please post your petzval shots

[sgelb]

cmon lets see them and the lenses that made them..
please also tell us what format, focal length etc.

[Bruce Schultz]

Dallmeyer 3B - 11.5 inches, f/5.6
5x7 wet-plate collodion on aluminum

[walter23]

Pretty damned good costuming and set props there, Bruce. Can't find a thing to tip me off that this is a re-enactment ('course I'm no historian).

Couple of shots from a Dallmeyer 5 1/2" projection petzval. picture of the lens, friction mounted into an oversized hole (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/walter2323/IMG_7008.jpg)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/walter2323/pileothembones.jpg

Crop of the one pictured further down:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/walter2323/david-portrait.jpg

I really should be composing with cropping in mind for these non close-up shots, but I'm just getting the hang of this lens. Would work very well with my 6x7 rollfilm holder as well.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/walter2323/Untitled-1-3.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/walter2323/ship.jpg

[walter23]

Couple more (swirly stuff in these ones):

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/walter2323/hyperspace-arbutus1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/walter2323/mrsalty.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/walter2323/the-organs-of-lucifer.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/walter2323/statue1.jpg

[walter23]

And every gimmick in the book with this one:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/walter2323/skeleton-mashedup.jpg

[Bruce Schultz]

That leaf shot is terrific. It gives me vertigo.
I like the uncropped picture of the photographer better than the cropped version.

[Jim Galli]

Here is a favorite:


http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/1908/Fowler_Fallini.jpg
new york to paris

Nothing to do with this thread, but I have a neat 15 inch f6.7 Petzval to sell! 8X10 and very light.

[goamules]

Here is a recent halfplate collodion. Done with an 1862 6.5 inch, f3.8 Dallmeyer Stereo lens.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3472/3291718018_d90819f05f_o.png

And the lens.
http://www.collodion.com/forum/uploads/688/DALL1863.JPG

[jnantz]

13.5" vitax xxx film ( 5x7 )

[lungovw]

This was done with a Darlot, the one with a Cone Centralizateur, serial number 29.820. Neg is 13 x 18 cm. Film Ilford FP4 developed 8:30 min in 510 Pyro at 23°C and contact printed in Agfa MCC 111 Fb. WL

[walter23]

13.5" vitax xxx film ( 5x7 )


Wait... you take fuzzy pictures of *people* and *things* in addition to streaks? ;)

[BarryS]

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9706/theladder.jpg
Memory and Forgetting, The Ladder
TMX in Pyrocat HD
4 3/4" Gundlach Projection Petzval

[Jim Galli]

Memory and Forgetting, The Ladder
TMX in Pyrocat HD
4 3/4" Gundlach Projection Petzval

Awesome!

[Dan Dozer]

Front half of an Ilex projection petzval I got from Mr. Galli himself (who says you need to use the whole lens). Thanks a million Jim - I've just started using this lens and I love the look of it.

Full lens is a 4.5". Front half give me about 8" at F4.5.

8 x 10 Tmax 400 - Platinum/Palladium.

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Front half of an Ilex projection petzval I got from Mr. Galli himself (who says you need to use the whole lens). Thanks a million Jim - I've just started using this lens and I love the look of it.

Full lens is a 4.5". Front half give me about 8" at F4.5.

8 x 10 Tmax 400 - Platinum/Palladium.

Holy S&^+ Dan that sure is a keeper of a lens. Love the whole image and the tone. The hair is astonishing! Great shot.

Jim

[BarryS]

Awesome!

Thanks Jim--That's the little Petzval I got from you. It gets a lot of use!

Barry

[walter23]

That's great, Jim. Just goes to show that you don't have to use these things just for the ridiculous aberrations :)

I also like BarryS's structure. Cool.



Here is a favorite:

new york to paris[/CENTER]

Nothing to do with this thread, but I have a neat 15 inch f6.7 Petzval to sell! 8X10 and very light.

[jnantz]

Wait... you take fuzzy pictures of *people* and *things* in addition to streaks? ;)

yup -- guilty as charged!

[Dave Aharonian]

Derogy Portrait lens. In my living room.

[Daniel_Buck]

I've posted these in other threads before, but here they are again, 145mm f2.0 projection lens that is some sort of petzval. All of these shot on a 4x5 speedgraphic, uncropped.

http://www.buckshotsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/rileys_13.jpg

http://www.buckshotsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/lily_01.jpg

http://www.buckshotsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/griffith_tree_09.jpg

http://www.buckshotsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/vara_01.jpg

[Jon Wilson]

Here is a chrome I took with a small Seroco 4" f2.7 petzval.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7763500

Jon

[walter23]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/walter2323/hyperspace-arbutus1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/walter2323/statue1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/walter2323/mrsalty.jpg

[goamules]

There is an amazing variety of looks a Petzval can produce. As a reminder, there is a flickr Petzval Lens Photographs (http://www.flickr.com/groups/868027@N25/) group with over 400 shots taken on film, daguerreotype, wet plate, etc.

Garrett

[Ramiro Elena]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2770/4375756100_3901594243.jpg

[Dr Bellows]

There was recently a 5x7 Wollensak Series A Portrait lens for sale on ebay. This lens was listed by the seller as a Petzval. Is this true? The 1907 & 1913 catalog entries for the lens say nothing about the design, other than 4 elements.

I have a curious sample of an 8x10 Seneca Series A Portrait lens. The thing is painted black, making me think it was used for enlarging work. There is no adjustable diaphragm; though the aperture ring is there, it has no f-stop markings. Just past the ring is a slot, I assume for drop-in aperture masks. The glass is fine, so I need only find a way to bolt it onto my 4x5 to try it out. I may need to weld some rebar to the camera or attach a weather balloon to help support its considerable mass.

[Kirk Gittings]

This thread belongs in our Image Sharing and Discussion forum. It was started before we created that forum.

[Dirk Rösler]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2770/4375756100_3901594243.jpg

Superb! It doesn't have the usual/expected Petz signature, which might be a good thing. Can you give details on the lens used?

[Ramiro Elena]

Superb! It doesn't have the usual/expected Petz signature, which might be a good thing. Can you give details on the lens used?

Yes, I don't see it either :P
It's a brass lens (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rabato/4403792702/) I recovered from my parents, a Petzval according to the experts here in the forum. It was a little confusing to mount correctly at first but I think I got it right.
I am shocked at the sharpness it yields, kinda hoped it would have more of that classic Petzval effect.

Thanks anyway :)

@Kirk: Can the thread be moved to the image sharing section?

[Jay Decker]

I am shocked at the sharpness it yields, kinda hoped it would have more of that classic Petzval effect.

Recently, I started shooting Petzval lenses and experienced the same result, surprising sharpness in the photos. However, when I used the same lens with a larger film format, e.g., changing from 5x7 to 8x10 film, I saw more of the Petzval effect around the perimeter of the image. The effect also comes out more in the out of focus background background with alternating light and dark areas, e.g., the little tree in the background of this photo...

http://jaydecker.com/img/v11/p321711321-3.jpg

[goamules]

Nice one Jay. Yeah, you can tell if there is swirl by putting a bush with a lot of small leaves in front of the lens, at 6, then 10, then 20 feet, and playing with the focus, pretending you are focusing on something closer. If you get swirl, and like that kind of thing, then just add the subject at the right point in front of the bush that doesn't need refocusing (much).

