Large Format Landscapes

[SMBooth]

Great image Alex

[Pfiltz]

5x4 foma, 1 hour stand Rodinal.

http://www.keepsakephotography.us/4x5/wheat.jpg

[klocksib]

Wow, that contrast is fantastic Pflitz. Very vivid, and crisp.

What does stand developing do for an image as opposed to standard agitated developing?

[Pfiltz]

What does stand developing do for an image as opposed to standard agitated developing?

Ummm,, to be honest, I'm not sure, short of not having to blow my highlights due to over agitation. I've only been messing with film now for a year or so. This is a straight scan. No post work at all short of removing a dust spot. Some of the more seasoned guys/gals might be able to help answer your question.

I don't have to worry about chemical temps either. 100:1 ratio, place the film in, pour in the soup, agitate maybe 4 times, and just let it sit. I found this article around 2 months ago, so I thought I would try it.

http://jbhildebrand.com/2011/tutorials/workflow-tutorial-2-stand-development-with-rodinal/

[Jmarmck]

Have you tried this with D-76?

[hazardsg]

116646
Toyo 45A
Fujinon 400T
f/45 1/2 sec

[skiers4life]

(Cross posted on FM

Here is an image from Indian Flats Falls in Great Smoky Mountains National Park. It's a beautiful set of falls located about 4 miles from the trailhead. I had the perfect day for it...overcast just following a rain. Under these conditions the greens in the park can really take on a surreal color.

While they are beautiful to look at, I find the falls a bit difficult to photograph. To the left of the falls is a very dark cave and I have yet to find a composition that does not include this cave. Even on color negative film, you'll notice that the cave is completely black and several areas of the falls are completely blown. Quite honestly, I'm not too bothered by this, but maybe next time I'll shoot it on Ilford Delta 100 and see if that gets it all...I'm pretty sure it will.

This was shot on 4x5 Kodak Ektar 100. Exposure was two and a half minutes at f/32; I used a warming polarizer to help give it some life in the overcast weather. Scanned on an Epson V700. C&C welcome and appreciated.


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3861/14408647422_09dd8e4b43_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nXf5Ty)
Indian-Flats-Falls002-copy (https://flic.kr/p/nXf5Ty)
by skiers4life (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[StoneNYC]

(Cross posted on FM

Here is an image from Indian Flats Falls in Great Smoky Mountains National Park. It's a beautiful set of falls located about 4 miles from the trailhead. I had the perfect day for it...overcast just following a rain. Under these conditions the greens in the park can really take on a surreal color.

While they are beautiful to look at, I find the falls a bit difficult to photograph. To the left of the falls is a very dark cave and I have yet to find a composition that does not include this cave. Even on color negative film, you'll notice that the cave is completely black and several areas of the falls are completely blown. Quite honestly, I'm not too bothered by this, but maybe next time I'll shoot it on Ilford Delta 100 and see if that gets it all...I'm pretty sure it will.

This was shot on 4x5 Kodak Ektar 100. Exposure was two and a half minutes at f/32; I used a warming polarizer to help give it some life in the overcast weather. Scanned on an Epson V700. C&C welcome and appreciated.


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3861/14408647422_09dd8e4b43_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nXf5Ty)
Indian-Flats-Falls002-copy (https://flic.kr/p/nXf5Ty)
by skiers4life (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

I like that you included the foreground rocks, it's not a choice I probably would have made but it works really well here.

[pdmoylan]

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https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3861/14408647422_09dd8e4b43_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nXf5Ty)
Indian-Flats-Falls002-copy (https://flic.kr/p/nXf5Ty)
by skiers4life (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr[/QUOTE]

Nice Image with good composition and exposure.

The challenge is the shadow area to the left where you lose all detail other than the water. I might have chosen different lighting circumstances where that area is more illuminated. Otherwise, a slightly longer lens and vertical shot focusing using the same foreground and focusing on the two spills where shadow details are not an issue.

Thanks for sharing.

PDM

[sdzsdz]

Here another shot from near to my home:

Tachihara 4x5, Ektar 100, 75mm SA, NDG, Epson V700

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2915/14239076447_465975ee7a_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14239076447/)
An ordinary landscape 3 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14239076447/) von sdzsdz (https://www.flickr.com/people/88626385@N03/) auf Flickr

[StoneNYC]

Here another shot from near to my home:

Tachihara 4x5, Ektar 100, 75mm SA, NDG, Epson V700

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2915/14239076447_465975ee7a_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14239076447/)
An ordinary landscape 3 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14239076447/) von sdzsdz (https://www.flickr.com/people/88626385@N03/) auf Flickr

I love the mist off of the islands in the background, this is a nice shot, did you happen to shoot something like a 300mm or 450mm on those islands? The must is so peaceful :)

I also love the Lilly pads in this image, ties it together in a way.

[Erik Larsen]

116780A hazy rainy day overlooking the Green river in Utah. 4x10 FP4,305 graphic kowa f32 printed on MG classic.

[h2oman]

That's really nice, Erik. The White Rim lives up to its name!

[StoneNYC]

116780A hazy rainy day overlooking the Green river in Utah. 4x10 FP4,305 graphic kowa f32 printed on MG classic.

Wow that is a great shot!! Really great capture!

[Erik Larsen]

Thanks guys!

[Greg Y]

Great shot Erik! BTW thanks for the drymount press...it's in a happy home....big beast that it is.

[abhishek@1985]

Newbie in large format learning with Joel's Tachihara.Can't thank him enough ...

Water of the first Spring(North Minnesota) :-

Tachihara 4x5 with 180mm Nikkor
Ilford Delta 100
Rodinal 1:100 for 1 hour (stand development)
Scanned with Epson v750

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/6/2/5/2/3/north_stream_-_1.jpg

[Erik Larsen]

Great shot Erik! BTW thanks for the drymount press...it's in a happy home....big beast that it is.

Just glad it didn't burn down your home:)

[skiers4life]

Ferns and a Fallen Tree, 4x5 Fuji Velvia 50

I'm quite proud of this exposure. When I was in the Smokies a few weeks back, it was an overcast day following rain...the greens were out of this world. I passed this particularly vivid spot on my hike it, but decided to photograph it on my way out if I had time. A few hours later, the clouds were beginning to break. I came back to this spot and set up my camera as fast as I ever have. I quickly metered for around 2 minutes (with polarizer) and opened the shutter. I could tell that it wouldn't last the full 2 minutes before my scene was in direct sunlight though...the clouds were moving quickly. I watched as the bright sun made its way toward my through the forest. About a minute in, the first bits of light hit the right side of my composition. I closed the shutter and mourned the loss of a sheet of precious Velvia. Later on the hike I decided I would have the lab push it a stop just for giggles; I'd never done that with Velvia. When the transparency returned, I was blown away...perfect exposure!


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3842/14437611211_be2689c0b1_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nZNwPe)
Indian-Flats-Falls004-copy (https://flic.kr/p/nZNwPe) by skiers4life (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[StoneNYC]

Ferns and a Fallen Tree, 4x5 Fuji Velvia 50

I'm quite proud of this exposure. When I was in the Smokies a few weeks back, it was an overcast day following rain...the greens were out of this world. I passed this particularly vivid spot on my hike it, but decided to photograph it on my way out if I had time. A few hours later, the clouds were beginning to break. I came back to this spot and set up my camera as fast as I ever have. I quickly metered for around 2 minutes (with polarizer) and opened the shutter. I could tell that it wouldn't last the full 2 minutes before my scene was in direct sunlight though...the clouds were moving quickly. I watched as the bright sun made its way toward my through the forest. About a minute in, the first bits of light hit the right side of my composition. I closed the shutter and mourned the loss of a sheet of precious Velvia. Later on the hike I decided I would have the lab push it a stop just for giggles; I'd never done that with Velvia. When the transparency returned, I was blown away...perfect exposure!


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3842/14437611211_be2689c0b1_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nZNwPe)
Indian-Flats-Falls004-copy (https://flic.kr/p/nZNwPe) by skiers4life (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

I use a polarizer a lot for scenes with Velvia50, but why in this shot?

[Vaughn]

Stone -- some folks use a polarizer to eliminate some of the blue light from the sky being reflected off of foliage. In the image above, it probably helped to maintain the yellow-green on the ferns.

[skiers4life]

I use a polarizer a lot for scenes with Velvia50, but why in this shot?

I used it for two reasons in this scene. First, I wanted to knock out any reflections on the ferns. Even though it was overcast, there were still some shiny areas, and the polarizer helped maximize the green saturation by cutting out all reflections. Second, my polarizer is the warming kind so I used it to make sure I compensated for the cloudy conditions. My polarizer is pretty much on my lens all the time if there are leaves or water in the scene.

[Gary Tarbert]

Ferns and a Fallen Tree, 4x5 Fuji Velvia 50

I'm quite proud of this exposure. When I was in the Smokies a few weeks back, it was an overcast day following rain...the greens were out of this world. I passed this particularly vivid spot on my hike it, but decided to photograph it on my way out if I had time. A few hours later, the clouds were beginning to break. I came back to this spot and set up my camera as fast as I ever have. I quickly metered for around 2 minutes (with polarizer) and opened the shutter. I could tell that it wouldn't last the full 2 minutes before my scene was in direct sunlight though...the clouds were moving quickly. I watched as the bright sun made its way toward my through the forest. About a minute in, the first bits of light hit the right side of my composition. I closed the shutter and mourned the loss of a sheet of precious Velvia. Later on the hike I decided I would have the lab push it a stop just for giggles; I'd never done that with Velvia. When the transparency returned, I was blown away...perfect exposure!


