post alternative techniques

[Ron McElroy]

Scan of print
Dawn, Aces&Spades, North Shore
Platinum over Pigment


Great Print
I like the subtle color the undercolor printing gives this image.

[Jim collum]

Great Print
I like the subtle color the undercolor printing gives this image.

thank you!

the prints look nothing like inkjets.. they still have that 'below the surface' depth that platinum prints do. most of my images have very subtle color/saturation, as to not overpower that depth and tone of the platinum

here's another from the Salton Sea series


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/pt-salton-paintcan.jpg

[Jim collum]

From the Metamorphosis series


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/pt-abstract1.jpg


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/pt-astract2.jpg



http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/pt-abstract3.jpg



http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/pt-abstract4.jpg

[Jim collum]

from Cement Works


Red Button

http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/pt-redbutton.jpg


Silo

http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/pt-cementsilo.jpg

[Jiri Vasina]

From the Metamorphosis series




Jim,

this series is stunning, I have to think really hard if I have ever seen such beautiful rock abstracts. And I don't I have. Stunning. If you could add some more to that portfolio and let us (me :D ) see it...

Jiri

[Jim collum]

Jim,

this series is stunning, I have to think really hard if I have ever seen such beautiful rock abstracts. And I don't I have. Stunning. If you could add some more to that portfolio and let us (me :D ) see it...

Jiri

i have 60-70 images in that series.. taken over a 4 year period on 2 beaches here. I'll be working most of them up in Pt over Pig

[Jim collum]

Jim,

this series is stunning, I have to think really hard if I have ever seen such beautiful rock abstracts. And I don't I have. Stunning. If you could add some more to that portfolio and let us (me :D ) see it...

Jiri

and thank you very much for the kind words about the work. My color palate isn't alway the most popular

[Emil Schildt]

Jim - these are wonderful! and I , for one, loves the suttelty in your colours...

(My twin once made some oilprints over inkjet. Looks nice, but they are very "messy" compared to this...)

I don't know how many alternative printing techniques we now have represented, but it is good to see so amazing results, done "by hand", so to speak.

I have one, I havn't seen too many of elsewhere...
don't even know, whether it applyes to alternative printing.. but it is alternative..

"Acetone print".
one of the most easy - fastest - and most poisonous techniques I know of....

first a normal print is made - then a colour copy on a copying maschine.

this copy is laid on a piece of thick copper printing paper, and then soaked with acetone....

another piece of paper is put on top, and the whole thing pulled through a etching press, under high pressure...

voila - the image has been transferred to the copper printing paper..

this is later slightly hand coloured.

the acetone is the tricky part. you can make beautiful prints in two minutes, but each print will take ten years of your sane life......;-)

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/4/8/8/7/c003.jpg

[SadChi]

From the Metamorphosis series


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/pt-abstract1.jpg


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/pt-astract2.jpg



http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/pt-abstract3.jpg



http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/pt-abstract4.jpg

Jim, great shots.

[sanchi heuser]

Hi Jim,

the print "another from the Salton Sea Series" (#252)
is absolutely wonderful.
Color is so subtle, together with a very good composition makes
it a master print IMO.

sanchi

[Andrew ren]

Jim,

I must say those pieces "Metamorphosis series" are really nice!

Thanks for sharing..

Andrew

[Joe Smigiel]

That acetone transfer is absolutely gorgeous Emil. I think it is has been my favorite of all the images I've seen from you over the years. And you know how much I've enjoyed the others.

Joe

[Kerik Kouklis]

Hey Jim!

Nice work. I've been to the Salton Sea once and want to get back there soon.

[Jim collum]

Hey Jim!

Nice work. I've been to the Salton Sea once and want to get back there soon.

hey there. one of these days i'm gonna come up and spring for your gum over Pt workshop. i figure it's the next step for me :) (possibly carbon as well)

I've had an itch to go back there myself. It's been a couple years, and I'm sure it's changed a lot since.

jim

[Kirk Gittings]

Really nice work Jim.

[Patrick Dixon]

Hi Jim,

the print "another from the Salton Sea Series" (#252)
is absolutely wonderful.
Color is so subtle, together with a very good composition makes
it a master print IMO.

sanchi

Yes - I love that one too.

[sly]

So many incredible images here. This is my small contribution. I am still learning alt processes. This is gum over cyanotype. A cliche subject for LF, but I've never photographed calla lilies before.

[Patrick Dixon]

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/4/8/8/7/c003.jpg
This is terrific too.

[D. Bryant]

So many incredible images here. This is my small contribution. I am still learning alt processes. This is gum over cyanotype. A cliche subject for LF, but I've never photographed calla lilies before.

Nice work Sly.

Don Bryant

[Jason Greenberg Motamedi]

4x5 Daguerreotype with a 150mm Xenotar 2.5 minutes @ f5.6

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_C1o_oyshTFw/RjvT9PHMghI/AAAAAAAAAAM/iSIi-EEC8zY/s1600-h/BananaFlower.jpg

[PenGun]

Jim - these are wonderful! and I , for one, loves the suttelty in your colours...

(My twin once made some oilprints over inkjet. Looks nice, but they are very "messy" compared to this...)

I don't know how many alternative printing techniques we now have represented, but it is good to see so amazing results, done "by hand", so to speak.

I have one, I havn't seen too many of elsewhere...
don't even know, whether it applyes to alternative printing.. but it is alternative..

"Acetone print".
one of the most easy - fastest - and most poisonous techniques I know of....

first a normal print is made - then a colour copy on a copying maschine.

this copy is laid on a piece of thick copper printing paper, and then soaked with acetone....

another piece of paper is put on top, and the whole thing pulled through a etching press, under high pressure...

voila - the image has been transferred to the copper printing paper..

this is later slightly hand coloured.

the acetone is the tricky part. you can make beautiful prints in two minutes, but each print will take ten years of your sane life......;-)

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/4/8/8/7/c003.jpg

Lovely prints. Acetone is not dangerous. You actually make small amounts in your body.

[sly]

Nice work Sly.

Don Bryant

Thank you Don, Love your work.

Here is another gum over cyano that I just finished today. Another cliche, pears are such a wonderful shape.

[fuegocito]

Finally caught up to all the fantastic images here, how does it go again; the more I know, the less I know:) Great work everyone!

Robert

[Joe Smigiel]

Sly, Both the Calla and the pears are superb! I think the Calla is probably the best example of a gum over cyanotype that I've ever seen.

[Joe Smigiel]

Jason,

That's a great dag. Are you doing mercury dags again?

Joe

[Jason Greenberg Motamedi]

Jason,

That's a great dag. Are you doing mercury dags again?

Joe

Thanks Joe, and yes I am finally set up to use mercury again.

[sly]

Sly, Both the Calla and the pears are superb! I think the Calla is probably the best example of a gum over cyanotype that I've ever seen.

Joe, I'm blown away by your praise:D . I feel like I"m just getting going with LF and alt printing. Thank you so much.

[Emil Schildt]

I hope this thread isn't dying...
so here is my latest bromoil print.

Laura is a student of mine. she is a fantastic person - extreamly beautiful - pure gold in her soul..
And to top it, she is a fantastic painter! With a large, impressive production behind her....

(And she is only 23...!)
So I made this portrait of her in bromoil - and I did it "wrongly" on purpose - to get a sense of sketch in the image. Because of her being a painter..

Question is - does it work?

http://www.phosee.dk/pictures/00000117/199-fotografi.jpg

[Jim collum]

Question is - does it work?

http://www.phosee.dk/pictures/00000117/199-fotografi.jpg

Emphatically... yes!