[Jim Galli]

Yes, the Wollensak Series A is a Petzval and your Se Ro Co and Seneca is very likely a re-branded Wollensak Series A. It was VERY common in that era. Bausch and Lomb and Wollensak both did this a lot.

Swirls occur way out in the fringe area that was never meant to be used. A respectable portraitist 70 years ago would use a 16 inch petzval on a 5X7 plate and thus insure he was getting only the sweet center spot.

We on the other hand are a bunch of degenerates using petzvals too small for the medium in order to get swirlies on purpose :D:D

[Jay Decker]

... A respectable portraitist 70 years ago would use a 16 inch petzval on a 5X7 plate and thus insure he was getting only the sweet center spot.

This is exactly what I did, unknowingly, but I expected a different result... I put my "small" Dallmeyer Petzval lens on a studio camera with a 5x7 back. I expected swirl, but did not see any. What I did not recognize was that the "small" Dallmeyer 4D lens had a focal length of 17-inches, max aperture of f/6, and produces nice sharp portraits on 5x7 film. When I put a "large" Dallmeyer 3B lens with a focal length of 11-inches and max aperture f/3 on the camera with an 8x10 back... the image looked like a Petzval image.


While portraits made with the 17-inch Dallmeyer 4D on 5x7 are quite distinct, those portraits are more aesthetically pleasing in character to me than the same portrait made with a modern razor sharp coated lens... YMMV

[Steve M Hostetter]

7" Petzal on sinar P 4x5 Galli shutter,,, fuji instant film

[Steve M Hostetter]

7" petzal 4x5 sinar P fuji instant film

[Emil Schildt]

many years ago, I did some portraits, using my first LF camera (18x24 oak tree camera).
Without knowing it then, the lens was surely a petzval.
I since sold the camera/lens (shouldn't have, but that's life...) and I still mis that lens.

I used paper as negatives to make contact prints.

here are a couple of the ones I made:

[goamules]

Here's another I shot this week with the Voigtlander 6B on 5x7 wetplate. I don't like the weird effect in front of the rabbit's nose...something about the flare off the glass vase. But it shows another aspect of some petzvals; very short depth of field.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2730/4411503331_b060ba64a8.jpg
Larger on black (http://bighugelabs.com/onblack.php?id=4411503331&posted=1&size=large)

[Robert Hughes]

But it shows another aspect of some petzvals; very short depth of field.And, apparently, reversed out-of-focus oil bottles. :p

[Ramiro Elena]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4422486522_938a21295e_b.jpg

[Miguel Coquis]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4422486522_938a21295e_b.jpg

Nice !
Peaceful !!
More please....

[Jim Galli]

.......another rather 'straight' shot with the 24 inch petzval on full plate film.


http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/Harrahs011409/1907ThomasInShopHrizS.jpg
1907 thomas flyer that won the New York ~ Paris race

[Robert Hughes]

New York - Paris race? What'd they do, roar around the deck of the Lusitania?

[Jim Galli]

New York - Paris race? What'd they do, roar around the deck of the Lusitania?

Originally they planned to drive across the bering straits. When that proved impossible they floated from San Francisco to Japan, and then from the other side of Japan to Siberia. Quite a story!

[h2oman]

OK, I have a question - only after a couple years of reading this forum do I have the nerve to ask.

What IS a petzval? And what's the big deal about them? I have some hunches but no real certainty...

[BarryS]

OK, I have a question - only after a couple years of reading this forum do I have the nerve to ask.

What IS a petzval? And what's the big deal about them? I have some hunches but no real certainty...

http://www.antiquecameras.net/petzvallens.html

[Jim collum]

some random shots from some of the drugs I got from Mr. Galli.


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20091010_ftord_006.jpg


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20090929_henry_012.jpg


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20090921_roaringcamp_035.jpg


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20090917_hbh_006.jpg

[jon.oman]

I love that second image!

Jon

[Ben Calwell]

Those are completely wonderful, Jim

[h2oman]

Thanks, Barry.

[Pat Kearns]

Jim, I agree on your second image. It has a beautiful 3 demensional quality. It draws you down the path.

[CarstenW]

Jim, the second shot really is great. Somewhere I have something similar (but not quite as good, and taken on MF). The first one, however, is the one I keep coming back to. It is deceptively simple, almost nothing of substance there, yet, there is something there which captures me...

[Jim collum]

thanks everyone for the kind words! I've been enjoying the fun Mr. Galli has been providing. Here's a meniscus (the first Bausch & Lomb i got from you). Up until now, i've been playing with only the front element... this shot was with both front and rear elements


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20100318_hcp_004.jpg

http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20100318_hcp_002.jpg


(both shot with Ebony & Betterlight)

[eddie]

the second one is great jim.

[GSX4]

Here's one I did a few days ago after building a wet plate back for my Chamonix 45 N The lens is a Darlot (approx 6 or 7")

[alon96]

Deardorff 810
Derogy Petzval
FP4
LC29

[Jim Galli]

thanks everyone for the kind words! I've been enjoying the fun Mr. Galli has been providing. Here's a meniscus (the first Bausch & Lomb i got from you). Up until now, i've been playing with only the front element... this shot was with both front and rear elements




(both shot with Ebony & Betterlight)
Both are excellent but that 2nd one just makes me with we had trees in Tonopah. That tree is dancin.

[BarryS]

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3525/glassesm.jpg
Shot this earlier tonight with a whole plate (11.5") f/5 Wollensak Vesta Portrait lens
5x7 Alumitype

[GSX4]

Nice one Barry!!!!

[GSX4]

Here's a new one I made today.... An approximately 7" Darlot on the new wet plate back I made for my Chamonix camera.

[BarryS]

Thanks Andrew! Your plate is excellent.

[Hugo Zhang]

B&L projector lens with Kodak 2D and 57 reducing back.

[alon96]

Ansco 5x7
Petzval
shanghai GP3
LC-29

[jon.oman]

Ansco 5x7
Petzval
shanghai GP3
LC-29

I really like these!

Jon

[GSX4]

Here's another.... collodion on aluminum shot taken with Chamonix 45-1N and Darlot petzval

[goamules]

Nice. But you didn't say what the subject was, Smith?

[Ramiro Elena]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4481020929_d606f4658e_b.jpg

[GSX4]

It's a 7 shot S&W in .357.... I did say 7 shot!.


Nice. But you didn't say what the subject was, Smith?

[GSX4]

Here are a few more done today....

Collodion on Aluminum taken with Chamonix 45-1N and Darlot petzval.