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3842/14437611211_be2689c0b1_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nZNwPe)
Indian-Flats-Falls004-copy (https://flic.kr/p/nZNwPe) by skiers4life (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr So glad you got the result you were after this sort of shot just reminds me why i like Velvia so much , It just has that something ,No other film or digital sensor for that matter has .Enjoyed the view . Cheers Gary

[Gary Tarbert]

Newbie in large format learning with Joel's Tachihara.Can't thank him enough ...

Water of the first Spring(North Minnesota) :-

Tachihara 4x5 with 180mm Nikkor
Ilford Delta 100
Rodinal 1:100 for 1 hour (stand development)
Scanned with Epson v750

http://www.apug.org/gallery1/files/6/2/5/2/3/north_stream_-_1.jpg Really great stuff like that you havn't blown the detail in the water . keep it up my first LF was Tachi 4x5 as Well ,Great camera . Cheers Gary

[Toyon]

Have you tried this with D-76?

For stand development to work, you need to use a compensating developer. That means that the developer molecules adjacent to the lightly exposed areas of the negative will continue to work at development, while the molecules adjacent to the highly exposed areas of the negative will be exhausted. The result will be a decrease in contrast between the highlights and the dark areas of the print. Still development does not work with highly active developers. It works best with compensating developers that are highly diluted such as Rodinal 1:100 - 1:300. But there is a cost for compensation and still development. The micro-contrast of the print is dulled. So while overall a highly contrasty scene may have been made printable without excessive highlight or shadows, many low-contrast areas can become muddy and uninteresting. This is not dissimilar to what happens in Zone development.

[StoneNYC]

Stone -- some folks use a polarizer to eliminate some of the blue light from the sky being reflected off of foliage. In the image above, it probably helped to maintain the yellow-green on the ferns.


I used it for two reasons in this scene. First, I wanted to knock out any reflections on the ferns. Even though it was overcast, there were still some shiny areas, and the polarizer helped maximize the green saturation by cutting out all reflections. Second, my polarizer is the warming kind so I used it to make sure I compensated for the cloudy conditions. My polarizer is pretty much on my lens all the time if there are leaves or water in the scene.

OH!!! I had never thought of that! Luckily I always use my polarizer for most work as most color work is landscape with water or sky so cutting down on haze or reflection, but I hadn't thought about the blue cast, or known about it being part of what polarizers eliminate, but that makes sense.

The only scene I think I did NOT use a polarizer was this image, of corse it took horrible notes at the time (I'm better now) and so I can't be sure...but with the amount of reflection, I believe I did not, the sad part is I was shooting side by side comparisons using my 6x7 as well so I used the polarizer on one of them I think... I haven't scanned those yet as they just came back from the lab, but appear to be stronger in saturation with less reflection (yet the same film) but I would like to look full screen side by side before making a statement, but this is the only image I think I did NOT use a polarizer with E-6 sheet film.

116869

[abhishek@1985]

Really great stuff like that you havn't blown the detail in the water . keep it up my first LF was Tachi 4x5 as Well ,Great camera . Cheers Gary

Hi Gary,

Least to say I am highly honoured and privileged.
It was my second shoot with the 4x5 and first ever development. Am super excited to see the pictuire come through. I was sure I must have screwed it up in so many ways possible in 4x5 shootout.
Glad to have an experienced guy like Joel Truckenbrod by side to help with the details ..
Large format is very addictive!!!! I might end up selling all my hasselblad medium format gear for a large format gear set :)

Regards,
Abhishek

[Vaughn]

OH!!! I had never thought of that! ...

As I understand it:

If the sun is not shining down on the scene, giving everything it's warmer light, the primary cast of the light coming down from the sky on a scene is blue, perhaps a little less so on overcast days. So light reflecting off of leaves will have a lot of blue in it. Polarizing and eliminating a lot of the reflected light off the leaves thus reduces the blue light bouncing off the leaves towards the lens. Funny how our brains tends to ignore this blue light when we are out there and tend not to notice it -- but notice it in the print.

[StoneNYC]

As I understand it:

If the sun is not shining down on the scene, giving everything it's warmer light, the primary cast of the light coming down from the sky on a scene is blue, perhaps a little less so on overcast days. So light reflecting off of leaves will have a lot of blue in it. Polarizing and eliminating a lot of the reflected light off the leaves thus reduces the blue light bouncing off the leaves towards the lens. Funny how our brains tends to ignore this blue light when we are out there and tend not to notice it -- but notice it in the print.

Very true, and I always forget, the fun trick is to cover one eye for a minute or two, then uncover it, and you'll see the blue (or wherever tone is dominant in the scene) seems to for me, but I've never actually tried this for any kind of color film work, just an observation.

[premortho]

"of course, this is just my opinion. I could be wrong", but I don't think so. The reflection on the water makes the picture, as far as I'm concerned.
OH!!! I had never thought of that! Luckily I always use my polarizer for most work as most color work is landscape with water or sky so cutting down on haze or reflection, but I hadn't thought about the blue cast, or known about it being part of what polarizers eliminate, but that makes sense.

The only scene I think I did NOT use a polarizer was this image, of corse it took horrible notes at the time (I'm better now) and so I can't be sure...but with the amount of reflection, I believe I did not, the sad part is I was shooting side by side comparisons using my 6x7 as well so I used the polarizer on one of them I think... I haven't scanned those yet as they just came back from the lab, but appear to be stronger in saturation with less reflection (yet the same film) but I would like to look full screen side by side before making a statement, but this is the only image I think I did NOT use a polarizer with E-6 sheet film.

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[skiers4life]

The reflection on the water makes the picture, as far as I'm concerned.

I agree. This is probably a rare case where I would leave a polarizer off. You've really picked up great tones in the reflection of the sky which makes the image here.

[StoneNYC]

"of course, this is just my opinion. I could be wrong", but I don't think so. The reflection on the water makes the picture, as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks both of you, I agree, and I think that reflection was why I didn't use it :)

Thanks!

[premortho]

Stone, That was nice of you, your response. I would have been a little more humble by adding the words "like to" between "I" and "think." It's funnier that way. And maybe more truthful.
Thanks both of you, I agree, and I think that reflection was why I didn't use it :)

Thanks!

[StoneNYC]

Stone, That was nice of you, your response. I would have been a little more humble by adding the words "like to" between "I" and "think." It's funnier that way. And maybe more truthful.

My apologies, I was simply trying to indicate that I couldn't remember, but I think that's why I did it, as I'm at least somewhat capable of pre-visualization, I wasn't trying to be pompous, or arrogant, I was more just being factual about it all, sorry that didn't come through in text :(

[premortho]

My goodness, no apology neccessary. It isn't that big of a deal. Perhaps I should apologise to you. That was meant as a little tongue-in-cheek.
My apologies, I was simply trying to indicate that I couldn't remember, but I think that's why I did it, as I'm at least somewhat capable of pre-visualization, I wasn't trying to be pompous, or arrogant, I was more just being factual about it all, sorry that didn't come through in text :(

[StoneNYC]

My goodness, no apology neccessary. It isn't that big of a deal. Perhaps I should apologise to you. That was meant as a little tongue-in-cheek.

I think neither should apologize, maybe the internet should apologize for not being better about "verbal context" haha :) be well.

[Holdenrichards]

http://u1.ipernity.com/20/12/69/33341269.29dfe41b.640.jpg

This is Linville Falls in the mountains of North Carolina. I hiked down the narrow trail
with my 8x10 and made this image.

1897 Ak-Sar-Ben Camera - Repromaster 210mm - Arista Edu 100 - HC110 1+100 - Unaltered Negative Scan

[SergeyT]

"Unaltered Negative Scan" :cool:

[Holdenrichards]

"Unaltered Negative Scan" :cool:

True statement that. Except for what the scanner did. There is a bit of flare on the far right that I burned in on the print.

[Dave Wooten]

Any movements with the repro lens?

[Andrew Plume]

good work Holden, good work

it would be good to see a photo or two of the Camera that you used for this image

thanks and regards

andrew

[Andrew Plume]

Hi Holden

and I've now found a couple of photos of this Camera on your 'ipernity' site

some very decent work on there, standout image for me is on p10 on that site, third from the bottom - you should post it on here

regards

andrew

[Holdenrichards]

Any movements with the repro lens?

Serious back tilt to straighten the view vertically, and pointing the camera itself waaaaay down

[Holdenrichards]

Hi Holden

and I've now found a couple of photos of this Camera on your 'ipernity' site

some very decent work on there, standout image for me is on p10 on that site, third from the bottom - you should post it on here

regards

andrew


Thanks for looking, I just finished a course in view camera and radically changed my exposure habits so the newer photos going forward will be better I think

[John Kasaian]

Hello Holden. I really enjoyed your albums on iperity. Thanks for sharing!

[Holdenrichards]

Hello Holden. I really enjoyed your albums on iperity. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for looking!

[Pfiltz]

Beating the rain..