[dwross]

Absolutely. It may be the most beautiful print of all your work I've seen (i.e. a superlative superlative.)

[kev curry]

.....ridiculously good!

[cjbroadbent]

Gandolfi,
Superb!

[Jiri Vasina]

Gandolfi, what others said. You are a true master.

Jiri

[Jim collum]

First attempt to print Pt over pigment on Japanese Goyu Kozo paper (Mullberry). the paper is very thin, and the difficulty is getting it thru the printer for the color layer

color layer:

http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/garrapata_026d-color.jpg


scan of print:

http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/pt-arisen.jpg

The paper soaks up the solution like a sponge, so in addition to the platinum/palladium and sensitizer, extra water needs to be added. This attempt was adding as much water as solution (image size of this print is about 8x10). i have some 11x14's to do, but need to get the workflow down on a smaller size first. The paper is fairly translucent after you print on it, so you'd need an additional white backing to provide the 'white' of the image

[Jeremy Moore]

First attempt to print Pt over pigment on Japanese Goyu Kozo paper (Mullberry). the paper is very thin, and the difficulty is getting it thru the printer for the color layer

Jim, have you tried taping the mulberry firmly down to another sheet? I do this with vellum and just sacrificed a donor sheet of inkjet paper to play carrier sheet to all of the vellum through the printer.

[Don7x17]

Jim, have you tried taping the mulberry firmly down to another sheet? I do this with vellum and just sacrificed a donor sheet of inkjet paper to play carrier sheet to all of the vellum through the printer.

try taping only the edge that gets fed first....leaving the other 3 sides of Kozo loose so they doing get creased...

[Jim collum]

ok... getting the knack of kozo and platinum over pigment. The paper just drinks the solution, so after some experimenting, the ideal is to add as much extra water as you put in the Ferric Oxalate solution. For an 11x14, it's 36 drops Ferric Ox., 24 drops Palladium, 12 drops Platinum and then an additional 36 drops water.

Here's a scan of the 11x14 print

http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/scan_pt_474859.jpg

[Paul Metcalf]

Ok folks- you that mask your negatives prior to contact printing using construction paper or such - do you have any issues with maintaining contact pressure in your frame? I tried to outsmart myself by using some red film for stage lights, thinking that red would be a sufficient mask (even if transparent) due to UV sensitivity of emulsion (saltprint specifically) and thin enough to allow for good contact, but there was still a fair amount of exposure on the masked frame. So I guess I need something opaque but I'm wondering about thickness and maintaining good contact pressure. I know it must work as I see examples herein, but need more info on materials. thanks.

[Don7x17]

Ok folks- you that mask your negatives prior to contact printing using construction paper or such - do you have any issues with maintaining contact pressure in your frame? I tried to outsmart myself by using some red film for stage lights, thinking that red would be a sufficient mask (even if transparent) due to UV sensitivity of emulsion (saltprint specifically) and thin enough to allow for good contact, but there was still a fair amount of exposure on the masked frame. So I guess I need something opaque but I'm wondering about thickness and maintaining good contact pressure. I know it must work as I see examples herein, but need more info on materials. thanks.

Go down to your local arts supplier and pick up some rubylith film -- cheap, very thin. You don't have to remove it from its backing to use -- just low tack tape. Works better than construction paper, and will block more UV than the stage lighting filters.

If you don't have an arts supplier, you can find it on the internet and have it shipped.

[David Hedley]

Gandolfi - I am in awe of your work - superb!

[Brian Ellis]

This is by far - I mean BY FAR - the best thread of photographs ever done in this forum IMHO. The images in this thread are almost uniformly excellent, not just the photographs themselves but the beautiful processes and the matching of process to subject. I spent a year or so working with gum and van dyke brown but never achieved the standard of excellence displayed here. You all are to be congratulated for your dedication to learning these processes(I remember how discouraging my early attempts at gum were and how easy it is to give up), your skill in using them, and your photographic talents. If I had never done any alt processes these images would inspire me to try to learn a few and if I had the space I'd be dragging out all my old gum materials right now.

[Emil Schildt]

Brian; you're too kind.
Bu I agree that I in here have seen images, I'd never thought could exist.
I wish more people woulf chime in with their images..

While I am waiting for that, I ahve had some more fun with the bromoil attemts of Laura...
I LOVE the possibillities the bromoil presents.
Using liquid emulsion on heavy paper - totally unhardened, makes it possible to melt the emulsion after the printing (just with hot water) or I can bleach out/redevelop areas of interest.
then bromoil bleach and make the bromoil.

Fun - frustrating when it is not a success - and happynes when it works...

also, when doing bromoil, one can make the image "incomplete" - like a drawing or quick painting. I like that.

So here are two, I did today.
the first is Laura in profile, made almost like a reddish/brown charcoal drawing.

the second is made almost like a B/W pencil drawing.

http://www.phosee.dk/pictures/00000118/858-laura-i-profil_800x600.jpg

.
http://www.phosee.dk/pictures/00000118/864-laura_800x600.jpg

I am off to Prague for some days... so maybe I can leave this messy stuff alone for a while.....

[Akki14]

Mine's not like the great Gandolfi...
http://www.stargazy.org/cyanocalla5-sm.jpg
Traditional cyanotype on watercolour paper.

[Kerik Kouklis]

14x17 Gum over palladium print from a digital negative made from a wet plate collodion original:

http://kerik.com/rachel.jpg

[Jim collum]

14x17 Gum over palladium print from a digital negative made from a wet plate collodion original:



outstanding!

[Jeremy Moore]

14x17 Gum over palladium print from a digital negative made from a wet plate collodion original:

Gum geek question, Kerik: what color mix is that?

It must be almost overwhelming in person at that size. Very cool.

[Kerik Kouklis]

Thanks, Jim. Jeremy it's mix: burnt umber, van dyke brown, indian yellow, and a touch of green gold and perylene maroon. One coat. Here's another:

http://www.kerik.com/dani (2).jpg

[Andrew ren]

Thanks, Jim. Jeremy it's mix: burnt umber, van dyke brown, indian yellow, and a touch of green gold and perylene maroon. One coat. Here's another:

http://www.kerik.com/dani (2).jpg

Love it!

[Dave Aharonian]

Amazing stuff Kerik!!

[Vaughn]

A couple of recent carbon prints, but I need to live with them for awhile -- and perhaps rephotograph the vertical for a little better composition the next time I go to Yosemite (picky picky picky!)

Vaughn

PS...from 8x10 camera negatives

[venchka]

Vaughn,

I'll take your rejects.

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Vaughn, nice images both of them. It seems like you have changed the tonality some. Not as warm? Maybe we need to plan a trip?

Jim

[Vaughn]

Vaughn, nice images both of them. It seems like you have changed the tonality some. Not as warm? Maybe we need to plan a trip?

Jim

One color does not fit all...;) I drove thru your part of CA a couple days ago...I should have dropped by, but was at the end of a 7-week, 10,000 mile road trip and my three boys were anxious to get on home.

Now it is time to get the university's darkroom ready for the start of the new school year!

Vaughn

[Jim Fitzgerald]

One color does not fit all...;) I drove thru your part of CA a couple days ago...I should have dropped by, but was at the end of a 7-week, 10,000 mile road trip and my three boys were anxious to get on home.

Now it is time to get the university's darkroom ready for the start of the new school year!

Vaughn

I knew you were on the road and I understand the desire to get home. Hope to get together at some point later in the year and hear all about the trip.

Jim

[Vaughn]

My first (and only so far) salt print...

Mission Lions
5x7 camera negative

[Don7x17]

My first (and only so far) salt print...