[leighmarrin]

Excuse all the deleted attempts... I'm trying to post a couple of shots from a Snaplite 5.75" f2 lens on my Pacemaker, and I can only just display the links... I'm clicking on the "insert image", but no image is displayed... what am I doing wrong??

http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/is.php?i=7483&img=4x5~30.jpg
http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/is.php?i=7482&img=4x5~21.jpg

[unrealalex]

http://www.ambrotype.ru/photos/wet-plate/ambro-portrait014.jpg

Dallmeyer 4B 17"/3.8

[GSX4]

This kicks @$$!!


http://www.ambrotype.ru/photos/wet-plate/ambro-portrait014.jpg

Dallmeyer 4B 17"/3.8

[GSX4]

Here's one more from me made today.. Chamonix 45 1N with home made wet plate back using a 6" Darlot @ F4

Collodion on Aluminum

[Kirk Gittings]

A couple of (perhaps dumb) questions for the Petzval gurus. I am considering doing a 4x5 art project using a Petzval lens. The images will both be landscapes at infinity and details say at 2-4 feet. I want a lens that will vignette slightly on the infinity shots and similarly on the closeups. In other words I want there to be consistency between the two types of shots so there is coherence in the look of the images in the portfolio. I don't want to fake it by burning the edges of the print. I assume to accomplish this I will need two lenses, as one that vignettes on the close ups will have too much coverage at infinity to vignette. Given the distance parameters I described above approx. what focal length lenses might I need? Or am I just thinking wrong here? Thanks guys.

[eddie]

hey kirk,

i think it is going to be a bit tough to vignette a 4x5 at 2-4 feet. you would need a super short lens and this may cause you other difficulties. i am thinking a 50-75mm lens will still not vignette at 2-3 feet but i may be wrong....i have never used such short petzvals. getting what you want at infinity should be fairly easy. a 3-5 inch lens should do this for you.

i wish i had one to send you to play with.....

eddie

[GSX4]

A couple of (perhaps dumb) questions for the Petzval gurus. I am considering doing a 4x5 art project using a Petzval lens. The images will both be landscapes at infinity and details say at 2-4 feet. I want a lens that will vignette slightly on the infinity shots and similarly on the closeups. In other words I want there to be consistency between the two types of shots so there is coherence in the look of the images in the portfolio. I don't want to fake it by burning the edges of the print. I assume to accomplish this I will need two lenses, as one that vignettes on the close ups will have too much coverage at infinity to vignette. Given the distance parameters I described above approx. what focal length lenses might I need? Or am I just thinking wrong here? Thanks guys.

Kirk, I would suggest something like a 5" B&L cinephor II lens for the closer in work as it vignettes close in still, then a 6 or 7" version for infinity shots.

The 5" version swirls and falls of violently at infinity, but is superb for closer in work with some fall off and usual 'roundness' in the out of focus areas at the edges of the film area. The 6" will likely be your best bet for inifinity as it will have some slightly dark corners but less for closer in shots.

The Cinephor II lenses are sleeper lenses. I have 3 of them and have found them all over the map price wise. They are VERY fast being modified petzval types. The 5" I have is around f2 maybe faster. They have very large objectives but as a result work great with Speed graphics and ND filters.

[Jim Galli]

Kirk, I would think in terms of an approximately 5 1/2" lens and make up a tube from black paper stock. Use the tube to vignette the things that are closer in. I have a lens I would lend you, but think in terms of f3, no aperture, no shutter.

[goamules]

This was shot on quarterplate (3.25 x 4.25) with a 5.5 inch petzval. I was about 8 feet from the lantern though. So 5 to 5.5 inch is perhaps what you want. I'm selling a 130mm with about a 110-140mm image circle now on this board, if that would do.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2656/3952441076_09ed85754d_o.png

[leighmarrin]

Garret, I like the lantern shot; I have a nearly identical brakeman's Adlake-Kero with UP-RR markings. Kirk, FWIW, here's an oddball shot with a Kollmorgen Snaplite Series II 5.75"/f2, which I think (??) is similar to the B&L Cinephor.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/49057438@N08/4530995550/

[Mark Sawyer]

Kirk ~

I've found there to be significant differences, Petzval to Petzval, in field curvature, coverage, and swirliness. If you really want the look to match throughout the series, you might be better off shooting with one short lens (maybe 4" on a 4x5 or 5" on a 5x7) and cropping to the desired amount of vignetting.

Jim's idea of the vignetting tube would give you the consistent vignetting you want at different extensions, but you might lose the Petzval effects that happen most at the outer edge of the circle of illumination as the vignetting increased.

[Kirk Gittings]

The Goamules image is about the vignetting I would like. That was not shot with the one that you have for sale though? Is it identical?

Wow. I love this forum. You guys are so knowledgeable. Looks like I should do some experimenting. Thanks for the offer Master Jim.


Jim's idea of the vignetting tube would give you the consistent vignetting you want at different extensions, but you might lose the Petzval effects that happen most at the outer edge of the circle of illumination as the vignetting increased

Maybe start out with a 4" as per Marks suggestion?

[goamules]

The Goamules image is about the vignetting I would like. That was not shot with the one that you have for sale though? Is it identical?
...

Not the same lens, this shot is from a very old Dag lens. But like Mark says, they are somewhat different, especially at the perimeters. I can recheck how it would vignette if you like, I have an iris mount on my 8x10 so I can mount anything. But the image circle is pretty accurately measured in the ad, from infinity to pretty close up. If I recall, it's smallest image circle is 110mm.

[Jim Galli]

A couple of new petzval shots tonight that I liked;


http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/1929_Phaeton/14f7Petzval/RadiatorShell.jpg
'29 radiator shell

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/1929_Phaeton/14f7Petzval/Cowl.jpg
'29 phaeton cowl

These with a surprise petzval. I thought it would be a common 10" f4.5 lantern lens but it turned out to be a 14" f7. Family resemblance is to the common Darlot lantern lenses with pencil script on the glass sides, but it only says No. 4.

[Jay Decker]

Dallmeyer 3B, 8x10 Studio Camera, 8x10 negative (and poor lighting)

http://jaydecker.com/img/v11/p623715233-4.jpg



Dallmeyer 4D, 8x10 Studio Camera, 5x7 negative (and the same poor lighting)

http://jaydecker.com/img/v11/p628430245-3.jpg

[Hugo Zhang]

Here is one.

[mandoman7]

http://images54.fotki.com/v452/photos/2/1219782/7565497/Nallebudp1-vi.jpg

5" projection petzval.

[GriZZly]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/4582136921_7d272d1a11_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4582136731_b0d13d5cd9_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4582137153_837aa9ac81_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4582137235_22fe38fd39_o.jpg

Dallmeyer projection 4" on Kiev 6C. Kodak tri-x in rodinal. canon 8800f.

[Jim Galli]

Dallmeyer projection 4" on Kiev 6C. Kodak tri-x in rodinal. canon 8800f.

Sweet! Well done. I would venture that lens is probably from about 1920. That's just a guess. You get the spacing right with the background and that little thing will really swirl!

[Joe Smigiel]

Damn nice first post Grizzly. I really like the first and last.

[Kerik Kouklis]

Grizzly, nice work! I'd be interested to hear/see how you mounted the lens to your camera.

[Michael Jones]

Grizzly, nice work! I'd be interested to hear/see how you mounted the lens to your camera.

While I don't know how Grizzly did it, our friends at SK Grimes have done it thusly:

http://www.skgrimes.com/thisweek/1-09-07/index.htm

(photo from the website)

[GriZZly]

Grizzly, nice work! I'd be interested to hear/see how you mounted the lens to your camera.

just put lens into helicoid of VEGA-12b :)
No infinity, focus from 5m to 0.5m

[Ben Calwell]

Ok -- where can I buy a petzval and how much are they?