4x5 Velvia 100

http://www.keepsakephotography.us/4x5/Slide-Wheat.jpg

[Sart_S]

The Dnieper River,Morning...
Pinhole camera Homemade 4x5.Fomapan 100(9x12).

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-X-LGlOzMakU/U67OIMW6VII/AAAAAAAABrI/XtvIxO1bhoI/w934-h701-no/25062014_2P.jpg

[ALVANDI Camera]

Poplar in Firuzkuh county
Iran, Tehran, Firuzkuh, Panoral 45 handmade camera, Nikkor-W 150/5.6, Fuji Velvia 50, 6x12 roll film
I used Cokin P121M graduated ND filter.
117474

[StoneNYC]

Poplar in Firuzkuh county
Iran, Tehran, Firuzkuh, Panoral 45 handmade camera, Nikkor-W 150/5.6, Fuji Velvia 50, 6x12 roll film
I used Cokin P121M graduated ND filter.
117474

Wow! Again just a gorgeous spot, had no idea that parts of Iran could be so beautiful, just wonderful!

[Deval]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3906/14341762000_9eaaf17130_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nRkhbC)Happy Isles (https://flic.kr/p/nRkhbC) by DevalJoshi (https://www.flickr.com/people//)

Happy Isles - Yosemite National Park
Toyo 45aII
Fuji Velvia 100
F32/5sec
Filters-B+W Circular Polarizer,81B

[Heroique]

Happy Isles - Yosemite National Park.

Nice shot.

Looks like a fork in the creek ahead.

I'd probably take the one less travelled by. :D

[StoneNYC]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3906/14341762000_9eaaf17130_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nRkhbC)Happy Isles (https://flic.kr/p/nRkhbC) by DevalJoshi (https://www.flickr.com/people//)

Happy Isles - Yosemite National Park
Toyo 45aII
Fuji Velvia 100
F32/5sec
Filters-B+W Circular Polarizer,81B

This is just lovely!! :)


Nice shot.

Looks like a fork in the creek ahead.

I'd probably take the one less travelled by. :D

Seems not many understand that poem, remember that it was ONLY after taking the path and looking back that he realized it was the one less traveled...

[alexn]

Beating the rain..

4x5 Velvia 100

http://www.keepsakephotography.us/4x5/Slide-Wheat.jpg
This is fantastic use of large format's ability to render tiny details.. It must look amazing in print! :)



https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3906/14341762000_9eaaf17130_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nRkhbC)Happy Isles (https://flic.kr/p/nRkhbC) by DevalJoshi (https://www.flickr.com/people//)

Happy Isles - Yosemite National Park
Toyo 45aII
Fuji Velvia 100
F32/5sec
Filters-B+W Circular Polarizer,81B

This is also brilliant, and both are a real testament to Velvia 100.. Not many people are prepared to give it time of day next to RVP50 but these two images both show it can be every bit as amazing!

[Deval]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3878/14530648931_a0fe66b8e2_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/o92nFR)Tenaya Lake (https://flic.kr/p/o92nFR) by DevalJoshi (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Toyo 45aII
Rodenstock 150 Sironar-S
F16, 11min56sec
Fuji Velvia 100
6x9 Crop
Filters:Lee Little Stopper(ND6), 81B

This one was a memorable shot, and not for the reasons you might think. I swung by Tenaya Lake near sunset. Apparently there are are ton of mosquitos at Tenaya Lake in Yosemite this time of year in the high country. They are completely immune to the effects of bug spray. We found one way to avoid being bit is to continuously move around, flapping your arms(creating air currents around you).
So I set up the tripod, put the camera up, inserted the lens(flapping my hands to get the mosquitos out of the bellows), focused under the dark cloth(getting bit to no end). I metered the shot at ISO 100 with an ND6 and 81b(which may have been unnecessary). I was running around like a madman(literally).As I was calculating exposure for what highlights would end up in zone 7 with ND6 and 81b and adding reciprocity for velvia 100, my wife rightly decided to bail on me and find shelter in the car from the horde of mosquitos(literally 100s per square meter). I clicked the shutter on T, ran around like a flapping madman, came back 11 minutes later, stopped the shutter, inserted the dark slide, grabbed the camera and lf, and did a 1000 yard dash for the car as if was running from a bear.

I'm glad the shot came out, but even if it didn't, the memory of what it took to get the shot was worth it :)
PS:Appears much sharper in Flickr than on forum

[ALVANDI Camera]

Thanks, StoneNYC

[ALVANDI Camera]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3878/14530648931_a0fe66b8e2_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/o92nFR)Tenaya Lake (https://flic.kr/p/o92nFR) by DevalJoshi (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Toyo 45aII
Rodenstock 150 Sironar-S
F16, 11min56sec
Fuji Velvia 100
6x9 Crop
Filters:Lee Little Stopper(ND6), 81B

This one was a memorable shot, and not for the reasons you might think. I swung by Tenaya Lake near sunset. Apparently there are are ton of mosquitos at Tenaya Lake in Yosemite this time of year in the high country. They are completely immune to the effects of bug spray. We found one way to avoid being bit is to continuously move around, flapping your arms(creating air currents around you).
So I set up the tripod, put the camera up, inserted the lens(flapping my hands to get the mosquitos out of the bellows), focused under the dark cloth(getting bit to no end). I metered the shot at ISO 100 with an ND6 and 81b(which may have been unnecessary). I was running around like a madman(literally).As I was calculating exposure for what highlights would end up in zone 7 with ND6 and 81b and adding reciprocity for velvia 100, my wife rightly decided to bail on me and find shelter in the car from the horde of mosquitos(literally 100s per square meter). I clicked the shutter on T, ran around like a flapping madman, came back 11 minutes later, stopped the shutter, inserted the dark slide, grabbed the camera and lf, and did a 1000 yard dash for the car as if was running from a bear.

I'm glad the shot came out, but even if it didn't, the memory of what it took to get the shot was worth it :)
PS:Appears much sharper in Flickr than on forum

Fantastic image

[finarphin]

Compared to Happy Isles, there is a lot of red in Tenaya Lake. Did you want that much red in it?

[Heroique]

Seems not many understand that poem, remember that it was ONLY after taking the path and looking back that he realized it was the one less traveled…

If you're talking about Frost, you've missed the famous ambiguity, but that's okay, because it can be enjoyed on simple and complex levels. "The Road Not Taken" would be my pick for official poem for LF scouting, whether following paths or creeks!

[Deval]

Compared to Happy Isles, there is a lot of red in Tenaya Lake. Did you want that much red in it?

Fin.thanks for the feedback. Let me rescan it and look at the channels a little bit more carefully...It was taken at a different time of day when pink and red were the predominant wavelengths of light, but I agree, I'd like to see it a little less warm.

[StoneNYC]

If you're talking about Frost, you've missed the famous ambiguity, but that's okay, because it can be enjoyed on simple and complex levels. "The Road Not Taken" would be my pick for official poem for LF scouting, whether following paths or creeks!

Wait you mean I missed it or the original person missed it? Please elaborate, I've always thought I "got it" and most didn't.

[Heroique]

Wait you mean I missed it or the original person missed it? Please elaborate, I've always thought I "got it" and most didn't.

I think you got it in a good way – say, let's quote Frost's brief poem since it will remind many LFers about the landscape-scouting experiences that led to the fine images here:


The Road Not Taken

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

[h2oman]

Both images are very nice, Deval - I'd hang the second on my wall any day. You might try a little less red with the second, as suggested, but it feels right the way it is to me, if the light was perhaps evening light reflected off clouds.

[steveo]

This is the first 5x4 frame I've managed to get from camera to scanner without any handling or exposure issues. After shutter woes and uneven developing I'm happy enough that I've got an image. What I seem to have done is messed it up rather nicely in camera, as is good and proper!

The left side of the frame is oof, I think this is due to the standards not being parallel but if someone could confirm that I'd appreciate it.


https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5504/14359016369_25c86a24f3_b.jpgHarlaw Reservoir Shore 5x4 ('https://flic.kr/p/nSRHiK')
by steveo_mcg ('https://www.flickr.com/people//'), on Flickr

[alexn]

One from the weekend... The weather is getting pretty chilly here... it was 6°C at 0730 when I exposed this..

045N-2 + 210 f/5.6
1/4sec @ f/16
4x5 Fomapan 100 @ 100 (Cropped 6x12)
Rodinal 1:100, 60min, No Agitation.

"Rising Mist"
https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/10380427_792044487512811_4853604174427173876_o.jpg

[Pfiltz]

Thank you Alex. No print yet, but we'll see.

[Martin Aislabie]

This is the first 5x4 frame I've managed to get from camera to scanner without any handling or exposure issues. After shutter woes and uneven developing I'm happy enough that I've got an image. What I seem to have done is messed it up rather nicely in camera, as is good and proper!

The left side of the frame is oof, I think this is due to the standards not being parallel but if someone could confirm that I'd appreciate it.


https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5504/14359016369_25c86a24f3_b.jpgHarlaw Reservoir Shore 5x4 ('https://flic.kr/p/nSRHiK')
by steveo_mcg ('https://www.flickr.com/people//'), on Flickr

Hi Stevo

I'm not sure out of focus left to right is always mis-aligned standards - but its a very good bet.

One of the easiest ways I use to check that the front and rear are parallel is to put the back of the camera back flat down on a horizontal surface and then check the front standard with a spirit level.

