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Songyun
25-Apr-2009, 09:27
The lens chart on the front page is a very complete table, but it misses some information (weight of the following lens)
Grandgon N 200mm
Apo Ronar 240mm 300mm 360mm 480mm
Anyone knows these information?
I think I got the apo sironar w's weight 380g for 150mm
Also, does anyone have lens information of caltar-IIE 150 and 210.

Oren Grad
25-Apr-2009, 10:21
The following specifications, as provided by the Rodenstock distributor in Japan, are from the 1995 Nippon Camera Annual:

Apo-Ronar 240mm in Copal 1: 246 g
Apo-Ronar 300mm in Copal 1: 252 g
Apo-Ronar 360mm in Copal 3: 580 g
Apo-Ronar 480mm in Copal 3: 850 g

Grandagon-N 200mm in Copal 3: 2650 g

Unfortunately, the listing doesn't include the Geronars (Caltar II-E).

Songyun
25-Apr-2009, 12:06
The following specifications, as provided by the Rodenstock distributor in Japan, are from the 1995 Nippon Camera Annual:

Apo-Ronar 240mm in Copal 1: 246 g
Apo-Ronar 300mm in Copal 1: 252 g
Apo-Ronar 360mm in Copal 3: 580 g
Apo-Ronar 480mm in Copal 3: 850 g

Grandagon-N 200mm in Copal 3: 2650 g

Unfortunately, the listing doesn't include the Geronars (Caltar II-E).


Thanks Oren, I can fill in these information now.
:D

Arne Croell
25-Apr-2009, 12:21
Note that older Apo-Ronars had brass mounts whereas later ones used aluminum alloy. That accounts for some weight difference for the same lens. Off the top of my head, the change would have been sometime around the late 1980's. Orens numbers are the aluminum mount versions. As an example, the brass version of the 300mm Apo-Ronar is 60g heavier than the aluminum one.

Kirk Fry
26-Apr-2009, 20:45
I hate when the lense is way too heavy

Grandagon-N 200mm in Copal 3: 2650 g

That is about 5 pounds. Yikes.

Oren Grad
26-Apr-2009, 21:03
5.8 pounds, actually. Forklift material.

Songyun
26-Apr-2009, 23:05
Has anyone compare the grandagon 200 (2650g), SA 210 (3065g) and SSXL 210 (2002g) side by side?

boris
26-Apr-2009, 23:10
the super angulon 8/210 that i hat weighted 2,3 kg. with compur shutter. i think that just the latest mc super angulons were more than 3 kg.

Steve M Hostetter
28-Apr-2009, 12:23
I have owned the Schneider 210mm f8 super angulon and the 210mm f5.6 super symmar and the 210mm super symmar is the sharpest of those two lenses by a very noticable amount

Songyun
28-Apr-2009, 12:45
I have owned the Schneider 210mm f8 super angulon and the 210mm f5.6 super symmar and the 210mm super symmar is the sharpest of those two lenses by a very noticable amount

and yet 210 super symmar xl is the lightest of all three. Thanks to the new design and technology.
I remember back in college, one of my friend had a 28~200 zoom , it is so damn heavy that the mount on the camera were broken. 28~200 zoom lens now are much lighter.