[Tri Tran]

Grizzly, nice work! I'd be interested to hear/see how you mounted the lens to your camera.

Kerik,
Here's what I did with motion pictures lens that I have been used with DSLR including Kinoptik, Kern , Cooke, Som Berthiot, Dallmeyer, B&L from Bolex , Bell Howell and others projector lenses are greats lens to use with all kinds adapters which available on Ebay from HK and Taiwan sellers.
The Pezvals, Veritos, Dallmeyer 4-6 inches are popular right now because they cover and easely mounted on 6x6 format .
I took 4- 6 inches B&L glued in the PVC and mounted on M42 mount ,from there you can easely screw it in any M42 Helicoid Focusing to Hassy . The M42 Helicoid focusing is available from 12mm to 90mm as you wish , custom order are available too and the good thing is the price are also very attractive. I have so much fun with these adapters . Please PM me you need more info . Regards. TT

[goamules]

Ok -- where can I buy a petzval and how much are they?

Everywhere, any price. They were the standard portrait, projector, astronomy, lenses for over half a century. Prices vary widely.

[Kirk Gittings]

Kerik,
I took 4- 6 inches B&L glued in the PVC and mounted on M42 mount ,from there you can easely screw it in any M42 Helicoid Focusing to Hassy . The M42 Helicoid focusing is available from 12mm to 90mm as you wish , custom order are available too and the good thing is the price are also very attractive. I have so much fun with these adapters . Please PM me you need more info . Regards. TT

TT, Interesting, I have a couple of small Petzvals coming this week and an old Hassleblad collecting dust. I didn't quite follow the setup above. Could you explain further? Thanks.

[Steve M Hostetter]

Fuji 4x5 instant

[Tri Tran]

TT, Interesting, I have a couple of small Petzvals coming this week and an old Hassleblad collecting dust. I didn't quite follow the setup above. Could you explain further? Thanks.

Hi Kirk,
You can buy already made Helicoid focusing with M42, M52 to Hassy mount around $ 100-150 on Ebay .
For Example:
Your lens --> PVC Tub-->M42 or M52 -->Helicoid Focusing ( Variable Focusing length depend on your calculation. From macro 1:1 , 2:1 to infinity focus...you have to decide and know exactly when you order the Helicoid adapter) then from Helicoid is already mounted with the Hassy mount

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1104/deepfieldpanchro2.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/deepfieldpanchro2.jpg/)
I bought these lenses with all kinds and took the front part of the lens to convert , you can see here including the Cooke Deep Field Panchro which is wisely used in Motion Pictures back in the 50'. The 6 inches B& L petzval is on the left .

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/1955/deepfieldpanchro3.jpg (http://img535.imageshack.us/i/deepfieldpanchro3.jpg/)

The Cooke Deep Field Panchro is completed and ready to mount on any camera depending what adapter mount you have.

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/4960/petzval1.jpg (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/petzval1.jpg/)

And the Result is here.

Hope this helps,
TT

[Kerik Kouklis]

TT - Thanks! That helps a lot.

[Kirk Gittings]

Helicoid is already mounted with the Hassy mount

TT,

Where are you finding a helicoid with a hassy mount? I've been looking online and couldn't find it? Maybe I don't understand something.

[Tri Tran]

Hi Kirk,
There is a few sellers here on the Bay like this one 380182322777 but it's pricey!And again if the lens too big for the M42 then you have to use step ring for step up or can be combined with this 220597726338 for better fit.
The guy that I often used is from Taiwan , he 's a fine machinist and his specialty are these kinds of adapters including Arri Mount .Anything you want! I will PM you once I found his info. Cheers. TT

[Robert Hughes]

Those helicoids of Tri Tran's are Bell & Howell Eyemo mounts, no?

[life_in_sepia]

This is a full plate tintype shot with a Dallmeyer 2B.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2597/4002792723_d65fcf25f5_b.jpg

I should also add that it was a 14 second (!) exposure. My leg hurts thinking about it.

[GSX4]

Here's what I did to mount a petzval or two on my Blad 201F... Two ABS plumbing fittings. One male and one female. Some gaffa tape, JB Weld and a modified body cap.

The most difficult part is hogging out the inside of the body cap. I did it by drilling a hole right in the middle using the plastic mould casting sprew on the back of the cap as a guide. I started with a small drill, then worked up to a 1/4". I then place the cap onto 1/4" made out of an old router bit that was mounted onto a block of wood mounted to the router table. Using a but underneath, I turned the cap around the central pin and gradually shaved the inside/front of the cap down. It takes a little while but if you are patient and careful you can do it with minimal problems. You cannot go all the way down, but after a while the inside piece loosens and the outside rim and a small shelf on the inside is all that's left. You then JB weld the male ABS plumbing part inside the cap with the thread sticking our the front. After placing a piece of gaffa tape on the threads, it gives a friction fit of the female plumbing piece. It's this piece that is gaffa taped to the lens itself using two strips as can be seen here. Then lens and adaptor then can be stuck over the threads. You can cut these plumbing pieces to whatever length you need to achieve infinity focus. Being friction fit, you can adjust the close focus of the lens, as well as gain some rudimentary movements for tilt. I've used this set up since last fall and it's VERY CHEAP, and just needs a little patience in the workshop.... YMMV. There are also a few shots I made last March.

[SERGE TLT]

my Petzval test ( 240-250 mm. / 5.6 ?)

http://s45.radikal.ru/i107/1005/8c/b19f1a291b53.jpg


Petzval vs Fujinon 250 6.3

http://i027.radikal.ru/1005/3b/d9a970c6428e.jpg
http://i018.radikal.ru/1005/3c/fbd56a8036b3.jpg

[Dave Aharonian]

4x5 Efke 25. Darlot lens.

I was going for lots of swirlies here!

[Hugo Zhang]

Dave,

very nice!

[Alex Hollmann]

In reaction to SERGE's pictures above: Images sure to make any Russian weep with nostalgia - blue skies, green grass, and birches. Beautiful treatment of the subject, and just the right lens. Reminds me of the work of Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii - http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/gorskii.html

[Hugo Zhang]

Serge,

I love these Petzval shots in color. The first one is my favorite among the three.

[SERGE TLT]

Alex,
Yes images from this lens throw us in olden days.I still plan to remove portraits and not just Russian nature :)

Hugo
These are my very first shots on Petzval (test). And I have passed to the large format only one month ago.

I have cleaned a wire then. It in the course of manual assemblage was glued by a material so.Toyo Field 45 AII with
http://s57.radikal.ru/i158/1005/df/c32fb5f5135e.jpg
http://i030.radikal.ru/1005/a4/986cbde66224.jpg
http://s03.radikal.ru/i176/1005/54/0d09ef54c8b2.jpg

[SERGE TLT]

BW ERA 100
http://s47.radikal.ru/i117/1005/e0/f97a5f782f00.jpg

[Ramiro Elena]

That's a nice adaptation Serge. Would you mind sharing more pics or howto's on the Sinar Shutter to Toyo? I have a Toyo Field 45A and it would be nice to work something like it, specially if the shutter could still be used on a Sinar.