The difference between good and just off can be tiny.

Hope this helps

Martin

[Jerry Bodine]

...The left side of the frame is oof, I think this is due to the standards not being parallel but if someone could confirm that I'd appreciate it...

Steveo, if you're fortunate enough to have access to a Versalab Parallel (http://www.versalab.com/server/photo/products/parallel.htm) (normally used for enlarger alignment), it can also be used to very accurately confirm mis-aligned standards. I did this with my 8x10 Sinar Norma. Place the camera on a tabletop, resting on its rear standard, remove the lensboard and carefully place the laser device on the lens side of the groundglass and turn it on, then place one of the Versalab's glass reflectors across the front standard opening (or better, if you have a lensboard with the lens removed, place the reflector across the lens opening). You will see immediately any mis-alignment, as the reflected laser beam will not be centered on the laser source's cross-hairs.

This procedure is made a little easier if your bellows can be removed, as with my Sinar. That allowed me to mount the camera on a tripod and manually hold the laser device against the gg with one hand and hold the reflector in place (without flexing it) with the other hand.

[austin granger]

Mount St. Helens
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3917/14375935629_58b3c714dc_b.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/austingranger/

[Leigh]

Mount St. Helens
Marvelous mid-tones on that one, Austin. It looks alive.

- Leigh

[austin granger]

Marvelous mid-tones on that one, Austin. It looks alive.

- Leigh

That mountain IS alive Leigh. Seriously, thanks.

[steveo]

Hi Stevo

I'm not sure out of focus left to right is always mis-aligned standards - but its a very good bet.

One of the easiest ways I use to check that the front and rear are parallel is to put the back of the camera back flat down on a horizontal surface and then check the front standard with a spirit level.

The difference between good and just off can be tiny.

Hope this helps

Martin


Steveo, if you're fortunate enough to have access to a Versalab Parallel (http://www.versalab.com/server/photo/products/parallel.htm) (normally used for enlarger alignment), it can also be used to very accurately confirm mis-aligned standards. I did this with my 8x10 Sinar Norma. Place the camera on a tabletop, resting on its rear standard, remove the lensboard and carefully place the laser device on the lens side of the groundglass and turn it on, then place one of the Versalab's glass reflectors across the front standard opening (or better, if you have a lensboard with the lens removed, place the reflector across the lens opening). You will see immediately any mis-alignment, as the reflected laser beam will not be centered on the laser source's cross-hairs.

This procedure is made a little easier if your bellows can be removed, as with my Sinar. That allowed me to mount the camera on a tripod and manually hold the laser device against the gg with one hand and hold the reflector in place (without flexing it) with the other hand.

Cheers guys, I've no fancy gear so I'll just have to try and lay the standards with out the bellows and see. I've shot another couple of frames last night so I'll get them in the soup and see how they've turned out.

[JaZ99]

This was shot at the end of May in Tatra Mountains, Poland:
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2926/14542760686_532f94954a_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oa6s6d)
Zielony Staw (https://flic.kr/p/oa6s6d) by JaZ99wro (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Graflex 4x5
Fujinon 105mm
CDU II + 85A filter

[StoneNYC]

This was shot at the end of May in Tatra Mountains, Poland:
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2926/14542760686_532f94954a_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oa6s6d)
Zielony Staw (https://flic.kr/p/oa6s6d) by JaZ99wro (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Graflex 4x5
Fujinon 105mm
CDU II + 85A filter

I've been wondering about this film... Cool!

Too bad there isn't a lot of 8x10 around for cheap like the 4x5 stuff...

[andreios]

This was shot at the end of May in Tatra Mountains, Poland:



Beautiful! I have to visit the Polish side of Tatra mountains one day...

[Tin Can]

Glad you posted the poem.

My memory was served well.

Thank you


I think you got it in a good way – say, let's quote Frost's brief poem since it will remind many LFers about the landscape-scouting experiences that led to the fine images here:


The Road Not Taken

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

[JaZ99]

I've been wondering about this film... Cool!

Too bad there isn't a lot of 8x10 around for cheap like the 4x5 stuff...

Thanks! This is indeed a great film. A little bit too slow, and not daylight balanced, but with excellent latitude.


Beautiful! I have to visit the Polish side of Tatra mountains one day...

You are always welcome! Out part of Tatra mountains are opened full year around, unlike Slovakia part....

[Jeff Dexheimer]

Bunchberries near the Gunflint Trail, North of Grand Marais, MN

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/20790d_32f0fb8356b0407b8dd9c0e771a23271.jpg_400

Technical Information:
-Shen Hao PTB 4x5
-Schneider 65 mm SA
-Delta 100 in Pyrocat HD for 17 min

[sly]

Lovely Jeff!! The trees receding into the mist really invites me in.

[StoneNYC]

Bunchberries near the Gunflint Trail, North of Grand Marais, MN

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/20790d_32f0fb8356b0407b8dd9c0e771a23271.jpg_400

Technical Information:
-Shen Hao PTB 4x5
-Schneider 65 mm SA
-Delta 100 in Pyrocat HD for 17 min

Lovely is right! Wow.

[Jim Noel]

Alex,
Beautiful, soft and appealing. A very pleasant image to have on the wall.

jim

[sdzsdz]

Bunchberries near the Gunflint Trail, North of Grand Marais, MN

Technical Information:
-Shen Hao PTB 4x5
-Schneider 65 mm SA
-Delta 100 in Pyrocat HD for 17 min

Absolutely Beautiful!

[Bob Sawin]

Beautiful image with great tonalities.

[sdzsdz]

Another two from Germany.

Both with Tachihara 4x5, Schneider Super Angulon 75, Velvia 50, Drumscanner Scanmate 11000

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/14597374983_5e52fa1456_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14597374983/)
Very early (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14597374983/) von sdzsdz (https://www.flickr.com/people/88626385@N03/) auf Flickr

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2926/14573917411_7988b50326_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14573917411/)
Light and Tree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14573917411/) von sdzsdz (https://www.flickr.com/people/88626385@N03/) auf Flickr

Best regards,
Sebastian

[StoneNYC]

Another two from Germany.

Both with Tachihara 4x5, Schneider Super Angulon 75, Velvia 50, Drumscanner Scanmate 11000

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/14597374983_5e52fa1456_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14597374983/)
Very early (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14597374983/) von sdzsdz (https://www.flickr.com/people/88626385@N03/) auf Flickr

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2926/14573917411_7988b50326_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14573917411/)
Light and Tree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14573917411/) von sdzsdz (https://www.flickr.com/people/88626385@N03/) auf Flickr

Best regards,
Sebastian

That first one is especially awe-inspiring, I actually really like the center point where there's a tree sticking out a little bit that doesn't have leaves, it's really very interesting and draws you great shot overall.

[premortho]

That first one is especially awe-inspiring, I actually really like the center point where there's a tree sticking out a little bit that doesn't have leaves, it's really very interesting and draws you great shot overall.
I agree, that top one (early morn) is especially stunning.

[ALVANDI Camera]

Another two from Germany.

Both with Tachihara 4x5, Schneider Super Angulon 75, Velvia 50, Drumscanner Scanmate 11000

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/14597374983_5e52fa1456_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14597374983/)
Very early (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14597374983/) von sdzsdz (https://www.flickr.com/people/88626385@N03/) auf Flickr

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2926/14573917411_7988b50326_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14573917411/)
Light and Tree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/88626385@N03/14573917411/) von sdzsdz (https://www.flickr.com/people/88626385@N03/) auf Flickr

Best regards,
Sebastian

Wow, very beatiful, I like it. Good composition and tonality. Thanks, for your post.

[ALVANDI Camera]

Bunchberries near the Gunflint Trail, North of Grand Marais, MN

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/20790d_32f0fb8356b0407b8dd9c0e771a23271.jpg_400

Technical Information:
-Shen Hao PTB 4x5
-Schneider 65 mm SA
-Delta 100 in Pyrocat HD for 17 min

A dream image with good composition, I'm very interested this type of images.

[Jim Cole]

Bunchberries near the Gunflint Trail, North of Grand Marais, MN

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/20790d_32f0fb8356b0407b8dd9c0e771a23271.jpg_400

Technical Information:
-Shen Hao PTB 4x5
-Schneider 65 mm SA
-Delta 100 in Pyrocat HD for 17 min

This one is really well done!

[jp]

Bunchberries near the Gunflint Trail, North of Grand Marais, MN

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/20790d_32f0fb8356b0407b8dd9c0e771a23271.jpg_400

Technical Information:
-Shen Hao PTB 4x5
-Schneider 65 mm SA
-Delta 100 in Pyrocat HD for 17 min

Nice tones. Very much an outdoor cathedral!

[Jmarmck]

Jeff D, That is a wonderful image. I like the fog in the trees.

[alexn]

Alex,
Beautiful, soft and appealing. A very pleasant image to have on the wall.

jim

Thanks Jim... I was very unsure at the time with regards to exposure for this one, I definitely wanted the sun rays through the mist to be particularly bright, but at the same time I didn't want to lose depth in the foreground.. In the end I metered only on the bright patch of water in the lower left of the frame, and the grass at lower right, put zone 5 directly between them and developed in a 1:100 standing solution to try to work out the shadows while retaining all detail in the highlights... I was fairly delighted to see it come out as it did..