Mission Lions
5x7 camera negative

Nice image of the White Dove of the Desert. Did you get down to Tumacacori? These two are the northernmost of the Kino Missions. there are another 9 down in Sonora, some in excellent shape, some in ruins. A nice swing down south crossing at Nogales and come out at Yuma...Used to be you could pay the keepers at several a $20 note and get access to the roof - I've made some interesting images from the top of two of them. Those days are past now - they won't do it.

[Vaughn]

HelloDon,

I did get down to Tumacacori. Missions are not really my "thing", but it was interesting to work with the two of them. I liked being able to get on the hilltop above the San Xavier del Bac Mission and photographing it in its environment. The lions were fun to work with.

I did wander around -- saw the "classic" AA angle from the back and photographed from the ground level in the front (not a bad image, but a bit generic).

Vaughn

[PViapiano]

Vaughn...that's the del Bac mission in the salt print, right?

I have a toned silver print from April of this year here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/viapiano/3471088315/

Been thinking of printing this one in platinum...

[Don7x17]

Vaughn...that's the del Bac mission in the salt print, right?

I have a toned silver print from April of this year here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/viapiano/3471088315/

Been thinking of printing this one in platinum...

San Xavier del Bac, also known as White Dove of the Desert...

[Vaughn]

Vaughn...that's the del Bac mission in the salt print, right?

I have a toned silver print from April of this year here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/viapiano/3471088315/

Been thinking of printing this one in platinum...

Nice image! It probably is just the reproduction on the computer screen, but it seems to be printed a little heavy -- that desert light just seems to be a bit, well, lighter than I am seeing in your image. Perhaps what it does need is to be printed in platinum -- it will be a nice image to work with! You have a couple (very good) palladium images on the site (Grand Canyon, and perhaps Joshua Tree) that do have the feel of the desert light to them.

Vaughn

[Vaughn]

Alders, Houda Point
Humboldt County, CA
8x10 Platinum/palladium print

Image from a poorly scanned print

[monkeymon]

thats very good

[PViapiano]

Nice image! It probably is just the reproduction on the computer screen, but it seems to be printed a little heavy -- that desert light just seems to be a bit, well, lighter than I am seeing in your image. Perhaps what it does need is to be printed in platinum -- it will be a nice image to work with! You have a couple (very good) palladium images on the site (Grand Canyon, and perhaps Joshua Tree) that do have the feel of the desert light to them.

Vaughn

Vaughn...

Yes, I printed it a bit heavy on purpose...I felt it was too sunny/contrasty to make a literal image. I really dislike photographing in mid-day sunlight...

[Vaughn]

thats very good

Thanks! I was in the same area yesterday -- getting my 3 12-yr old boys out the house and onto the beach. Saw several possible images, not too dissimilar to the alders on Houda Point. Things are a bit crazy right now, but I'll have to hail the 8x10 down there to the beach soon! I did snap a couple with my tiny camera (Rolleiflex) there yesterday as the heavy fog was coming in.

Vaughn

PV -- it is your image...you know best. Your work is very good.

[Kerik Kouklis]

Two more 14"x17" collodion/gum/platinum prints:

http://kerik.com/gum_collodion/images/tree.jpg

http://kerik.com/gum_collodion/images/lastleap.jpg

[Steve M Hostetter]

Kerik,, really incredible

[Vaughn]

Kerik,, really incredible

Agreed!!!

[PViapiano]

Beautiful, Kerik...!

[ugodap]

(i hope it fits here)
After several months reading about it I have finally made some real steps in learning Wet collodion proces. This is a first plate that I made at Mr. Quinn Jacobson workshop in Germany.

Best regards,
Ugo.

[Emil Schildt]

(i hope it fits here)
After several months reading about it I have finally made some real steps in learning Wet collodion proces. This is a first plate that I made at Mr. Quinn Jacobson workshop in Germany.

Best regards,
Ugo.

You're MY student!! DON*T go and learn techniques I can't do....

It's not fair!!

(But the result is great, he added whispering....)

[Emil Schildt]

Two more 14"x17" collodion/gum/platinum prints:

http://kerik.com/gum_collodion/images/tree.jpg

http://kerik.com/gum_collodion/images/lastleap.jpg

Kerik: I am in awe. The deer is SO beauiful, it hurts!

I am amazed but your use of several different techniques to get the final image..

It's like a modern palimsest (sp?). except that the original (first) technique wasn't erased before the next ones..

masterful!

[Kerik Kouklis]

Thank you all for the kind words. In the interest of full disclosure, these scans are actually from 8x10 prints as I'm making these prints in both sizes (8x10 and 14x17) thanks to the ease of digital negatives and QTR. The smaller prints are of course easier to scan.

Emil - combining my three main processes to make these is very satisfying to me. I've been into alternative processes for 20 years and these are the culmination of what I've learned and what I do. And now that digital negatives have matured to what they are today, making these prints is a breeze.

For anyone in the San Francisco Bay Area, I will be giving a brief talk about my work and methods "A Tri-Century Photographic Approach" at the f/295 Seminar on 21st Century Photography in San Francisco on August 29. There is an interesting lineup of speakers and it's free, but seating is limited so you have to register ahead of time. http://www.f295.org/site/

[Kirk Keyes]

(i hope it fits here)
After several months reading about it I have finally made some real steps in learning Wet collodion proces. This is a first plate that I made at Mr. Quinn Jacobson workshop in Germany.

Best regards,
Ugo.

I love that photo. It reminds me of a séance from the 1920s or so.

[Kirk Keyes]

Kerik - how did you get the photo of the deer? It's quite cool.

[Kerik Kouklis]

It's a fawn that fell into our pool and drowned. We found it then next day - well my wife found it first and said "Kerik you need to come get something out of the pool!" When I saw it, I said "Yeah, OK, but I need to do something first...."

[Kirk Keyes]

I figured there was a story exactly like that!

[D. Bryant]

Thank you all for the kind words. In the interest of full disclosure, these scans are actually from 8x10 prints as I'm making these prints in both sizes (8x10 and 14x17) thanks to the ease of digital negatives and QTR. The smaller prints are of course easier to scan.

Emil - combining my three main processes to make these is very satisfying to me. I've been into alternative processes for 20 years and these are the culmination of what I've learned and what I do. And now that digital negatives have matured to what they are today, making these prints is a breeze.

For anyone in the San Francisco Bay Area, I will be giving a brief talk about my work and methods "A Tri-Century Photographic Approach" at the f/295 Seminar on 21st Century Photography in San Francisco on August 29. There is an interesting lineup of speakers and it's free, but seating is limited so you have to register ahead of time. http://www.f295.org/site/

FWIW, to those of you that can make it to the F/295 do so. I've been fortunate to see Kerik's gum and gum over palladium work up close and personal and they are some of the best I've yet to see. Extremely smooth gum work.

You guys on the West Coast seem to get all the gravy. :)

Don Bryant

[Paul Metcalf]

Excellent printing techniques all around aside, to me this thread includes some of the most compelling compositions I've seen, simplistic in every detail yet elegant in completeness and vision. I would have to guess from all of these postings that the alternative print look, by whatever technique, drives this vision of simplistic elegance in the photographer's mind's eye so much more than straight B&W or color photography. I haven't worked in enough of these areas to experience this myself to any great extent, hopefully someday I will. To me this is perfection in art.

[Vaughn]

Oaks, Yosemite National Park, 2008
Scanned 8x10 Carbon Print

[ugodap]

You're MY student!! DON*T go and learn techniques I can't do....

It's not fair!!

(But the result is great, he added whispering....)

(offtopic)

Thank you for your compliment. I might have learned the basics of the process at the workshop, but as far as photography and art - I had a privilege to learn from a Master:).