[SERGE TLT]

ramiroelena,
Has made some pictures. If there will be questions it is ready to answer

http://s45.radikal.ru/i109/1005/be/51145309f58dt.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s45.radikal.ru/i109/1005/be/51145309f58d.jpg.html)http://s43.radikal.ru/i102/1005/b3/b3df385d44f3t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s43.radikal.ru/i102/1005/b3/b3df385d44f3.jpg.html)http://s50.radikal.ru/i128/1005/4d/c47f6ce8eb25t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s50.radikal.ru/i128/1005/4d/c47f6ce8eb25.jpg.html)http://s46.radikal.ru/i114/1005/b6/1b2c9a04d32ft.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s46.radikal.ru/i114/1005/b6/1b2c9a04d32f.jpg.html)

[SERGE TLT]

http://s001.radikal.ru/i194/1005/0b/56df77408373t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s001.radikal.ru/i194/1005/0b/56df77408373.jpg.html)http://s19.radikal.ru/i192/1005/5a/045458a23c70t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s19.radikal.ru/i192/1005/5a/045458a23c70.jpg.html)http://i057.radikal.ru/1005/4a/da598fbb42e5t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i057.radikal.ru/1005/4a/da598fbb42e5.jpg.html)http://i026.radikal.ru/1005/58/f80f6110b6f4t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i026.radikal.ru/1005/58/f80f6110b6f4.jpg.html)

[Ramiro Elena]

Thanks Serge, top photos! You're tha man.

[mandoman7]

http://images9.fotki.com/v1603/photos/2/1219782/7565497/Katz3c-vi.jpg

Michael came by for a table tennis match and got shot with a Dallmeyer 2A

[Michael Wynd]

John,
you play table tennis and use a LF camera. So do I. Is there a trend?
Mike

[mandoman7]

If you also play banjo, I'll be worried. :D

[Michael Wynd]

Not the banjo, but classical guitar. Is that good enough??
Mike

[Steve M Hostetter]

4x5 Chammy w/ 7" 3.5 Petzval wide open on iso 320 w/ Galli shutter

[mandoman7]

Not the banjo, but classical guitar. Is that good enough??
Mike

We can jam when I visit.;)

[BarryS]

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/26/coyotessoulisweighedand.jpg
Coyote's Soul is Weighed and Found Wanting
5x7" Alumitype
Century 8A Studio camera
11.5" Wollensak Vesta Petzval lens
20 seconds@f/5

[Tom J McDonald]

Spectacular!

[Tri Tran]

Another Petz Shot. Plate 11x14 French Lens.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3623/hermagis.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/hermagis.jpg/)

[Steve M Hostetter]

Another Petz Shot. Plate 11x14 French Lens.

beautiful^

[tonkhang]

Hi Tri ...
You like french lenses ... and did you like Camembert cheese ???

[Jan Pedersen]

TT, That is a masterpiece, beautiful model.

[Tri Tran]

Steve, Jan and Khang
Thanks for the compliments. I will continue to work on these French lenses and will post here more often . So far I feel very lucky with these French lenses shots.

[BarryS]

Spectacular!

Thanks!

[Craig Tuffin]

I bought a very nice 7" Voigtlander Petzval from Garrett last week and finally poured a couple of plates today. The first ambrotype was shot with the model diffused behind glass (I didn't draw on the plate;) ) 7 secs wide open at f3.5. The second Alumitype for 1 minute.

[Ramiro Elena]

I bought a very nice 7" Voigtlander Petzval from Garrett last week and finally poured a couple of plates today. The first ambrotype was shot with the model diffused behind glass (I didn't draw on the plate;) ) 7 secs wide open at f3.5. The second Alumitype for 1 minute.

I'd make the photos a bit larger Craig, they're really hard to appreciate at 200x200 pixels. :)

[Craig Tuffin]

I'd make the photos a bit larger Craig, they're really hard to appreciate at 200x200 pixels. :)

Fair enough comment :rolleyes: I guess I'm too concerned about upload time. Here they are again a 'lil' bit bigger.

[monsta]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4715077429_901111e323_b.jpg
left overs from the crystal palace. south london. efke 50, newton & ellis projection lens

[john wood]

now that is a really cool use of a petzval...

[SERGE TLT]

http://s43.radikal.ru/i100/1007/19/72dc0559926f.jpg

[SERGE TLT]

http://i080.radikal.ru/1007/35/b73c309d95e7.jpg

[Jim collum]

Serge,

Both images are excellent use of the lenses.. also a great color mood


Some shots with the Holmes, Booth & Haydens of the series Pet Cemetery

Shot with the Betterlight, with no IR block filter (basically an IR capture)

http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20100705_petcemetery_011a.jpg


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20100705_petcemetery_024a.jpg


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20100705_petcemetery_021a.jpg



http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20100705_petcemetery_012a.jpg

[Jim collum]

Pet Cemetery

http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20100705_petcemetery_022a.jpg



http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20100705_petcemetery_019a.jpg



http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20100705_petcemetery_003a.jpg


http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/1/2/20100705_petcemetery_002a.jpg

[Joe Smigiel]

Mesmerizing Serge. Great use of complementary color. In addition to coordinating the color of the model with the surround, I really enjoy how the background window frame reverses the colors of the foreground scaffold in the second image. These two are among my favorite images of all posted in this folder and the entire forum.

I wish I had taken them. I really like them. I can't say enough about them. Absolutely stellar.

[Peter Mounier]

Serge
Very nice.

Peter

[SERGE TLT]

Thanks all :)

encore

http://s61.radikal.ru/i173/1007/6f/eaa9e2dd2a78.jpg

[Robert Hughes]

Hot Russian girls FTW - not just for espionage! ;)

[Joe Smigiel]

Hot Russian girls FTW - not just for espionage! ;)

OMG! :eek: They were supposedly posting secret messages within the pictures on the internet.

I'll have to look even closer now. :)

Another winner Serge, for many of the same reasons.

[SERGE TLT]

yes all beautiful Russian girls - are agents KGB :cool: :)

http://s15.radikal.ru/i188/1007/74/7188fc9dd342.jpg

[Robert Hughes]

Excellence incarnate! You have us all in your power! I cannot live any longer without passing on to you the secret circuit information:
http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/images/dialay.gif
Plus Points, KGB fans - name that circuit!

[RPippin]

Serge, I have many secrets to tell. Send agent ASAP. Great color shot. I'm just now exploring petzval lenses.

[SERGE TLT]

RPippin,
Write all secrets to me. I will transfer to it. If the information is good it will send you greetings. :)
If seriously that this girl loves mountains. It the climber

http://i049.radikal.ru/1007/c2/28c002e41fdf.jpg

[Robert Hughes]

I wonder what the NSA (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704545004575352983850463108.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLETopStories) is making of this thread? :rolleyes:

[RPippin]

Big secret number 1. I've been divorced more than twice. Big secret number 2. I'm addicted to buying cameras. I hide them from my current wife and my friends. Big secret number 3. I have a weekness for redheads. Not so secret, I'm inspired by many of the shots I see here on APUG.

[David Cerbone]

This is from my first roll using a Petzval lens, a 6" on a Graflex Super D. Not large format, I realize, but as I just scanned it yesterday, I'm pretty excited to show it around.