Jeff Dexheimer - Beautifully composed and exposed... That's a wall piece for sure.

[Joel Truckenbrod]

Bunchberries near the Gunflint Trail, North of Grand Marais, MN

Technical Information:
-Shen Hao PTB 4x5
-Schneider 65 mm SA
-Delta 100 in Pyrocat HD for 17 min

Well done, Jeff!

[Kevin J. Kolosky]

Bunchberries near the Gunflint Trail, North of Grand Marais, MN

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/20790d_32f0fb8356b0407b8dd9c0e771a23271.jpg_400

Technical Information:
-Shen Hao PTB 4x5
-Schneider 65 mm SA
-Delta 100 in Pyrocat HD for 17 min

Having been on the Gunflint Trail I think this image is wonderful. But I like "Ice Bridge" better

[johnmsanderson]

This is so good.


Bunchberries near the Gunflint Trail, North of Grand Marais, MN

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/20790d_32f0fb8356b0407b8dd9c0e771a23271.jpg_400

Technical Information:
-Shen Hao PTB 4x5
-Schneider 65 mm SA
-Delta 100 in Pyrocat HD for 17 min

[h2oman]

Having been on the Gunflint Trail I think this image is wonderful. But I like "Ice Bridge" better

"Ice Bridge" is wonderful, but so is this one. They are different images, and comparing them isn't really appropriate, in my opinion. Enjoy each for its own merits.

[dynamo]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3912/14595636071_b808c28a1e_c.jpg
Linhof Super Technika V, 4x5, Apo-Ronar 9/300, T-Max 100, Rodinal 1+50, Maximum tilt

[StoneNYC]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3912/14595636071_b808c28a1e_c.jpg
Linhof Super Technika V, 4x5, Apo-Ronar 9/300, T-Max 100, Rodinal 1+50, Maximum tilt

That's pretty awesome! Love how you've followed the bough line. Is that's slightly toned?

[Jmarmck]

Volker, nice work. What is that darker section at the bottom?
I have always had trouble with this kind of shot, close thin matter separated from a dominant background.
Not enough depth, it melts into the background, too much and the background dominates. Tough. You handled it nicely.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3912/14595636071_b808c28a1e_c.jpg
Linhof Super Technika V, 4x5, Apo-Ronar 9/300, T-Max 100, Rodinal 1+50, Maximum tilt

[polyglot]

Bunchberries near the Gunflint Trail, North of Grand Marais, MN

At first I was like, "meh, trees". But the flowers on that ground cover really make this.

[Kevin J. Kolosky]

"Ice Bridge" is wonderful, but so is this one. They are different images, and comparing them isn't really appropriate, in my opinion. Enjoy each for its own merits.

I wasn't comparing them. Rather, I was saying which one I liked better. Nevertheless, based on what I have seen posted with hundreds and hundreds of other images on this site, I believe that when people put their images up here they do so with the expectation that they will receive all sorts of subjective remarks.

[h2oman]

Kevin, if it hasn't happened to you yet, it probably will: You'll create that one image after which your friends and associates will always be saying, "Well, that's pretty nice, but it's not 'Moonrise Over Hernandez' when you show them a new image" After about the hundredth time you hear it you'll understand what I was getting at! :D

[Kevin J. Kolosky]

when you get to my age you don't care about that stuff anymore.

[Harley Goldman]

Bunchberries near the Gunflint Trail, North of Grand Marais, MN

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/20790d_32f0fb8356b0407b8dd9c0e771a23271.jpg_400

Technical Information:
-Shen Hao PTB 4x5
-Schneider 65 mm SA
-Delta 100 in Pyrocat HD for 17 min

Very nice Jeff! Lovely image.

[blueribbontea]

118042
rocks at Point Lobos. Finally finished processing the negatives from this May trip. This was taken with the 5X7 2D on Tri-X and developed in d-23. Printed on AZO Grade 2. scanned from a very curly print.

[blueribbontea]

118046

Quick RC print from 4X5. Ft Bragg beach near sunset.

[czmielek]

Here is one or two from my razzle

http://www.aparaty.tradycyjne.net/konkurs/14026579451788.jpg

http://www.aparaty.tradycyjne.net/konkurs/13965297981401.jpg

[StoneNYC]

Here is one or two from my razzle

http://www.aparaty.tradycyjne.net/konkurs/14026579451788.jpg

http://www.aparaty.tradycyjne.net/konkurs/13965297981401.jpg

That first one, red filter?

[Jmarmck]

I would say both of them. Very nice shots. Very well composed with great tones and sharpness. 4x5?

[czmielek]

Yes both of them with red but on diferent film. First 4x5 is HP5 second 9x12 very outdated NP22.

[Heroique]

Here is one or two from my razzle.

I like the pleasing, topographical variety in both.

The hilly curves, the meandering plough lines.

The nice clouds add whipped cream on top.


Bunchberries near the Gunflint Trail, North of Grand Marais, MN.

I’m late to the party on Jeff's bunchberries-in-fog image – nice!

It has a magical, receding depth, thanks to the least-discussed type of perspective...

Atmospheric perspective. ;^)

[Dean]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3847/14439499019_99aea77e02_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14439499019/)
Flickr 上 多啦73 (https://www.flickr.com/people/duola73/) 的 QQ图片20140702190721 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14439499019/)

[Pfiltz]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3847/14439499019_99aea77e02_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14439499019/)
Flickr 上 多啦73 (https://www.flickr.com/people/duola73/) 的 QQ图片20140702190721 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14439499019/)

Your kill'n me .... ;)

Love this ... Kuddo's

[Jmarmck]

Ditto

[StoneNYC]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3847/14439499019_99aea77e02_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14439499019/)
Flickr 上 多啦73 (https://www.flickr.com/people/duola73/) 的 QQ图片20140702190721 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14439499019/)

What others said...Amazing! Care to share details about exposure, camera, film, dev you're willing to share?

[Jeff Dexheimer]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3847/14439499019_99aea77e02_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14439499019/)
Flickr 上 多啦73 (https://www.flickr.com/people/duola73/) 的 QQ图片20140702190721 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14439499019/)
Beautiful, graceful!

[Dean]

What others said...Amazing! Care to share details about exposure, camera, film, dev you're willing to share?

I am glad you like these photos and I hesitate if these 2 photos should be published in this forum because they are taken by Horseman FA45 camera and my films are used up 6*9 film back. I don’t know if these photo comply with the standard Large Format Photography. The film is PROVIA RDP3 100F and the lens is topcon 90mm/f5.6. The photos are only decolourized and adjusted the contrast, no more other processes. This simple process can not get rid of the dust. I am surprised the effect after decolourized.

[StoneNYC]

I am glad you like these photos and I hesitate if these 2 photos should be published in this forum because they are taken by Horseman FA45 camera and my films are used up 6*9 film back. I don’t know if these photo comply with the standard Large Format Photography. The film is PROVIA RDP3 100F and the lens is topcon 90mm/f5.6. The photos are only decolourized and adjusted the contrast, no more other processes. This simple process can not get rid of the dust. I am surprised the effect after decolourized.

You're allowed to post an image if it was taken with a large format camera, so even the horseman is ok

And scanning and desaturation are allowed here, just not on APUG, but in LFPF it seems to be all about the camera being LF :)

Thanks, interesting process.

[TXFZ1]

You're allowed to post an image if it was taken with a large format camera, so even the horseman is ok

And scanning and desaturation are allowed here, just not on APUG, but in LFPF it seems to be all about the camera being LF :)

Thanks, interesting process.

Scanning and desaturation are allowed on APUG, just they would rather you not talk about how to scan or desat. You been on APUG for long enough, Why even bring up APUG, first rule of APUG is never to talk abo...

[StoneNYC]

Scanning and desaturation are allowed on APUG, just they would rather you not talk about how to scan or desat. You been on APUG for long enough, Why even bring up APUG, first rule of APUG is never to talk abo...

Haha

I specifically had a discussion about desaturation because I wanted to take a chrome images and make it B&W and was told that was not allowed because it would be done digitally, I would have to get some direct positive B&W paper and then print the chrome onto that, in order for it to be allowed.

And TECHNICALLY scanning is allowed only if it represents the print, so you first have to have a traditionally created optical print and make sure the scan matched the print as well as possible. THAT rule I (and many others) break.

Anyway that's why I come here, to get out of the extreme insanity of restriction and find the extreme insanity of large sheets of film :)

[BetterSense]

Incidentally, I have had some very pleasant results with making negatives (enlarger or contact) from transparancies, then making B&W prints. You can even apply color filters in the making of the internegative.

[StoneNYC]

Incidentally, I have had some very pleasant results with making negatives (enlarger or contact) from transparancies, then making B&W prints. You can even apply color filters in the making of the internegative.

Maybe we'll talk when I start doing color printing... I'm very interested in making color internegs.

[Eskinazi]

Cânion Fortaleza, Rio Grande do Sul State (southern Brasil)

Ilford Delta 100 4x5
Rodenstock 150mm f/5.6 Sironar N

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5558/14632265296_4b52d3e0e7_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oi1bG9)

Cânion Fortaleza (https://flic.kr/p/oi1bG9) by Victor Oliveira Eskinazi (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[StoneNYC]

Love that double image! really great look, is that called a bitych? or something? I know 3 is Tryptych or whatnot... either way I like it!