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Oaks, Yosemite National Park, 2008
Scanned 8x10 Carbon Print

Vaughn, nice one. The oaks really shine when you print them in carbon.


Jim

[R Mann]

Platinum /Na2 print - took my first workshop Pt/Pd printing this summer and this is the first print I have done with my own setup. I really like the look of this type of print. The negative was a little soft due to a slow shutter speed, but I think softness works with Pt/Pd printing. I will need to keep working at getting a "good" negative, this one lost some shadow detail and the highlights were too dense.

[Emil Schildt]

Platinum /Na2 print - took my first workshop Pt/Pd printing this summer and this is the first print I have done with my own setup. I really like the look of this type of print. The negative was a little soft due to a slow shutter speed, but I think softness works with Pt/Pd printing. I will need to keep working at getting a "good" negative, this one lost some shadow detail and the highlights were too dense.

I think it is a beautiful, soft picture! no pretences - just a "plain" portrait - hard to do!

My next isn't that "plain"...
An old negative, now made as bromoil - several layers of paint.
I have always disliked the images of cell phones, but at the same time I love to use them in my images...

here is my "icon"..

http://www.phosee.dk/pictures/00000123/469-ikon.jpg

[ImSoNegative]

Here are a couple of van dyke prints, shot with a burke and james 8x10 field

[ImSoNegative]

in the second one i was going for the old old look : ))

[Jim collum]

Some more from the Modern Archeology series
Platinum over Pigment prints
Valve #!
http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/scan_1_1pt13.jpg


Valve #2
http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/scan_1_1pt17.jpg


Blue Tarp
http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/scan_1_1pt10.jpg

Air Blower, 7-2,7-1
http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/scan_1_1pt11.jpg

[Emil Schildt]

"Modern Archeology " - how brilliant.

They sing!!

[Jim collum]

"Modern Archeology " - how brilliant.

They sing!!

thank you for the words.. coming from you they mean a lot

some more from the same series

High Noise Area
http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/scan_1_1pt7.jpg


Turn
http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/scan_1_1pt5.jpg


Red Lamp Post
http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/scan_1_1pt4.jpg


Pump 7-2
http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/scan_1_1pt2.jpg

[sly]

Jim, your work is so lovely I feel inadequate to post after you.

This is a gum over cyanotype - taken with Korona 8x10, Schneider 240 lens, FP4+ printed on Fabriano Artistico

[PViapiano]

Sly, I love that one...beautiful!

[Vaughn]

Jim, great collection of work you have shown us! A great way to work in some color and tone into the images!

Well done, sly!

[Jim collum]

Jim, your work is so lovely I feel inadequate to post after you.

This is a gum over cyanotype - taken with Korona 8x10, Schneider 240 lens, FP4+ printed on Fabriano Artistico

No need to feel inadequate.. that image is gorgeous.

[Jim collum]

more from the Modern Archeology series


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/scan_1_1pt24.jpg


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/scan_1_1pt21.jpg


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/scan_1_1pt23.jpg


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/angkor_taprom1.jpg

[mandoman7]

You're on to something with this series, Jim. Its a poignant blend of the old and new. I imagine the right gallery would love to present these.

[belle]

I dove into wet plate collodion today. Here's my first portrait.

[Vaughn]

Well done, belle! Well done!

[Jeremy Moore]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2521/3749549232_0f157007a7.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2515/3749549754_6eca9e88fa.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2450/3749550214_55b68c96f4.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2486/3748762173_883d49ebc8.jpg

All are 12"x15" palladium prints from 4"x5" originals.

[Jim collum]

*very* nice.. my favorite of these 4 is #3




All are 12"x15" palladium prints from 4"x5" originals.

[Emil Schildt]

I am unsure, whether this is ok as an alternative technique..

Longish exposure - made with liquid emulsion on heavy paper, then toned exclusively using very, very strong coffee... (it took almost a week to tone this - layer on top of layer).

The best smelling image, I have ever made!! :D

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/1569472-lg.jpg

[Jim collum]

I am unsure, whether this is ok as an alternative technique..

Longish exposure - made with liquid emulsion on heavy paper, then toned exclusively using very, very strong coffee... (it took almost a week to tone this - layer on top of layer).

The best smelling image, I have ever made!! :D

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/1569472-lg.jpg

fantastic!!!!

[belle]

Shot with 8x10 Deardorff, Dallmeyer 3B Petzval portrait lens, with Polaroid 803.

[Kirk Gittings]

Great work as always Jim.

[belle]

One more with the same setup and a little movement.

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Well, here is another carbon transfer print that I managed to get a nice print done the other day. The negative was very thin and I was not surprised by the great depth of tone I was able to hold even with a less than optimum negative.

Jim

[nelsonfotodotcom]

I salute you!




http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2638/3732427145_f2c8786936_b.jpg

[Emil Schildt]

this is an image of Kala, made with liquid emulsion on hard burned stoneware clay.
After the image was printed, I manipulated the emulsion with hot water, and toned it.

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/2059721-lg.jpg

[Robert Hughes]

this is an image of Kala, made with liquid emulsion on hard burned stoneware clay.
After the image was printed, I manipulated the emulsion with hot water, and toned it.

Ooh, pretty! Please tell us more!

[studioQ]

http://www.studioq.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/aron-gothenburg.jpg

This is a Whole Plate Ambrotype (Wet Plate Collodion) - I made this plate in Sweden last week - I call it, "The Nordic Man".

[nelsonfotodotcom]

StudioQ - Wonderful shot.

[Emil Schildt]

"Robochick"

Model first paintet with black ink.:rolleyes:
then the image was painted with light.

this version is a photopolymer gravure.

http://www.phosee.dk/pictures/00000139/606-robochick.jpg

[jb7]

Favourite thread ever...

[cjbroadbent]

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_OR3U2BmIDuk/StcuqJWSM_I/AAAAAAAACI0/Fu7DX3TB22Y/s800/topArgy.jpg
Aryrotype. Cheating. Re-shot on 8x10 TMY from an HDR'd print. (Re Andrew' thread 'How to improve the dark details')

[D. Bryant]

Aryrotype. Cheating. Re-shot on 8x10 TMY from an HDR'd print. (Re Andrew' thread 'How to improve the dark details')

Chris,

I love these. What paper are you using?

Don Bryant

[cjbroadbent]

Arches Cotton. Paper is THE problem with Argyrotype. Most people give it a try and give up because thy can't find the right paper to make it stick. Read Mike Ware.

[PViapiano]

Christopher...that's beautiful. Cheat all you want ;-)

So, Arches cotton rag watercolor paper? That's probably the best argyrotype I've seen...is it toned at all?

[cjbroadbent]

Washed in 'distilled' water - very weak selenium tone (can't afford gold) for 30 secs - weak fix - long wash. I avoid tap water; the chlorine gives a muddy, faded look.
(left out the G in argyrotype - too late to edit)

[Vaughn]

Chilnualna Creek from Bridge
Wawona, Yosemite National Park

Platinum/palladium print
from an 8x10 camera negative

[PViapiano]

Nice, Vaughn...

[Rodney Polden]

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/2059721-lg.jpg

Several gorgeous images here recently, gandolfi. Really lovely and uplifting work. Thank you to all the members who've contributed to this excellent thread.

[Emil Schildt]

Here are two examples of photopolymer gravure's.

the first is made using a scratched positive.
The second is made the same way, but I have also experimented a little with the exposure time when making the print plate (slightly underexposed, which can give interesting "faliures" on the plate.
(final coffee toning was added..)

http://www.phosee.dk/pictures/00000140/356-fotopolymer_800x600.jpg


http://www.phosee.dk/pictures/00000140/357-fotopolymer-2_800x600.jpg

[Andrew ren]

Aryrotype. Cheating. Re-shot on 8x10 TMY from an HDR'd print. (Re Andrew' thread 'How to improve the dark details')

Chris, this is nice!