Two versions: the original color shot (Fuji NPS160 film) and sepia-toned variant courtesy of Photoshop.

[Robert Hughes]

...the secret circuit information...
Wouldn't I be embarrassed if it really did have steganographic code. :( According to a recent addition to the Wikipedia article on steganography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography): "In 2010, the Federal Bureau of Investigation revealed that the Russian foreign intelligence service uses customized steganography software for embedding encrypted text messages inside image files for certain communications with "illegal agents" (agents under non-diplomatic cover) stationed abroad."

[SERGE TLT]

:))))))))
Some things occurring in the USA to me seem ridiculous. It is reminded developing by mania of prosecution(?). It even reminds as KGB to us raked over the coals at the time of the USSR.

RPippin,
To last holiday went on mountains with photoequipment. Has met there the american of the climber (Wall-street). Very much it was pleasant to it in mountains of Caucasus (the southwest of Russia). Give its co-ordinates can to ask it? Come we will make photoround in wild Russian beautiful places....
It is possible to organise business "photoround in search of beautiful Russian spies" :)))

[Pete Watkins]

Back to the buisness lads!
Willow buds, Foma 100, Wista DX, Wide open Petzval by The English Lens Co., London. I have never heard of this company or seen any other lenses by them.
Pet

[Pete Watkins]

Two more with an unknown Magic Lantern lens. Those willow buds again and in a friends factory.
Pete.

[RPippin]

Thanks Serge. I live in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia. Very old mountains and quite beautiful. You should try and organize a photo workshop to share some of the beauty of your country. I just purchased a 12" f8 petzval and I'm still trying to learn how to use it. I'm shooting it on an old Kodak 2D 8X10 camera. By the way, we have a very close friend from the Ukrain named Olga who is like a daughter to me and does some modeling from time to time. I'll try and send you some shots.

[SERGE TLT]

RPippin

Yes it will be interesting to look. I wish to buy still Petzval 6-7"

[tenderobject]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4812310252_cf3b4d90b0_b.jpg

6" Petzval f3.8 or f4.5, Magic Lantern Projector Lens

[Scott --]

Posted this in the portrait thread, but it applies here as well.

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd359/smpsweeps/melissa.jpg

Seneca Improved View, Ross No.3 Universal 10", Arista.EDU Ultra 100 in HC-110

[Brian Bullen]

Jefrey,
Love the feeling in your photo. Very nice.

[mandoman7]

That is an extremely nice portrait, Scott. What comes across for me is a stong woman who is very supportive and loving, and good looking. We should all be so lucky: a talented guy with a good woman. :)

[Jim Galli]

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/Youngblood07102010/MudLake_s.jpg
banjo, mud lake, nv.

Our own John Youngblood aka mandoman. Looks like banjoman to me.

[Scott --]

So nice!!


That is an extremely nice portrait, Scott. What comes across for me is a stong woman who is very supportive and loving, and good looking. We should all be so lucky: a talented guy with a good woman. :)

Thanks much! John, correct on all counts. Thanks for the kind words.

Scott

[tenderobject]

Jefrey,
Love the feeling in your photo. Very nice.

thanks brian! would want to shoot this petzval everyday but i can't. need do something so i could shoot this petzval even when the sun is UP!

anyone wants to share their process/techniques/styles when using barrel lens outside especially a petzval type lens (no shutter/no waterhouse/no iris)?

thanks!

[ajsikel]

banjo, mud lake, nv.

Our own John Youngblood aka mandoman. Looks like banjoman to me.

thats an image !
bjuti

[SERGE TLT]

http://s15.radikal.ru/i188/1007/73/b74cc94be440.jpg
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9451/img0333.jpg

[ljsegil]

Petzval of unknown manufacture, provenance, and focal length, though the last seems to be somewhat less than 6" based on the lens' inability to focus to infinity on the delightful 4x5 converted Graflex RB Super D 3x4 kindly sold to me by sgelb, aperture seems to be about f5.6 based on trial and error exposures. This travesty of a photograph was shot on a Kodak E100VS Readyload (great system for the camera, surplus film and holder available for purchase if interested) at a shutter speed of...well, between 1/30 and 1/1000 according to the Graflex focal plane shutter. I didn't know that Petzvals could do triangles as well as swirls. Live and learn (slowly, in my case). I should probably crop the foreground, get a roughly square aspect ratio, and say I did it with a Hassleblad.
Larry

[eddie]

Petzval of unknown manufacture, provenance, and focal length,
Larry

looks to me like the rear air spaced group are not correctly arranged.....

[ljsegil]

looks to me like the rear air spaced group are not correctly arranged.....

Eddie--by "rear air spaced group are not correctly arranged" I assume you mean the void behind my eyes and between my ears?
LJS

[Mark Sawyer]

I'll second Eddie's thought. About half my Petzvals came to me mis-assembled, and that's about the look they give.

[eddie]

Eddie--by "rear air spaced group are not correctly arranged" I assume you mean the void behind my eyes and between my ears?
LJS

no, i meant on the lens group....but now that you mentioned it you may want to check that void too......

[ljsegil]

Can't (grunt) get the lens...group...to turn...(grunt and groan)....
Maybe can't grip well enough through the void, might be slippery in there.
Closeup stuff looks nice to my too easily impressed eye, however.
Larry, loosely

[eddie]

Can't (grunt) get the lens...group...to turn...(grunt and groan)....
Maybe can't grip well enough through the void, might be slippery in there.
Closeup stuff looks nice to my too easily impressed eye, however.
Larry, loosely

looks like a nice shot....still not quite petzval like....but if you enjoy it do not change anything.

i can help you with the lens (use channel locks...har har har! just kidding!) ....but for help with the void you are on your own....well you could try a giant pair of channel locks here as well!

[tenderobject]

i love those colour images from petzval! very nice to see petzval on colour film!!!!!!!!

[SERGE TLT]

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/2606/img0373o.jpg

[eddie]

awesome serge!

[Joe Smigiel]

I'm rapidly becoming a big fan Serge. I love how you've used the swirl aligned with the tree base in the last image.

[Scott Walker]

Great image Serge!

[SERGE TLT]

All thanks. I will try to do still many good photos. At us here strong heat +44 С. Therefore it is difficult to be engaged in a photo. And last a photo has been made in such weather.
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/7586/img0383j.jpg

[Scott --]

Jeans at 44C?! Egad.

Love the color Petzval shots!

[SERGE TLT]

its ( °C ->°F ) 44->112 cold Russia :-)

[Scott --]

Outside the window this morning.

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd359/smpsweeps/0021.jpg

Herbstonne rudbeckia, Ross 10" Universal Petzval, Arista.EDU Ultra 100 in HC-110 dil H.

[David Aimone]

Scott: Similar flower... Busch 180mm petzval f/4.5
http://www.davidaimone.com/img/s6/v6/p301734544-4.jpg

[unrealalex]

http://www.ambrotype.ru/photos/wet-plate/anatoly001.jpg
She and He, ambrotype 8x10"

I used One light source + big white panel as a reflector. This portrait I made using Dallmeyer 3B wide opened

[Robert Hughes]

Very nice!

