full set of 12 90ml. carts worth another $650. So that’s $1,300 ink for my $1,375, costing me only $75 for all the hardware on a new 17” printer!

Assuming I use all that ink before it expires (a good question – I’ll try), how is it not insane to consider any other 17” printer? For that matter, why would anyone (who has the space) buy anything smaller, even if they only used up ~2/3 of the ink supplied? I’ll keep the HP 7960 for smaller snapshot prints because it’s still decent, but it's ink costs are very high.

I don’t know, but this seems to be a no-brainer compared to a 3800 or 4880 with current rebates, or the new 3880. Any mistakes in my math before I present my argument to “the boss?”

JeffKohn
22-Oct-2009, 20:41
With the second set of inks it sounds like a very good deal. In fact I may have to talk to the wife about possibly getting a 6100....

I've been using a 5000 for a while now, and am very happy with it after upgrading from an Epson 2400. With the 5000/5100 you get dual black inks (no swapping and wasting ink), plus a motorized roll feed and vacuum feed (the 3800 doesn't have either). The 90ml cartridges will last you a long time. And I wouldn't worry about them expiring, they'll keep for quite some time unopened. Just give them a gentle shake before you install them. All of the ink cartridges currently installed in my 5000 are over a year old except for one, and they're still working fine.

skiswami
22-Oct-2009, 21:01
Thanks, new-guy-first-poster for answering my newguyfirstpost! What do you say we take this place over!!

Just kidding, long-time-posters! I'm sure I speak for both me and Jeff in saying this looks like a great forum. So I guess I got my math right at least...

venchka
30-Oct-2009, 06:11
Hello Second Posters! I've seen Jeff's prints up close and personal. Like in my hands. Big prints. 24" or 25" on the long side. Jeff's prints from his Canon 5000 are fantastic. I'm glad I don't have room for the 5100 or I would be sorely tempted.

Good luck! You won't regret buying the Canon.

Jeff: If you buy a 6100 make me an offer I can't refuse for your 5000.

Donald Miller
30-Oct-2009, 12:59
This is for two of "starter set" of ink tanks...that does not amount to a $75 net cost to the purchaser.

Donald Miller

JeffKohn
30-Oct-2009, 18:16
This is for two of "starter set" of ink tanks...that does not amount to a $75 net cost to the purchaser.

Donald Miller
The Canon rebate says they're a $650 value, and if you do the math on what the 'full' 130ml cartridges sell for, that's not too far off. Atlex and ITSupplies sell them for about $75. So you're getting $1200 worth of ink. Not bad for a $1350 printer.