Andrew

[Patrick Dixon]

I am unsure, whether this is ok as an alternative technique..

Longish exposure - made with liquid emulsion on heavy paper, then toned exclusively using very, very strong coffee... (it took almost a week to tone this - layer on top of layer).

The best smelling image, I have ever made!! :D

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/1569472-lg.jpg

Gandofi, your pictures are stunning - but this is even better ...

[Dave Aharonian]

I've been watching this thread with great envy as I haven't done any printing in far too long. That has finally ended and here are a couple of new Palladium prints. Made with digital negs. from 5x7 film.

[Jim Cole]

Dave,

One of the best nudes I've seen in a while. Very nice.

[dss1234]

Dave, your images are so stunning,wow!

[Rodney Polden]

Lovely work, Dave. I particularly like your composition and framing in the view across to the Olympics. I bet the original prints of both are magical in palladium.

[Emil Schildt]

just trying to keep this thread alive....

flowers, painted with light - bromoil version.

http://www.emilschildt.com/BROM/blomster.jpg

[Michael Wynd]

Dave, I normally much prefer studio nudes to outdoor ones, but yours are definitely a cut above any others I've seen. Great stuff.
Mike

[Vaughn]

A recent carbon print...

Boys, Fern Canyon, 2009
Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park

f22 at 25 seconds

8x10, Fuji W 300/5.6

FP4+ in Ilford Universal PQ Developer

Image from a scanned 8x10 carbon print.

[soeren]

just trying to keep this thread alive....

flowers, painted with light - bromoil version.

http://www.emilschildt.com/BROM/blomster.jpg

Wauv
Best regards

[Jim Fitzgerald]

A recent carbon print...

Boys, Fern Canyon, 2009
Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park

f22 at 25 seconds

8x10, Fuji W 300/5.6

FP4+ in Ilford Universal PQ Developer

Image from a scanned 8x10 carbon print.

Vaughn, they keep getting bigger and bigger in your images. Nice location and one I did not get to on my last trip up your way. Need to get back up there.

Jim

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Well, this is my first Platinum/Palladium print. I kind of just started reading and had the materials and gave it a go. I think it came out okay?

Jim

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Here is another one. The second print I did. I realize the compositional issues with the set up but I was rushed with the model. Still I love the tones from the Pl/Pt. process. This is just a straight scan.

Jim

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Here is my last one. Glass factory off of Highway 395.

Jim

[Vaughn]

Great start with pt/pd, Jim! What paper are you using?

Vaughn

[sanking]

Great start with pt/pd, Jim! What paper are you using?

Vaughn

Give it up, Jim! Every time you make a pt/pd print you will be reminded how much more interesting it would look if you had made it in carbon transfer.

Sandy

[Vaughn]

Give it up, Jim! Every time you make a pt/pd print you will be reminded how much more interesting it would look if you had made it in carbon transfer.

Sandy

And reminded again everytime you bring out the heavy plastic to buy some more precious metals!

Which reminds me, I need to buy some platinum supplies (can't let that pt and pd just sit there in my cupboard!)

Vaughn

[Jeremy Moore]

Give it up, Jim! Every time you make a pt/pd print you will be reminded how much more interesting it would look if you had made it in carbon transfer.

Sandy

so misleading, sandy, he'll start to want the luscious depth of gum over the pt/pd :D

link to non-LF gum over palladium print (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremymoore/4035661644/)

[timbo10ca]

Here's one of my early (i.e last year) Ziatypes. FP4 in Pyrocat HD on Arches Platine

[timbo10ca]

Here's one of my latest Ziatypes (a month ago). Trying to improve highlight separation and get nice deep blacks. FP4+ in ABC Pyro on Crane's Kid Finish white.

[Tony Karnezis]

Here's one of my latest Ziatypes (a month ago). Trying to improve highlight separation and get nice deep blacks. FP4+ in ABC Pyro on Crane's Kid Finish white.

Timbo, this scene looks familiar. Is it Bucks County, PA?

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Great start with pt/pd, Jim! What paper are you using?

Vaughn

Vaughn and Sandy. I am a dedicated carbon printer! I was over at my friend Matt Blais house and he was going to do some Pt/Pd prints and I brought some of my old Azo to do some proofs of negatives from my recent trip. We never got to the Azo, which has a beautiful tonality, it is 1976.

We used the COT 320 paper and it is nice but since I am a cheap bastard and still donating to my 9 year college fund I can not see this going to far. I like what you can do with the process and I am always open to trying other things and so I did. But I was left wondering what will this look like in carbon?

I am trying to prefect my process for getting cleaner highlights in my carbon work so I can try more figure and portrait work. I think the Pt/Pd lends itself nicely to this process but again I keep wondering what it will look like in carbon. I'm not concerned with relief in the portrait and figure images but the unique tonality I can get in blending my own pigment ratios for the final tone in this work. I have a long way to go but it was nice to do a different process.

It is not in the cards for me from a financial aspect right now and may never be. I keep getting told that I am limiting myself by using only one print process. I know I can get everything that I need out of carbon and eventually I will get there.

Jim

[Jeremy Moore]

I keep getting told that I am limiting myself by using only one print process.
Jim

Ignore those people, make images as you see fit. Additionally, those people will still be dilettantes while you master a process and learn to make it sing.

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Ignore those people, make images as you see fit. Additionally, those people will still be dilettantes while you master a process and learn to make it sing.

Jeremy, thank you. I respect and enjoy all of my friends work and the processes that they use. I have found that for my work carbon transfer is it for me. Maybe this will change at some point in time but I knew I found my niche when I saw my first carbon print not long ago. Once I master the process to my satisfaction I may try something else. I honestly do not see that happening.

Jim

[timbo10ca]

Timbo, this scene looks familiar. Is it Bucks County, PA?

It sure is. Quite a tangle of bush to get to that vantage point though! And the neg was developed in Michael and Paula's darkroom. That's why it was in ABC... :)

[PViapiano]

Jeremy, thank you. I respect and enjoy all of my friends work and the processes that they use. I have found that for my work carbon transfer is it for me. Maybe this will change at some point in time but I knew I found my niche when I saw my first carbon print not long ago. Once I master the process to my satisfaction I may try something else. I honestly do not see that happening.

Jim

Jim,

I've been experimenting with gum lately, a lot of fun and addicting, along with the extreme frustration that goes with dichromated colloids ;-)

I read Sandy's carbon how-to article last night and it does pique my interest. Your prints at the Riverside show were amazing, but I need another process like I need a hole in the head...jack of all trades...hmmm.

But it is fun to play with the chemistry set!

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Jim,

I've been experimenting with gum lately, a lot of fun and addicting, along with the extreme frustration that goes with dichromated colloids ;-)

I read Sandy's carbon how-to article last night and it does pique my interest. Your prints at the Riverside show were amazing, but I need another process like I need a hole in the head...jack of all trades...hmmm.

But it is fun to play with the chemistry set!

Paul, that's great that you are finding the time to experiment. I think it is a good idea and you should run with it until you satisfy your interest.

I remember when my son's were little and my wife and I were home schooling them we would always let them run with a subject that interested them. When their curiosity was satisfied we moved on. I have only touched the surface of carbon transfer printing and I NEED to do more. Will I ever satisfy my curiosity? I don't think so. I'm going to follow my own advice and continue to explore the process.