[Jim Galli]

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/MsclPetzvals/15f5BLPetz/PLMCRAZ_1s.jpg
plum crazy i

15"f5 B&L on 810

[Hugo Zhang]

Jim,

This is a very interesting shot! I like it a lot.

Hugo

[Jim Galli]

Jim,

This is a very interesting shot! I like it a lot.

Hugo


Thanks Hugo. jg

[sapata]

A few taken yesterday indoors :)

Ilford Delta 100 Rodinal 1:100 1 hour stand development.

[DanK]

plum crazy i

15"f5 B&L on 810

Great shot Jim...

Looks a bit familiar, there used to be a plum crazy running around here....a local - Phil - had built it and not sure where it went from there... NM ties maybe? Curious...

Thanks,
Dan

[Jim Galli]

Great shot Jim...

Looks a bit familiar, there used to be a plum crazy running around here....a local - Phil - had built it and not sure where it went from there... NM ties maybe? Curious...

Thanks,
Dan

Thanks Dan. Unknown on where the car has been though. I met these folks at a local farmers market and snapped the car. (do we snap with an 8X10 and 15" petzval??)

[DanK]

Thanks Dan. Unknown on where the car has been though. I met these folks at a local farmers market and snapped the car. (do we snap with an 8X10 and 15" petzval??)

Not real sure that would be considered a snap :)

I have a 2 year old (started late) and have yet to figure out the 'snap' with LF...


I had an ol' 1947 OshKosh Firetruck...that I had given to Phil....and regret it to this day, unfortunately code compliance was on me about where I had it parked, and had to do something with it fast....He had a little purple coupe at the time, also named plum crazy, he was finishing up....looked quite a bit similar...often a pretty small world...

Thanks,
Dan

[eddie]

hey all,

here is some "lost" film i shot 6-10 months ago. a friend was at my place with his speed 4x5. we were playing with it when i said, "hey, lets shoot some color film...i got some!"

it was a petzval lens wide open. other than that i can not remember anything else....not even which friend owned the camera and lens!

very old and abused 160nc film. color shift, bad scanning, bad scanner operator, etc etc.

eddie

[goamules]

wow, I really like these Eddie. You don't see color used much with Petzvals, but when you do, it's just as amazing. They look almost like Autochromes.

[Jim Galli]

wow, I really like these Eddie. You don't see color used much with Petzvals, but when you do, it's just as amazing. They look almost like Autochromes.


I agree. Those have something special going on.

[Pete Roody]

hey all,

here is some "lost" film i shot 6-10 months ago.

eddie

Now you see why I wait so long to develop my film. Nice stuff!

[Scott --]

Soldier's Graves, New Hope, PA.

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd359/smpsweeps/0040.jpg

Seneca Improved View 8x10, Ross Universal Petzval, Arista.EDU Ultra 100 in HC-110 dil H. Apparently, the Ross hasn't much room for movements... :rolleyes:

[Richard Rankin]

Here's one I did a few years ago of my grandkids. Darlot-Jamin with the cone centralisateur. I'd say all the faults are the cheap scanner and the print is magnificent, but the print pretty much matches the scan... The paper was one of the old Ilford ones, like Kentona or Impressions.

Cheers, Richard

http://www.richardrankin.com/rp/kids.jpg

[luphot]

My backyard with Dallmeyer 2C, 1sec@f:2, a cloudy day
5x7 wp

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45508&stc=1&d=1285621080

[Daniel_Buck]

I don't shoot color very often, but after seeing the results of this, I may start shooting more! Fujichrome 64T, expired by many years. Projector petzval on 4x5 speedgraphic

http://www.buckshotsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/talisker_01.jpg

[Steve M Hostetter]

Soldier's Graves, New Hope, PA.
Seneca Improved View 8x10, Ross Universal Petzval, Arista.EDU Ultra 100 in HC-110 dil H. Apparently, the Ross hasn't much room for movements... :rolleyes:

Scott,,,

We have a grave site here at the battle of Mississinewa in 1812.. The headstones are exactly the same shape and size but have the names of the fallen soldier's and what state they resided from..
I've been to this site many times but never commited to making an image.. maybe I need to make a return visit with fresh eyes

They never have the graves of the fallen native Indian's which kind of puts me off I guess

[Richard Rankin]

Is it even possible to ever take a BAD shot of a bottle of Talisker?

Cheers, Richard



I don't shoot color very often, but after seeing the results of this, I may start shooting more! Fujichrome 64T, expired by many years. Projector petzval on 4x5 speedgraphic

http://www.buckshotsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/talisker_01.jpg

[Steve M Hostetter]

stump, 8x10 paper neg

[Steve M Hostetter]

Purple Lilac

[Jon Wilson]

Couple of images taken with a Derogy 5.5 inch petzval f3

[GSX4]

Here's some shots I did to make a triptych. Each plate is whole plate sized on aluminum.

shot with a Kodak 2D and a 9" Darlot projection lens (f4) 2 x pumps of a packard on instant mode.

and the square ones were done with a Chamonix 45-1N and a 6.75" B&L Cinephor II modified petzval projection lens @ f2! Again, I used a Packard and 1 pump in instant mode.

[Stephane]

Frøde

Krantz 210mm f/4.5

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4084/5058112144_5880c44e27_b.jpg

[leighmarrin]

A single scan of two 4x5 TMAX-100 negatives of cattails in a dried-up vernal pool. Done on a Pacemaker with Richard Rankin's "ugly duckling" magic lantern petzval. (Thanks, Richard! I like it.)

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/8f7a22c939.jpg

[ustas]

Dallmeyer 3D 13x18

http://ipicture.ru/uploads/101008/10430/saztPUgAGV.jpg (http://ipicture.ru/)

[Jay Decker]

http://jaydecker.com/img/s10/v18/p894675993-4.jpg

Rectory Courtyard in Abiquiú, NM
Lens/Camera: Voigtlander Petzval/8x10 Kodak 2D
Film/Developer: 8x10 Efke 25/Divided Pyrocat MC

[z_photo]

Is it even possible to ever take a BAD shot of a bottle of Talisker?

Cheers, Richard

perhaps if it is filled with something else? that just might yield a bad shot.

[Scott Walker]

http://jaydecker.com/img/s10/v18/p894675993-4.jpg

Rectory Courtyard in Abiquiú, NM
Lens/Camera: Voigtlander Petzval/8x10 Kodak 2D
Film/Developer: 8x10 Efke 25/Divided Pyrocat MC

Very Nice!

[Jay Decker]

Very Nice!

Thanks Scott!

[Michael Wynd]

Love that shot Jay.
Mike

[eddie]

Rectory Courtyard in Abiquiú, NM
Lens/Camera: Voigtlander Petzval/8x10 Kodak 2D
Film/Developer: 8x10 Efke 25/Divided Pyrocat MC

nice! how did you convince it to stay still?

[goamules]

Couple of images taken with a Derogy 5.5 inch petzval f3

Nice to see some more color work. Good ones Jon!

[Jay Decker]

nice! how did you convince it to stay still?

Stood there a long time with the bulb in my hand... waiting. The felt lull that accompanies the shift of a breeze from one direction to another, squeezed the bulb as fast and hard as I could, and you see the reward...

