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Leonard Alecu
10-Mar-2009, 14:08
Carl Zeiss Jena Apo Planar 1:10 f=1050 mm

Any information’s about this lens?
Thank you!

erie patsellis
10-Mar-2009, 15:11
Horrible lens, best used as a doorstop, and I happen to have an open door here that it can hold open.

Ken Lee
10-Mar-2009, 15:50
It looks like a high quality copy lens for a large graphic arts camera, like those used in the printing business.

Highly color corrected (Apochromatic)

Flat field (Planar).

In barrel (no shutter), in box.

It probably has enormous coverage. If my camera had enough bellows draw, I'd buy it.

CCHarrison
10-Mar-2009, 15:50
42" Process lens at f/10. Covers 24x36 inches !

Jim Galli
10-Mar-2009, 16:08
You will need 42 inches of bellow extension to focus at infinity, 84 inches for a 1:1 head on an 11X14, so, what good is it? A real pretty door stop. Or a 'mine is bigger than yours' argument finisher.

erie patsellis
10-Mar-2009, 16:46
unless, one has a 16x20 or larger camera with 48" of bellows, and the motivation to add a supplementary track and bellows extension (a la Sinar).

Leonard, out of curiosity, how many sheckels would it take to own such an efficient and worthy doorstop?

Archphoto
10-Mar-2009, 18:31
Love to put it on my Sinar 8x10.....

Peter

Joerg Krusche
11-Mar-2009, 01:02
Leonard,

I have quite nice a collection of Carl Zeiss repro lenses ... and this uncoated Apo Planar would fit nicely .. also to compare to the Apo Germinars .. if you considered to sell .. I would be interested.

Best regards,

Joerg

Leonard Alecu
11-Mar-2009, 12:57
Hello,
Thank you all for the answers!
I don't want to sell the lens, just to collect more info.


I also have the apo germinar/apo ronar/apo artar of 1000/1050 mm. But this lens is very different from a dialyt lens.

worm regards

Ken Lee
11-Mar-2009, 13:39
Love to put it on my Sinar 8x10.....

Peter

Peter:

Do you use multiple bellows, or is the 8x10 bellows already quite long ? How long a lens can you use with the Sinar 8x10 bellows ?

I have been seriously thinking of purchasing a kit to shoot 8x10 on my Sinar. It's a way to solve the affordable scanner problem, once and for all !

Arne Croell
11-Mar-2009, 14:23
Carl Zeiss Jena Apo Planar 1:10 f=1050 mm

Any information’s about this lens?
Thank you!
Made in 1939, one of 50 ever made. There were also 1300 and 1700mm Apo-Planars...

Leonard Alecu
14-Mar-2009, 09:07
Thank you Arne Croell! Do you know is some of them was coated?
Yours,
Leonard

Daniel Unkefer
14-Mar-2009, 13:09
I have a 59cm Zeiss Apo-Planar, and it is superb. Use it for portraiture in 8x10 on my Sinar Norma. And Yes, it is very different from the Rodenstock Apo-Ronars, I have those, in barrel, from 150mm to 600mm. It is not a dialyte type of design.

Archphoto
14-Mar-2009, 13:48
To be honnest...... my Sinar 8x10 P2 goes to 2x30cm monorail, beyond that I will have to buy some parts: more monorail and at least one standard (F) so I can mount the 4x5" bellows to the 8x10" bellows.

If you realy want to long with the Sinar, and you can, you need a setup with 2 monorail supports, Sinar has that part.

I realy never thought of mounting anything bigger than a 480mm on that camera, it is mostly used at 4x5" with 4x5" rear standard frame and bag-bellows for my wide angles.

Peter

Peter De Smidt
15-Mar-2009, 10:02
Sinar also made a special 8x10 to 5x7 bellows. That way for really long lens use, you could use a sinar P 8x10/4x5 front, a 5x7" bellows, a 5x7 F standard for joining the bellows, a 5x7 to 8x10 bellows, and an 8x10 rear standard and frame. The problem with this setup is that some of the parts are hard and expensive to come by.

I have used the setup that Archphoto talks about, basically the same setup just described but with 4x5 bellows and f-standard. It works fine as long as you don't need a tremendous amount of movements.

If you do ever use such a huge extension, make sure to use a lens shade as there will probably be a ton of light bouncing around the bellows otherwise.

Daniel Unkefer
15-Mar-2009, 15:35
To use my 590mm Zeiss Apo-Planar on my 8x10 Sinar Norma, I put together the 8x10 Norma Bellows, to Norma Intermediate Standard, to Norma Front standard, with the 4x5 Norma Bellows. Works great for close-shooting, no problems at all. Use the Norma shutter, my Apo-Planar has been forward-mounted, so it works just great in barrel mount.

Mark Sampson
16-Mar-2009, 04:48
The late German photographer Reinhart Wolf used a setup like that to photograph the tops of skyscrapers for his book "New York", published about 25 years ago. There's an illustration of his gear in the book- almost as impressive as his pictures. If you like long lenses and big cameras, find yourself a copy .

Arne Croell
20-Mar-2009, 12:42
Thank you Arne Croell! Do you know is some of them was coated?
Yours,
Leonard
There were the last 5 made in 1945, these could have been coated.

daytona
10-Jul-2011, 09:57
My friend just bought this!