I'm glad you liked my prints at the show. Thanks again for coming out.

Jim

[Jeremy Moore]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2767/4069405100_25ac0075e9_b.jpg

Looking Out From Hoover Dam, 2009. 8" x 10" gum over pt/pd. 4x5 original.

[venchka]

Jeremy,

Most interesting. Besides being a great photo, the new bridge wasn't in the aerial shots I saw just last night on the Travel Channel. You will have to back periodically and document the progress of the bridge.

[Jeremy Moore]

Jeremy,

Most interesting. Besides being a great photo, the new bridge wasn't in the aerial shots I saw just last night on the Travel Channel. You will have to back periodically and document the progress of the bridge.

Wayne, already have plans :cool:

[venchka]

Looking forward to the photos.

[Craig Griffiths]

My humble contribution is attached. I have just gotten back into printing again after setting up a uv light source, and I am still learning the ropes. Vandyke and Cyanotype first and maybe at some stage platinum/palladium or liquid emulsion. Most of the images I am printing are 8x20's so unfortunately I cant scan them. Attached is a scan of an 8x10 vandyke. As I said I have lots to learn, but it is fun learning

[tenderobject]

i'm fairly new to LF and altprinting etc.. heh. trying to learn fast!

my half or not successful vandyke.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2706/4130041293_35c54a121d.jpg

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Here is a recent shot from a trip up highway 1 in California. Crystal Cascade. 8x10 carbon transfer. Doesn't show to well here but it is a nice one.

Jim

[Math]

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7991/albumen.jpg
Well, there it is. The first albumen glass negative I ever made. :) Still a long way to actually learn how to do it completely on my own, but it's a good start. Scan is from a straight and simple print. Not knowledgeable to make my own albumen printing paper yet!

[eddie]

okay. another fun day of lith printing. i took a wet plate collodion glass plate image and printed a lith print. i then selenium toned the print. funs stuff. 8x10 neg.

[Joe O'Hara]

i'm fairly new to LF and altprinting etc.. heh. trying to learn fast!

my half or not successful vandyke.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2706/4130041293_35c54a121d.jpg

That is somehow touching in a strange way. I'll be looking for more.

What an interesting thread.

[ImSoNegative]

here are a couple of van dykes, burke and james 8x10, paper negative, iso 6

[eddie]

here are a couple of van dykes, burke and james 8x10, paper negative, iso 6

VDB paper negs! awesome! pretty "fast" ISO as well.

[Doug Howk]

A local church. Neg 8X10 FP-4 printed on COT 320 with straight Palladium. Also masked a couple of areas to control contrast.

[Emil Schildt]

I was wondering, whether this thread shouldn't be moved to the new forum about image sharing and discussion?

While I wait, this is a tired angel, made as bromoil.

http://www.phosee.dk/pictures/00000158/509-traet-engel_800x600.jpg

[csant]

Albumen print, gold toned. 8x10, Verito.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4072/4286173072_5468650cc0.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4286173072/)

Bigger image at Flickr.

[Jim collum]

I was wondering, whether this thread shouldn't be moved to the new forum about image sharing and discussion?

While I wait, this is a tired angel, made as bromoil.

http://www.phosee.dk/pictures/00000158/509-traet-engel_800x600.jpg

gorgeous again!

[Pawlowski6132]

OK, so...I skipped over the controversy and now have a question, where can one learn - step by step - how to crate some of these great images?

[Alex Wei]

beautiful images, everyone, Gandolfi, I will make it a first stop to see you when I to to Denmark.

[Emil Schildt]

beautiful images, everyone, Gandolfi, I will make it a first stop to see you when I to to Denmark.

you shall be welcome!

(But if it shall be your "first stop", then you might consider coming from Norway or Sweden..... not copenhagen...;) )

[Kirk Gittings]

I was wondering, whether this thread shouldn't be moved to the new forum about image sharing and discussion?



YES! As these older threads pop up we are moving them all. Thanks.

[D. Bryant]

OK, so...I skipped over the controversy and now have a question, where can one learn - step by step - how to crate some of these great images?

Since no one has replied to your question I thought I might. In leiu of attanding a workshop or workshops presented by practitioners who are truely knowledgeble I would reccomend that you purchase Christopher James 2nd edition of 'The Book of Alternative Processes'. The book is fairly comprehensive covering many different alt. processes displayed in this thread. The book isn't perfect, there are some mistakes in the book but none that I noticed are fatal.

Here is James' web link:

http://www.christopherjames-studio.com/index.html

There are other books to choose from but this one will get you started.

Good luck,

Don Bryant

[Alex Wei]

shot with wolly soft focus lens. printed on fotospeed lith paper then toned in selenium.
http://www.pbase.com/highpeak/image/121294359.jpg

[sly]

Very nice!

[Laura_Campbell]

Polymer plate photogravure.

Image: Agfa 8x10, Schneider 420/240, Efke negative, and interpositive.
Print: Charbonnel ink on Fabriano Rosaspina, Takach etching press.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4296911376_b650d6d5ef.jpg

[D. Bryant]

Polymer plate photogravure.

Image: Agfa 8x10, Schneider 420/240, Efke negative, and interpositive.
Print: Charbonnel ink on Fabriano Rosaspina, Takach etching press.


Very, very nice Laura!

Don Bryant

[Emil Schildt]

Found an old Cyanotype...

http://static.phosee.dk/pictures/00000011/583-kejserens-nye-klaeder-2_800x600.jpg

[Colin Graham]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/4298160164_50cdd52e72.jpg

Learning some new tricks, 4 color gum. Forgive the campy image, but I need some new props.

[Laura_Campbell]

Thanks Don!

[unkgowa]

http://kerik.com/gum_collodion/images/lastleap.jpg

Incredible.

[PViapiano]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/4298160164_50cdd52e72.jpg

Learning some new tricks, 4 color gum. Forgive the campy image, but I need some new props.

Colin, this is great...nice darks, etc...

Beware, gum is addictive. I've been focusing on it almost exclusively since last May.

[kev curry]

...once again, another fabulous piece of art gandolfi!

[Colin Graham]

Beware, gum is addictive.

Heh, I know, I can hardly sleep! Most fun I've had printing in years, even the screwups and hacks are a blast.

[csant]

Another albumen print, gold toned. 8x10, Verito.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2781/4300439151_107714ed14.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4300439151/)

[Robert Hughes]

Another albumen print, gold toned. 8x10, Verito.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2781/4300439151_107714ed14.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4300439151/)
What IS that thing? Some sort of teapot/bong/sex toy? :eek:

[csant]

What IS that thing? Some sort of teapot/bong/sex toy? :eek:

It's some laboratory glassware - but what exactly this bottle is, I'd not be able to tell you.

[Vaughn]

It is similar to what I have seen used for pouring plates and carbon tissue -- once filled, it would allow one to pour some of the liquid out without getting any of the stuff (or air bubbles/foam) that is floating on the surface onto, or into, whatever you were pouring.

[p1ot3]

here is the first carbon transfer from 5x7 negative (my first photo in LF! wow!) :) i still have air bubbles problem and i do not know solution yet.

http://p1ot3.eu/unplugged/albums/carbon_transfer/Scan564.sized.jpg

[Emil Schildt]

here is the first carbon transfer from 5x7 negative (my first photo in LF! wow!) :) i still have air bubbles problem and i do not know solution yet.

http://p1ot3.eu/unplugged/albums/carbon_transfer/Scan564.sized.jpg

your picture doesn't show...

[Jim Fitzgerald]

I agree with Emil. I am a carbon printer. Let me know if I can be of any help. Your highlights look clean. Did you make your tissue or is this some B&S tissue? Bubbles can come from the mating process but I am having a hard time seeing them in this image.