[Jim Galli]

4 new ones done with a 12" f5.6 B&L Projection Petzval


http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/MsclPetzvals/12BLPetzvalf6/GrassesSwirl12BLPetzS.jpg
grasses swirl

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/MsclPetzvals/12BLPetzvalf6/TreesSwirl12BLPetzS.jpg
trees swirl

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/MsclPetzvals/12BLPetzvalf6/Model_A12BLPetzS.jpg
Model A

http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/MsclPetzvals/12BLPetzvalf6/DustyRoad12BLPetzS.jpg
dusty roads
Here is an unusual shot for a petzval showing a landscape capture.

[Hovmod]

Oh, that dusty road is really good! Yum.

[Jay Decker]

4 new ones done with a 12" f5.6 B&L Projection Petzval
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Here is an unusual shot for a petzval showing a landscape capture.

Got to love it when you break the rules with such fine images... superb work Jim!

[Jim Galli]

Got to love it when you break the rules with such fine images... superb work Jim!


Oh, that dusty road is really good! Yum.

Thanks!

[Ramiro Elena]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/5109647865_978628f0da_b.jpg

[monkeymon]

4 new ones done with a 12" f5.6 B&L Projection Petzval
dusty roads
Here is an unusual shot for a petzval showing a landscape capture.


this is good, nice work!

[David Aimone]

ramiroelena, that's a wild effect with the rectangular shapes, especially in the upper left!

[Ramiro Elena]

This lens just swirls like crazy.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1065/5110245728_8640e22397_z.jpg

[mdm]

this is good, nice work!

I think so too because it dosent rely on gimicks, and the dust gives it a special feeling.

David

[Jon Wilson]

First effort with a HBH petzval, first effort printing the 8x10 negative with the 8x10 Durst. Thoughts and comments welcomed. Here is Pipes #3. Jon

[Jon Wilson]

Here is a link to some images taken with various petzvals.....the most recent ones were taken at Yellowstone a couple of weeks ago.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11847338
Jon

[Stephane]

Krantz Braunschweig 240mm/4.5

Ola
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/5147040184_051d940d32_b.jpg

[Andrew Plume]

Hi Stephane

...........another highly impressive portrait photo, excellent

best regards


andrew

[Andrew Plume]

This lens just swirls like crazy.



...............great stuff - any manufacturer's name on this petzval or is it an unnamed one?


andrew

[Ramiro Elena]

Thanks, this one is a Hermagis 140mm (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rabato/5057031840/).

[Jay Decker]

http://webpages.charter.net/monkeytumble/lensboards/Scan-101206-0001.jpg

Bedtime for Lauren and Big Bear
Lens: Dallmeyer 3B @ f/11
Camera/Lens: 8x10 Century Universal
Film: 8x10 FP4+
Developer: XTOL 1:1

[Jim Galli]

Bedtime for Lauren and Big Bear
Lens: Dallmeyer 3B @ f/11
Camera/Lens: 8x10 Century Universal
Film: 8x10 FP4+
Developer: XTOL 1:1

The quality here is just spectacular. I have to admit I'm a sucker for the 'straight' petzval shots too. This was exactly what the lens was sold to do.

[Jay Decker]

The quality here is just spectacular. I have to admit I'm a sucker for the 'straight' petzval shots too. This was exactly what the lens was sold to do.

Thanks Jim.

Admittedly, the first thing I did with a Petzval lens was to make images with so much swirl that viewers had vertigo. After a half-dozen swirly images, I climbed off the one-trick pony and started working with better Petzval lenses to make better photographs. I soon found Petzval’s produce a lovely out of focus rendering with a unique character. That OOF rending transitions smoothly from the first hint of blur to total “goo” for objects far out of focus. And while it is still fun to see the just hint of swirl in some glittering highlights of an image, I think I’m done making swirlies…

[goamules]

Quarterplate wetplate collodion w/ Lerebours et Secretan petzval.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5281/5257209687_7722bc0816.jpg

Larger (http://bighugelabs.com/onblack.php?id=5257209687&posted=1&size=large)on black

[Emil Schildt]

... I think I’m done making swirlies…

I'm not...

I like it sometimes - sometimes not...

here's a couple of mine:
Gandolfi 12x16 - huge Kranz 16.5" petzval.
Contact copy.


Stine:
http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/4/8/8/7/stine2.jpg

Rita:
http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/4/8/8/7/rita2.jpg

and the camera/lens:

[Jay Decker]

These are superb! Please keep making them, I sure enjoy viewing them!



... I think I’m done making swirlies…I'm not...

I like it sometimes - sometimes not...

here's a couple of mine:
Gandolfi 12x16 - huge Kranz 16.5" petzval.
Contact copy.

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and the camera/lens:

[MFFOODCO888]

My daughter and son

[MFFOODCO888]

Why not pictures?

[MFFOODCO888]

Hello everybody!
I am from Shanghai, China, my daughter and son. . . . . (sold to me by the eddie petzval shooting)

[MFFOODCO888]

sold to me by the eddie petzval shooting

[kev curry]

These are really great Eddie petzval shots MFFOODCO888!

''Eddie Petzval Gunks''...looks like a new nick name to me;-)

[MFFOODCO888]

Sorry. I do not understand English. Google automatic translation only:D

[kev curry]

MFFOODCO888. Very good photographs;-)

[eddie]

Hello everybody!
I am from Shanghai, China, my daughter and son. . . . . (sold to me by the eddie petzval shooting)


har har har. and NO, i am not selling any sons or daughters.....:)

great images. keep posting.

eddie

[MFFOODCO888]

eddie:

I have been shooting more than a decade 12x20-inch camera. . . . Lens is used computar 305mm F9; protar V 305mm F18; protar IV 386mm F12.5; collinear III NO8 440mm F7.7; 600C.
This is my first time using petzval lens, the camera is 5X7 inches. There are two other ROSS petzval 210mm F2.2 lens and Voigtlander 5B.

[ustas]

Hello everybody!
I am from Shanghai, China, my daughter and son. . . . . (sold to me by the eddie petzval shooting)

LOL! Well Eddie (petzval shooting), that`s a crime, isn`t it?:eek:

P.S. Very nice kids and pictures!

[MFFOODCO888]

eddie:

Haha, you are mistaken, I'm not angry. I read your chats. . . You Chinese people are very friendly! I like you. And you say that you simply want more help, more advice. . . A pleasure to interact with you

[vlcak]

noname 210mm petzval, f11
5x7 foma 100 / fomatone 542

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_m0WwPG8F3xE/TTMc0HaatNI/AAAAAAAACFY/NZC58ZbFcAg/s720/img006.jpg

[walter23]

Heh, there's such a dramatic difference in the OOF areas in that upper right where the fence break is that I thought it was a cut-out "zoom" you'd pasted in with photoshop at first.

[Ramiro Elena]

Now that I look at it, I would have thought so too. It is a pretty wild lens.

[GSX4]

I've shot this bottle a few times in the past, but this was a test of new UV lighting and also a low ether collodion.... So far so good. Whole Plate Collodion on Aluminum Shot with Kodak 2D 8x10 and 9" Darlot lantern lens. Exposure was 7 seconds @ F4 using 1 Interfit SC655 lamp head with all 6 bulbs lit and a reflector.