[Eskinazi]

Love that double image! really great look, is that called a bitych? or something? I know 3 is Tryptych or whatnot... either way I like it!

Thank you, Stone. It's called a Diptych.
Actually it was supposed to be a triptych, but the 3rd image that should have been in the left was ruined by the fog that you can see coming from the right side. I was racing against it, but lost at the last frame.

Cheers!

[StoneNYC]

Thank you, Stone. It's called a Diptych.
Actually it was supposed to be a triptych, but the 3rd image that should have been in the left was ruined by the fog that you can see coming from the right side. I was racing against it, but lost at the last frame.

Cheers!

I do see the fog, I was wondering about that, how did it happen?

[Leigh]

I do see the fog, I was wondering about that, how did it happen?
Usually water vapor in an atmosphere with a temperature below the dew point.

- Leigh

[Eskinazi]

I do see the fog, I was wondering about that, how did it happen?

Those canions have a lot of humidity. I've waited some time for the sun but instead the fog came, so I had to rush to make the exposures from right to left. The third one took a little longer since it was another film holder.
By the time I've manage to take the last picture the fog was already in the scene but without the continuity from the right side.

[Boinzo]

Milford Sound, NZ. Cropped Velvia 50 ...

http://www.stefdunn.photography/images/milford.jpg

[RHITMrB]

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2905/14678248943_b829876e49_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/on4S2D)
Dog Mountain (https://flic.kr/p/on4S2D) by Isaac Sachs (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5503/14678246063_0d9241a9a3_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/on4RaZ)
Dog Mountain (https://flic.kr/p/on4RaZ) by Isaac Sachs (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr


Milford Sound, NZ. Cropped Velvia 50 ...

http://www.stefdunn.photography/images/milford.jpg

There's a cinematic feel to this one.

[Leigh]

Milford Sound, NZ. Cropped Velvia 50 ...
http://www.stefdunn.photography/images/milford.jpg
Wonderful shot.

- Leigh

[StoneNYC]

Milford Sound, NZ. Cropped Velvia 50 ...

http://www.stefdunn.photography/images/milford.jpg

HOLY CRAP!!!! This almost looks like it was painted!!! Wow! Blown a way....

[Jmarmck]

Gotta ask, is the sharpness of the mountain ridges natural? I would have expected a more diffuse edge.......if that is the right word.

Either way that is a very nice and moving shot.

[Boinzo]

Thanks for kind comments everyone!

There has been some sharpening applied in post, of course. But it's across the entire frame. The edges of the mountains are very sharp on the light table!


Gotta ask, is the sharpness of the mountain ridges natural? I would have expected a more diffuse edge.......if that is the right word.

Either way that is a very nice and moving shot.

[Gary Tarbert]

Milford Sound, NZ. Cropped Velvia 50 ...

http://www.stefdunn.photography/images/milford.jpg Nice one , This is a lovely part of the world , What time of year was this taken ? Cheers Gary

[Boinzo]

Thanks Gary. This was April this year. It's a good time of year for foliage colour but you lose out on ice and snow capped peaks unfortunately.


Nice one , This is a lovely part of the world , What time of year was this taken ? Cheers Gary

[Corran]

Linhof MT, 75mm f/4.5 Biogon @f/8, E100VS:

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/langdaleparke6-0003ss.jpg

[Jmarmck]

Hmmm, that hole looks vaguely familiar. lol
I guess the water is down again.
Nice texture on the cypress.

[Corran]

Yeah, despite the wicked storms we had Saturday the water level of the Withlacoochee is way down. I've never been down there when it was this dry. Only about a couple of months ago and I couldn't even reach where this photo was taken due to the water level though.

[Jmarmck]

I know places on Spring Creek like that. I have photos in places were no one should have been standing. It got so low last week that we had to kick on the augmentation pumps to generate some follow for the endangered mussels.

[jon.oman]

Milford Sound, NZ. Cropped Velvia 50 ...

http://www.stefdunn.photography/images/milford.jpg

This is a wonderful image!

[Hugo Zhang]

here is one.

[StoneNYC]

here is one.

Isn't that an "urban" landscape? :)

[czmielek]

Razzle 4x5 technical film MA51 and a cherry tree lanscape
http://www.aparaty.tradycyjne.net/konkurs/14055418491209.jpg?id=77557

[alavergh]

One of my favorites so far.

This is Cedar Creek in Auburn, IN. It's near a park where I played little league growing up. One of the ball parks was removed to become a dog park and the other is growing weeds despite the repaired dugouts. The creek is still in good condition though, and the trails are continuing to be filled in without as many kids riding bikes or walking through them.

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[StoneNYC]

One of my favorites so far.

This is Cedar Creek in Auburn, IN. It's near a park where I played little league growing up. One of the ball parks was removed to become a dog park and the other is growing weeds despite the repaired dugouts. The creek is still in good condition though, and the trails are continuing to be filled in without as many kids riding bikes or walking through them.

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FP4+ or HP5+?? Am I totally off base?

[alavergh]

FP4+ or HP5+?? Am I totally off base?

Nope! It's FP4+. Good call. I've been using it for a finer grain than something like TriX or HP5+ but not as finicky as Tmax etc. It's also a bit less expensive.

[StoneNYC]

Nope! It's FP4+. Good call. I've been using it for a finer grain than something like TriX or HP5+ but not as finicky as Tmax etc. It's also a bit less expensive.

Yep, both HP5+ and FP4+ have this interesting and distinct signature in the shadows, I thought so :)

[ALVANDI Camera]

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Dancing clouds on the Zanjan rocks
Iran, Zanjan, Panoral 45 camera, Nikkor-W 150/5.6, Hoya red filter, Ilford FP4 4x5in film
One of the collection Zanjan rocks

[czmielek]

4x5 HP5 Aculux 3
http://www.aparaty.tradycyjne.net/konkurs/14056117171280.jpg

[Nana Sousa Dias]

Milford Sound, NZ. Cropped Velvia 50 ...

http://www.stefdunn.photography/images/milford.jpg

Beautiful.

[koraks]

It's kind of mesmerizing to post in this thread with all its excellent contributions. With appropriate trepidation, I post my very first baby steps into 4x5 territory here. C&C are very welcome.

http://www.koraks.nl/galleries/snapshots/2014_july_-_tests_on_4x5_with_the_sinar/ST45_141_01.jpg

Symmar-S 210/5.6
HP5+ in Rodinal
Epson 4990 scan

[kansasjhawk]

118419
Dancing clouds on the Zanjan rocks
Iran, Zanjan, Panoral 45 camera, Nikkor-W 150/5.6, Hoya red filter, Ilford FP4 4x5in film
One of the collection Zanjan rocks

Awesome image. I love the contrast that the red filter gives between the sky/clouds in this one.

[jcoldslabs]

It's kind of mesmerizing to post in this thread with all its excellent contributions. With appropriate trepidation, I post my very first baby steps into 4x5 territory here. C&C are very welcome.

http://www.koraks.nl/galleries/snapshots/2014_july_-_tests_on_4x5_with_the_sinar/ST45_141_01.jpg

Symmar-S 210/5.6
HP5+ in Rodinal
Epson 4990 scan

Welcome!

I really like this, especially the counterpoint between the trunks of the trees and the support posts of the birdge.

Jonathan

[koraks]

Thanks! It's my camera testing grounds; this park is a few minutes' from my home and I really like these cypresses. With their feet in the water and the way their needles get the wildest colors in autumn, they seem almost out of this world. Well, this continent at least ;)

[Heroique]

I post my very first baby steps into 4x5 territory here.

I also like how the two people add human scale and interest.

They must have noticed you.

Then forgot you were there.

[koraks]

In fact, I started out with a different composition, but the people were too far to the edge, so I decided to take a different approach and give them a more pronounced place in the composition. Yes, they definitely have noticed me; I passed them just before setting up this shot. They seemed very friendly, but also absorbed in some sort of drama the guy was apparently fed up with and she was supporting him. I didn't gather much from their conversation, but their stay in the park wasn't all about letting the dog (the origin of the ripples in the pond) have some free-range time.

Fun fact: this spot is where the local adolescents like to come in twos and threes to smoke a joint - I always come across a few whenever I go there in the evening :P

Alright, one more from last night:
http://www.koraks.nl/galleries/snapshots/2014_july_-_tests_on_4x5_with_the_sinar/WB45_141_01.jpg
On Fomapan 100

[Hugo Zhang]

Mt. Everest.

[ImSoNegative]

118419
Dancing clouds on the Zanjan rocks
Iran, Zanjan, Panoral 45 camera, Nikkor-W 150/5.6, Hoya red filter, Ilford FP4 4x5in film
One of the collection Zanjan rocks

nice shot

[RSalles]

Gens,

One from few days ago,

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3921/14494267528_ca15876a31_c.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sallesrenato/14494267528/)
6x9_2014-4832+33 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sallesrenato/14494267528/) por Renato Augusto Salles (https://www.flickr.com/people/sallesrenato/), no Flickr

Tree - Dilermando de Aguiar - RS - Brazil
Sinar F2, Tominon 4/105mm, Fuji Across 100 ISO, Graflex RH-8 back 6x9, Agfa Rodinal 1:100 in stand 1hr 20ºC.