Jim

[Jim Graves]

http://home.comcast.net/~mary.j.graves/Soft%20Focus%20Carbon%20web%20copy%202.jpg

Carbon whole plate taken with a no-name meniscus brass lens

[Jim Fitzgerald]

http://home.comcast.net/~mary.j.graves/Soft%20Focus%20Carbon%20web%20copy%202.jpg

Carbon whole plate taken with a no-name meniscus brass lens

Jim, nice! Make sure to bring some neg's next month.

Jim

[Vaughn]

Scanned 5x7 Carbon print

Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park, CA

Raja 4x5/5x7, Computar 210/6.3

-- dang...a little dark and contrasty -- I'll fix it later

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Scanned 5x7 Carbon print

Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park, CA

Raja 4x5/5x7, Computar 210/6.3

-- dang...a little dark and contrasty -- I'll fix it later

Vaughn, I know what the dark ares look like in this image. Man I need to get back up your way! Love the image.

Jim

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Here is a carbon print from a recent trip up as far as we could go on the Sherman Pass Road. 8x10 Seneca with my Walnut barreled 14" Commercial Ektar shot on Green sensitive X-ray film.

Jim

[sly]

Jim, I always enjoy your work. Would love to see a carbon print in the flesh.

"Life is Just a Chair Full of Bowlies"

Fooling around on the weekend, avoiding housework and playing with the 8x10.
This is a Gum (one layer sepia) over platinum/palladium.

[PViapiano]

Beautiful, sly!

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Sly, thank you. I love the look of the print you posted. Beautiful tonalities. So many different processes to try and not enough time. I decided to stick with carbon transfer. I think it gives one the most possibilities for print tones. Also there is a bonus of some nice 3-D relief. Big thing this 3-D stuff in the movies and such. Funny how they figured this out in 1864!

Jim

[p1ot3]

I agree with Emil. I am a carbon printer. Let me know if I can be of any help. Your highlights look clean. Did you make your tissue or is this some B&S tissue? Bubbles can come from the mating process but I am having a hard time seeing them in this image.

Jim

hi Jim; thanks for suggestion about mating. it is better now, but, as i am really beginner, there is no one problem to solve... not bad, i like to learn ;) i make my own gelatin solution and tissue. so, a lot of place for improvement. :)

sorry for being a little OT, i wanted to thank and do not have anything new to show (working on it :) )

p.

[Vaughn]

hi Jim; thanks for suggestion about mating. it is better now, but, as i am really beginner, there is no one problem to solve... not bad, i like to learn ;) i make my own gelatin solution and tissue. so, a lot of place for improvement. :)

sorry for being a little OT, i wanted to thank and do not have anything new to show (working on it :) )

p.

Hello! If would like a pdf copy of my basic carbon printing manual (basic, because it is just the way I make the tissue and the way I teach it to folks in my workshops), I would be happy to share it. Just email me at vgh7001@humboldt.edu and I'll send it to you.

Vaughn

[Laura_Campbell]

Agfa 8x10, Schneider 420/240, Efke negative and interpositive in HC110, Charbonnel ink, Fabriano Rosaspina, KM-43 plate, Takach etching press. Polymer plate photogravure.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2789/4334910323_9dd7ba7ac5_o.jpg

[Emil Schildt]

love photopolymer gravures.
Great one Laura

[Laura_Campbell]

Thank you!

[D. Bryant]

Thank you!

Another fine gravure! Wish I could be back in Taos!

Don Bryant

[Vaughn]

I posted (or thought I did) praise for Laura's image -- but it got lost in the ether. Excellent image. I very much like the two planes and how they interact (light and dark).

Vaughn

[p1ot3]

thanks for your help guys. :)
after few days and a lot of work:
http://p1ot3.eu/unplugged/albums/carbon_transfer/Scan566.sized.jpg

[Vaughn]

And well worth the patience and work. Congrats!

[tenderobject]

thanks for your help guys. :)
after few days and a lot of work:
http://p1ot3.eu/unplugged/albums/carbon_transfer/Scan566.sized.jpg

very beautiful... will check the web about carbon printing.. very interesting.

[tenderobject]

Hello! If would like a pdf copy of my basic carbon printing manual (basic, because it is just the way I make the tissue and the way I teach it to folks in my workshops), I would be happy to share it. Just email me at vgh7001@humboldt.edu and I'll send it to you.

Vaughn

hi vaughn, im very much interested. if its ok. :) let me know then i'll email you. thanks!

[Vaughn]

Of course -- email me!

Check out: http://bostick-sullivan.invisionzone.com/

There is also a Yahoo group/forum headed by Sandy King (who I would call one of the head people in the field of carbon printing), but I will have to get back to you about a link to it.

Vaughn

[tenderobject]

Of course -- email me!

Check out: http://bostick-sullivan.invisionzone.com/

There is also a Yahoo group/forum headed by Sandy King (who I would call one of the head people in the field of carbon printing), but I will have to get back to you about a link to it.

Vaughn


thanks vaughn for the links. i think the yahho groups link is at sandy king's signature. will try to join :)

will email you now.. thank you again!

[Laura_Campbell]

A recent one from the Pueblo. Agfa 8x10, Goerz 480mm, Efke negative and interpositive in HC110, Charbonnel ink on Fabriano Rosaspina, Takach etching press. Polymer plate photogravure.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2716/4345258366_47894cd0c1_o.jpg

[Vaughn]

Carbon print

Redwood Along Prairie Creek
Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park, CA

Zone VI 8x10, FujiW 300/5.6 With modified dark slide to make a 4x10 negative
TMax400, f45@10 seconds, with yellow filter
Ilford Universal PQ Developer 1:16 70F about 10 minutes, Jobo Drum

Scanned carbon print

[Vaughn]

I just put this image in the tree thread, but want to show it here also.

Redwood, Vine Maples, Fall 2009
Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park, CA

Zone VI 8x10, Fuji W 300/5.6
TMax400, f90 at 4 minutes, with yellow filter
Ilford Universal PQ Developer 1:16, 70F for about 10 minutes (lost track)

scanned carbon print

[adamc]

Hi.
I'm a beginner to alternative photographic techniques. I've been amazed at some of the images I've been seeing in this thread. :)

Here is my first somewhat successful VDB.

Adam

[Robert Hughes]

Here is my first somewhat successful VDB.

Congrats on that Lake Harriet Pavilion shot - very old timey. I've been shooting over there at night recently, but bailed out on taking my 8x10. Too much snow right now.

[adamc]

Thanks Robert.
I really enjoy shooting there, never done so at night - I bet it's nice.

[Jim Fitzgerald]

I just put this image in the tree thread, but want to show it here also.

Redwood, Vine Maples, Fall 2009
Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park, CA

Zone VI 8x10, Fuji W 300/5.6
TMax400, f90 at 4 minutes, with yellow filter
Ilford Universal PQ Developer 1:16, 70F for about 10 minutes (lost track)

scanned carbon print

Vaughn, awesome prints! Man I have to get back up there. There is so much depth in these images even on my screen. This is the type of imagery that got me hooked on carbon. Thanks for posting these. Now back to making tissue!

Jim

[Vaughn]

Thanks, Jim. We'll have to connect one of these days and look at each other's prints.

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Thanks, Jim. We'll have to connect one of these days and look at each other's prints.

Vaughn, I'd love to get together and catch up. I need to see my son in San Francisco one of these days. It would be a good reason to drive a bit farther north to come and see you. Problem is I'd not want to leave!

