Filters, lens shade or both?

[timbo10ca]

Obviously both is best, but I'm trying to figure out this problem on a budget. I have the Cokin P system for B&W filters, and bought Hitech grads for use with my 35mm system. I have only one LF lens- a 210mm Schneider Symmar that takes a 77mm filter ring (same as my 17-40 L Canon lens), but want to eventually add a Fuji 300c and 450c. I'm hoping the P filters will be wide enough to cover these lenses (my impression is that it's only a problem for wide lenses??) on both my 5x7 and if I eventually went to 8x10. I don't have a lens shade for my LF lens yet, and when using these filters on either camera system, I've never used a lens shade. I'm wondering how to get around this problem of using filters and a shade at the same time (short of finding the Cokin P Bellows, for a couple hundred bucks). If filters are on, is a shade even necessary? Because if not, I could just get a cheap rubber screw on lens shade for $10 when not using filters. I'd hate to buy the Cokin P bellows and find out later I need to move up in filter size for the longer lenses or larger format (I'd eventually probably want to add a 600mm if I actually got an 8x10 camera, and I'm not even sure what filter ring size would be available to fit in the P system).

Thanks,
Tim

[Marko]

It is the wide angle lenses that you need to worry about and the problem there is vignetting. You don't need to worry about long lenses as long as their filter thread is 82mm or smaller.

Lee Bellows Hood for Cokin P (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/133282-REG/LEE_Filters_PH84_Pro_Hood_for_Cokin.html) costs $59 over at B&H.

Cokin also makes modular lens hood (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/14358-REG/Cokin_CP255_Modular_Hood_for_P_.html) elements which can be combined for longer lenses.

I am using the latter and it works fine, but is clunky and has some limitations. You get what you pay for.

[timbo10ca]

It is the wide angle lenses that you need to worry about and the problem there is vignetting. You don't need to worry about long lenses as long as their filter thread is 82mm or smaller.

Lee Bellows Hood for Cokin P (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/133282-REG/LEE_Filters_PH84_Pro_Hood_for_Cokin.html) costs $59 over at B&H.

Cokin also makes modular lens hood (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/14358-REG/Cokin_CP255_Modular_Hood_for_P_.html) elements which can be combined for longer lenses.

I am using the latter and it works fine, but is clunky and has some limitations. You get what you pay for.

Thanks Marko- I wasn't aware of that Lee hood. Looks like it might work.

Tim