Cheers,

Renato

[ImSoNegative]

4x5 field camera, 75mm Sa, ilford delta

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2929/14716036103_6fc7df1406_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oqpwQp)a view (https://flic.kr/p/oqpwQp) by goldenmageworks65 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[ImSoNegative]

one more from just down the trail a bit and later in the evening, 4x5, 90mm Sa, ilford delta

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5585/14509503599_87335e853c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/o79ZVa)mountain view 2 (https://flic.kr/p/o79ZVa) by goldenmageworks65 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[StoneNYC]

one more from just down the trail a bit and later in the evening, 4x5, 90mm Sa, ilford delta

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5585/14509503599_87335e853c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/o79ZVa)mountain view 2 (https://flic.kr/p/o79ZVa) by goldenmageworks65 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Almost looks infra-red

[Corran]

one more from just down the trail a bit and later in the evening, 4x5, 90mm Sa, ilford delta

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5585/14509503599_87335e853c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/o79ZVa)mountain view 2 (https://flic.kr/p/o79ZVa) by goldenmageworks65 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Nice, what trail? I see you were up in Cades Cove at that mill but I don't recognize this outcrop.

I took a week-long trip to the Smokies this year but it was crappy weather for the most part :(

[ImSoNegative]

Hey brian this is actually between Hayesville nc and franklin nc, at a place called standing indian, its really beautiful up there, pretty good hike too

[ALVANDI Camera]

Awesome image. I love the contrast that the red filter gives between the sky/clouds in this one.

kansasjhawk and ImSoNegative, Thanks.

[Corran]

Hey brian this is actually between Hayesville nc and franklin nc, at a place called standing indian, its really beautiful up there, pretty good hike too

Cool, I'll have to remember this next time I'm up that way.

[Dean]

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2896/14487975198_6031b85ce6_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14487975198/)
Flickr 上 多啦73 (https://www.flickr.com/people/duola73/) 的 Image8 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14487975198/)
Horseman FA45 WISTA back 6*9. RODENSTOCK 100mm/f5.6.

[StoneNYC]

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2896/14487975198_6031b85ce6_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14487975198/)
Flickr 上 多啦73 (https://www.flickr.com/people/duola73/) 的 Image8 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14487975198/)
Horseman FA45 WISTA back 6*9. RODENSTOCK 100mm/f5.6.

Nice!

[OCM]

http://www.koraks.nl/galleries/snapshots/2014_july_-_tests_on_4x5_with_the_sinar/WB45_141_01.jpg

On Fomapan 100


I like the composition selected giving importance to the reflection of the trees and the depth achieved.
A greeting.

[Ken Lee]

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2896/14487975198_6031b85ce6_b.jpg

Excellent !

[Jmarmck]

Yes it is. But I am still trying to figure out the tree in the walkway.

[Jeff Dexheimer]

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2896/14487975198_6031b85ce6_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14487975198/)
Flickr 上 多啦73 (https://www.flickr.com/people/duola73/) 的 Image8 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/duola73/14487975198/)
Horseman FA45 WISTA back 6*9. RODENSTOCK 100mm/f5.6.
Ohhhh!

This is beautiful, I like your composition and near-far gradation.

[ImSoNegative]

very nice!!

[RHITMrB]

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2924/14714596442_67b93e2f6a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/oqh9SE)
Proceed No Further (https://flic.kr/p/oqh9SE) by Isaac Sachs (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[Fredrick]

Just started printing one of my negatives from Italy. This is Ilford Delta 8x10 EI50 printed at old Agfa Variable Contrast paper, Grade 3. I think the grass after the immediate foreground needs a bit more exposure, else the photo is good in my mind. I have also misplaced my contact frame, so some areas of the photo is not completely sharp. This is a photo from my phone, so the quality is like not viewing it in person.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3846/14529999198_9b6450cb4c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/o8Y3xy)Dolomites (https://flic.kr/p/o8Y3xy) by Fredrick D. Fjeldsbø (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[ImSoNegative]

Beautiful composition

[skiers4life]

I recently continued my quest to get all the major waterfalls in the Smoky Mountains on large format. This past weekend I made the hike to Ramsey Cascades. This beautiful waterfall is actually the highest falls in the park. You've got to earn it though as it's at the end of a fairly brutal hike. It starts easy but gets harder and harder as you go. It's a fairly interesting hike though as you pass through an old forest that contains trees supposedly more than 500 years old.

I really feel that I earned this image. I unexpectedly got rained on while I was focusing the camera. I quickly covered it with my dark cloth and waited out a 45 minute shower. I also had my first bear encounter; surprising only in that it hasn't happened sooner. It was about 50 feet away and fairly large as black bears go. It froze once I yelled at it, and I continued on my way (the photographer in me REALLY wanted to stick around and get at least a cell phone pic!). Finally, I bit it HARD hiking back. After the rain the rocks were of course slick and I was being careful...but not careful enough apparently. As I was going down, all I could think of was "Don't land on the camera gear!" Thankfully I was able to slightly spin and my left arm took the entire fall...gear stayed safe and appendages will heal!

This was shot on 4x5 Ilford Delta 100, 90mm Fujinon lens at f/16 and 1/4s. Developed using Ilfosol-3 in BTZS tubes. Epson V700 scanned.


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3910/14698230866_af3d9a3155_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ooQgXy)

Ramsey-Cascades002edit (https://flic.kr/p/ooQgXy)

by skiers4life (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[Jmarmck]

Outstanding!

[Joel Truckenbrod]

Well done, Alan. I particularly enjoy the tones and textures in the rocks. Well worth the effort.

[Jim Cole]

Definitely worth the effort and bear threat!

[ALVANDI Camera]

I recently continued my quest to get all the major waterfalls in the Smoky Mountains on large format. This past weekend I made the hike to Ramsey Cascades. This beautiful waterfall is actually the highest falls in the park. You've got to earn it though as it's at the end of a fairly brutal hike. It starts easy but gets harder and harder as you go. It's a fairly interesting hike though as you pass through an old forest that contains trees supposedly more than 500 years old.

I really feel that I earned this image. I unexpectedly got rained on while I was focusing the camera. I quickly covered it with my dark cloth and waited out a 45 minute shower. I also had my first bear encounter; surprising only in that it hasn't happened sooner. It was about 50 feet away and fairly large as black bears go. It froze once I yelled at it, and I continued on my way (the photographer in me REALLY wanted to stick around and get at least a cell phone pic!). Finally, I bit it HARD hiking back. After the rain the rocks were of course slick and I was being careful...but not careful enough apparently. As I was going down, all I could think of was "Don't land on the camera gear!" Thankfully I was able to slightly spin and my left arm took the entire fall...gear stayed safe and appendages will heal!

This was shot on 4x5 Ilford Delta 100, 90mm Fujinon lens at f/16 and 1/4s. Developed using Ilfosol-3 in BTZS tubes. Epson V700 scanned.


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3910/14698230866_af3d9a3155_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ooQgXy)

Ramsey-Cascades002edit (https://flic.kr/p/ooQgXy)

by skiers4life (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Nice, I like it.

[Professional]

Yes, it is very nice shot indeed.

I have this developer, but i use it mostly for non Delta slow film, such as Pan F+, FP4+, Acros 100, even Kodak TMAX 100, i don't like Delta much compared to other films non Delta either from Ilford or others.

[Heroique]

Something has gone wrong here. I was responding to two posted messages which seem to have vanished, so my post is now without context!

(Your quoted text is six years old – it had certainly vanished from my memory!)

Great Smoky Mountain waterfall up there...

I'm pretty sure those limestone rocks are fragments of an ancient sea floor, and while I'm not sure anyone will be able to convince me how they got way up there in the mountains, it's still one beautiful geology lesson.

[Dean]

Ohhhh!

This is beautiful, I like your composition and near-far gradation.

Very happy, you will like my photos,Thank you!

[Mark G]

Here are three photographs I took of a wall around a wood, I was using a home made Pinhole camera 5x4 f200 with a laser drilled pinhole in copper. I used Ilford FP4 rated at 100 and deved in HC110. the neg was then scanned on a flatbed . I Live in Cumbria, an area covered in dry stone walls. I have begun a project that I loosely call "Wood Wires & Wiggly Tin" but I will include some stone in that too. This is based on fences and walls around the rural areas of Cumbria. I used pinhole because it was what i was shooting at the time, but I do enjoy the uncertainty and the freedom of trying to frame an image that you can't actually see. Along with the vagueness of the exposure. (If in doubt expose longer.) it's a nice change from the precision of the studio camera.Anyway i hope you enjoy the pictures, Oh and yes I know they are a bit soft :D

[Barry Kirsten]

These are lovely, Mark. What pinhole size/focal length please.

[Peter Lewin]

Mark: I like all three, but particularly the middle one, since it is somehow less expected than the first and last, where it is clear what attracted your attention. There is something about the randomness of the middle one that appeals to me.

Your post here, and in the Introductions forum, made me grab a map. I lived as an ex-pat in London for 6 years, but wasn't sure where Cumbria was. If I have it correct, Cumbria and the Lake District are somewhat the same, or at least the Lake District is in Cumbria. My now-wife and I did quite a bit of hill walking in the Lakes, and enjoyed the stone walls so much that our wedding rings were made by a local jeweler, patterned after the walls and the various stiles used for climbing over them. So do include some stones in your project! (If they would stand still long enough, you could even include a sheep...)