Jim

[sly]

FP4+, D76 1+1, 8x10 Korona, Pt/Pd Na2 print on Cot 320

This wonderful woman was one of my favorite clients from last year, before, during and after the birth of her baby.

[p1ot3]

can we post blueprints? this was pretty winter day... in Georgia :)

p.

[bsimison]

Mescal (agave), Anza-Borrego Desert, California.

Palladium print on Arches Platine paper. Digital negative from 4x5 B&W negative.

http://www.brettsimison.com/external/Palladium_Agave_01.jpg

[csant]

One of my first gum prints…

Gum bichromate over cyanotype, four layers with one negative:
cyanotype, quinacridone magenta, cadmium yellow, burnt sienna.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2703/4412951309_0bfbed4a12.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4412951309/)


Some more info and bigger image over at Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4412951309/).

[csant]

And another one.

Gum bichromate over cyanotype, four layers with one negative:
cyanotype, quinacridone magenta, burnt sienna/cadmium yellow, lamp black.


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4416656660_a56530031f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4416656660/)

Some more info and bigger image over at Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4416656660/).

(P.S. who said you should not mix pigments when printing a layer? The sienna layer really wanted some yellow to it… or the yellow one needed some sienna, you choose… Guess purists will have a chill running down their back…)

[Vaughn]

Great work, Cladio.

I doubt the "purists" (whoever they are :) ) have a chill...a smile perhaps. It is always fun to see a process stretched. When one matches it up with a great image and the results can be wonderful.

Vaughn

[csant]

Thank you, Vaughn!

[sly]

Really like that one csant! I've mixed pigments on occasion. Never heard you weren't supposed to. Isn't that what painters do?

[Vaughn]

If one is attempting to produce fully corrected color with one's gum prints, mixing colors really throws a wildcard into the situation.

For example, check these 29"x40" gum prints... http://www.livick.com/archives/portraits/pg1.htm

Vaughn

[cdholden]

My first experience with getting black fingers!
Brother Eddie agreed that we needed to put on cowboy hats and enter the Studio Camera Corral. We got the lariat and lassoed the slowest one in the herd.
Many thanks to Eddie and Moe for their unrivaled hospitality and good conversation. A nice visit to NY indeed. I look forward to putting together a wet plate kit for more of this!
Chris

[csant]

Vaughn, Sly - thanks for the comments. I have never heard you should not mix them, but I also am not really aware of anybody doing it. So far I have not attempted any gum print with separations - when trying to produce a colour print with separations, it indeed adds yet another factor of uncertainty to the process. But when using just one negative, printed in several layers, I wonder why one shouldn't try some mixing.

Then again, when printing with separations, you might either look for a long time to find "your" right pigment - or you could try mixing your colour, couldn't you? Of course it adds yet another layer of complexity, but you might be more likely to get the tonality you are looking for… I'll let you know when I get there!

[dwross]

Claudio,
Beautiful work. I think it's incredible the 'separation' you get from one negative. That, in itself, seems like a rewarding creative challenge. Thank you for sharing the idea and color details.

If or when you decide to try separation negatives, I can offer my set as a jumping off point for your own vision. Here is page 4 of my 6-plus article on gum printing http://www.thelightfarm.com/Map/Silvergum/SilvergumAdvanced/SilvergumPart4.htm

and my separation worksheets: http://www.thelightfarm.com/Map/Silvergum/SilvergumAdvanced/SilvergumLayerGuideList.htm.


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[Jim Fitzgerald]

A recent carbon transfer print. I guess I should post this in the still life's also? Shot this one on green x-ray film.

Jim

[p1ot3]

hi guys;

i have learned much from watching your pictures (got also great help); time to show some results. two of my recent carbon prints.

p.

[Vaughn]

Nice, P1ot3! Congrats!

How did you avoid a reversed image? I am guessing you did it in the enlargement of the negative rather than doing double transfer.

Vaughn

[p1ot3]

hi Vaughn;

Thanks. :) You are giving me homework again... ;) I did not reverse negatives nor make double transfer. I'm thinking about this as I'm going to use glass plate negatives. So far, both prints are made as simply transfer from 5x7 negative to (and this is my next success) arches HP paper.

p.

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Nice, P1ot3! Congrats!

How did you avoid a reversed image? I am guessing you did it in the enlargement of the negative rather than doing double transfer.

Vaughn

The same questions I was going to ask. Also, the clear highlights on the second image. Are you making your own tissue or buying the pre-made?

A bit off topic but still related to alternative printing and especially carbon transfer. I have found that in doing portraits using x-ray film one can soften the image just a bit if you print the negative what would be the wrong way for us carbon printers. I find the effect very pleasing. I have not tried it with regular film to see if I get the same results.

Jim

[GSX4]

Here's a wet plate image made yesterday using a newly made wet plate back for my Chamonix 45-N view camera It was my 3rd ever plate....

[p1ot3]

The same questions I was going to ask. Also, the clear highlights on the second image. Are you making your own tissue or buying the pre-made?
Jim

hi Jim;

i made my own tissue, with sumi ink and watercolort paint (not enough ink at home).

p.

[Vaughn]

hi Jim;

i made my own tissue, with sumi ink and watercolort paint (not enough ink at home).

p.

Not putting emulsion to emulsion does soften the image significantly -- and if done with glass plates, the softening will be even greater since the distance from one emulsion to the other will be greater due to the thickness of the glass. The light source does come into play also (less softening with a point light source than a diffuse light source) as does how tightly the two are held together (vacuum frames giving the greatest possibility of sharpness.)

[p1ot3]

just cyanotypes;
p.

[p1ot3]

i can not edit my posts, so i have deleted one of attachments from earlier post using control panel and add its carbon version in this new post.
p.

[evan clarke]

Gandolfi- my turn to be jealous. Gravures for me are THE process. Wish I could find a reasonable press and get started. What a fantastic image.

Hey Andrew, it's a 5x12. I haven't started enlarging negatives for carbon yet. But a 10x24 carbon could be pretty cool.

Yes, the press is the issue...EC

[csant]

Finally spring…

Gum bichromate over cyanotype, four layers with one negative:
cyanotype, lemon yellow deep, rose madder genuine, terre verte.


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/4496458436_029aa72347.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4496458436/)

Some more info and bigger image over at Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4496458436/).

[p1ot3]

new carbon.
as the result of... let's say, this rise wine is really strong...
i do have problem do scan it better.
p.

[eddie]

4x5 enlarged to 5x7. lith printed.

[eddie]

one more from my "new" spot. an old water wheel from a cement mine in rosendale ny.

4x5 enlarged to 8x10. lith printed on foma paper in ld20

[Vaughn]

new carbon.
as the result of... let's say, this rise wine is really strong...
i do have problem do scan it better.
p.

Very rich image...almost looks red-wine toned, too! ;)

Congrats!

Vaughn

[Steve M Hostetter]

eddie,,, nice shots there! :)

[Dave Aharonian]

Just got a new batch of chemistry. I've got a TON of printing to do! 6.5x9 Palladium print from 4x5 neg. Darlot lens.

[Emil Schildt]

Just got a new batch of chemistry. I've got a TON of printing to do! 6.5x9 Palladium print from 4x5 neg. Darlot lens.

If the others are as good as this one... then hurry up!

[csant]

A rose is a rose is a rose. Albumen…


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4545471311_204ba3c110.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4545471311/)

Some more info and larger image over at Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4545471311/).

[csant]

Glade. Gum bichromate…


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/4557473269_441c8cdfdd.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4557473269/)

Some more info and larger image over at Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4557473269/).

[csant]

Another bichromate, Venice, Palazzo Sanudo.


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4646636537_d138562a6e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4646636537/)

Some more info and larger image available over at Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csant/4646636537/).