[Mark G]

Hi Barry,
Thank you. The Pinhole was a 0.4mm and the focal length was 80mm.

[Mark G]

Hi Peter,
Thank you, I'm glad that you saw the randomness of the middle one. In fact they are out of order. To view them you should start at the third one, then click "first" then "next". It wasn't until I posted them that I realized the order was wrong. I was trying to show the breakdown of mans impact on the environment as nature fought back. In the picture that you like, what caught my eye was the way that nature seems to have broken down the man made wall and poured out of its constraints. the man made precision of the wall in the third one has been overtaken by the randomness of nature. Well that was the Idea anyway.
I'm glad you and your wife enjoyed the Lakes, It is a very beautiful place, I love to go walking there. these three pictures were taken in another part of Cumbria though, The Eden Valley, an area that runs between the Lakes and the Pennines. It tends to be very much quieter than the Lakeland Fells, I like the solitude sometimes.

[koraks]

I like the third one especially, Mark! It almost has a Mayan vibe to it. How well do these hold up on enlargements?

Here's another one from my end I shot this week.
http://www.koraks.nl/galleries/snapshots/2014_july_-_tests_on_4x5_with_the_sinar/ULZ45_141_04.jpg
Symmar-S 210/5.6, Fomapan 100, Rodinal 1:100, Epson 4990 scan.

[artpanda]

118950
First pic posted here, a parking lot in Taipei, ebony 617se, super-symmar 150mm hm, ektar 100, f22 1/2 3mins.

[ImSoNegative]

Lower goforth creek, 90mm caltar II, ilford delta

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3837/14773246893_00449938c3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ovsKBk)Lower GoForth creek (https://flic.kr/p/ovsKBk) by goldenmageworks65 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[Corran]

I really like the foreground on that one.

I'm going to post this on this thread as well (posted in the Paths thread first). I was messing around with some gear today and needed some outdoor time.

Chamonix 45n1, Schneider 38mm XL, 6x12 back w/ 35mm insert thingies, Plus-X, Microdol-X:

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/38mmpanoramas-0069ss.jpg

So I crammed the bellows on the Chamonix pretty much as short as they would go and could just get this lens to focus @ about 6ft. I rigged up a little handle from a flash bracket and attached both a 12mm viewfinder from the 12mm Voigtlander M-mount lens I have and a bubble level right next to it. I can approximate what the image will look like this way without removing the rollfilm holder and composing on the GG. Works fairly well except the Chamonix focus knob wants to drift forward so a couple of the shots on the roll are way off the mark focus-wise. I'll need to be more diligent on checking that before taking the shot (I have a marking that shows where the proper focus is attained). With the handle I can shoot handheld with this rig but here I was still on a tripod due to a 4-second exposure.

[jcoldslabs]

I like that, Bryan. The sprocket holes work so much better in B&W without all the distracting lines and codes that you get at the frame edges with Kodak color films.

Jonathan

[StoneNYC]

I really like the foreground on that one.

I'm going to post this on this thread as well (posted in the Paths thread first). I was messing around with some gear today and needed some outdoor time.

Chamonix 45n1, Schneider 38mm XL, 6x12 back w/ 35mm insert thingies, Plus-X, Microdol-X:

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/38mmpanoramas-0069ss.jpg

So I crammed the bellows on the Chamonix pretty much as short as they would go and could just get this lens to focus @ about 6ft. I rigged up a little handle from a flash bracket and attached both a 12mm viewfinder from the 12mm Voigtlander M-mount lens I have and a bubble level right next to it. I can approximate what the image will look like this way without removing the rollfilm holder and composing on the GG. Works fairly well except the Chamonix focus knob wants to drift forward so a couple of the shots on the roll are way off the mark focus-wise. I'll need to be more diligent on checking that before taking the shot (I have a marking that shows where the proper focus is attained). With the handle I can shoot handheld with this rig but here I was still on a tripod due to a 4-second exposure.

I like it but the left side seems a little stretched, more than the right, but I like the curve in the background. Tones are great!

PS where does one get a 35mm insert thingie for their 6x12 back? Thanks!

PPS how DID you get rid of the kodak frame edge markings? Did plus-x just not have any? Thanks twice!

[AlexGard]

I like the third one especially, Mark! It almost has a Mayan vibe to it. How well do these hold up on enlargements?

Here's another one from my end I shot this week.
http://www.koraks.nl/galleries/snapshots/2014_july_-_tests_on_4x5_with_the_sinar/ULZ45_141_04.jpg
Symmar-S 210/5.6, Fomapan 100, Rodinal 1:100, Epson 4990 scan.

hey man great to see you here!
Look forward to seeing more of your stuff !

[Corran]

I like that, Bryan. The sprocket holes work so much better in B&W without all the distracting lines and codes that you get at the frame edges with Kodak color films.

Jonathan

Very true! I have a 100' roll of unperforated Portra just made for this little project...


I like it but the left side seems a little stretched, more than the right, but I like the curve in the background. Tones are great!

PS where does one get a 35mm insert thingie for their 6x12 back? Thanks!

PPS how DID you get rid of the kodak frame edge markings? Did plus-x just not have any? Thanks twice!

I think it's just the composition/arrangement of trees that cause that. If you click my blog link below check out a(n almost) full sheet of 4x5 - now that's "stretching!"

You can get 35mm adapter thingies on eBay for like $30 from China. All they are, are little studs with cutouts to fit into the 35mm canister. They are cheap and not as nice as, say, the dedicated 35mm adapter for the Mamiya 7, but it works. I use these in a Horseman 6x12 adapter. I use two reloadable cartridges for this - one empty on the take-up side, and one with about 28 shots on normal 35mm to get 7 shots on 6x12. I pull the end around the back and tape it to the empty spool so it'll wind up in there. I use just a little bit of tape on the spool of the loaded cartridge, and so when I hit the end of the roll (I can feel the tension) I just keep winding harder and it rips the tape and the end of the film into the other cartridge. Then I move the now empty cartridge onto the take-up spool and load a new roll of film!

As for the frame edge - technically it's rebadged Arista 100 Premium so that's why it's not marked as much as the Kodak-branded stuff. I guess.

[koraks]

Corran, kudos on the sprocket hole exposure! The composition benefits from this unusual format.
Coincidentally, I made these 35 mm adapter thingies myself the other day from a 120 film spool; I just cut and ground one to fit a 35mm canister. However, I find that even in a 6x7 back (let alone 6x12), the film just won't stay flat enough to obtain good focus over the entire surface. Maybe this is because I use expired (and therefore old) film. Do you recognize this problem at all? If so, how did you fix it? If not, I'll have to look at how the Horseman back does its film tensioning/flattening; perhaps the Graflex I use just isn't very good in that department.

http://www.koraks.nl/galleries/snapshots/2014_july_-_tests_on_4x5_with_the_sinar/ULZ135P_141_04.jpg
Expired Fuji Superia 200 print film in Graflex 6x7 back, Schneider Symmar-S 210/5.6, developed in Rodinal, 4990 scan. Obviously, this combination of film and developer will result in pretty horrible tonality and very coarse grain, but this was a 'shits & giggles' enterprise. The strips around the sprocket holes come out badly focused and with reflection artifacts because the film just won't stay flat in this back.

@AlexGard: thanks! And you bet I'll be here more in the future! It's much more active in the 4x5 department than our other hangout ;)

[Corran]

Nice! I like how the trees and sprockets almost line up.

Regarding film flatness, I was worried about that but I haven't had any issues. I'm not sure if it's attributable to the film back or the film stock itself (I've used a couple different films without issue, but not any Superia).

[Jmarmck]

Nice Bryan. Looks like the Spring Creek Park at Colquitt? I have been looking for a 9x12 or wider. I'd take a back for the Zone VI. Now, I will have to look into the 135. Where can one find unbranded film?

[Ken Lee]

http://www.kenleegallery.com/images/forum/2014-07-05.jpg
Massachusetts, July 2014
Tachihara Field Camera, 200mm Nikkor M
4x5 Kodak TMY, D-23

[StoneNYC]

Corran, kudos on the sprocket hole exposure! The composition benefits from this unusual format.
Coincidentally, I made these 35 mm adapter thingies myself the other day from a 120 film spool; I just cut and ground one to fit a 35mm canister. However, I find that even in a 6x7 back (let alone 6x12), the film just won't stay flat enough to obtain good focus over the entire surface. Maybe this is because I use expired (and therefore old) film. Do you recognize this problem at all? If so, how did you fix it? If not, I'll have to look at how the Horseman back does its film tensioning/flattening; perhaps the Graflex I use just isn't very good in that department.

http://www.koraks.nl/galleries/snapshots/2014_july_-_tests_on_4x5_with_the_sinar/ULZ135P_141_04.jpg
Expired Fuji Superia 200 print film in Graflex 6x7 back, Schneider Symmar-S 210/5.6, developed in Rodinal, 4990 scan. Obviously, this combination of film and developer will result in pretty horrible tonality and very coarse grain, but this was a 'shits & giggles' enterprise. The strips around the sprocket holes come out badly focused and with reflection artifacts because the film just won't stay flat in this back.

@AlexGard: thanks! And you bet I'll be here more in the future! It's much more active in the 4x5 department than our other hangout ;)

Are you using it in a 220 back? Remember that with normal will film there is backing paper for 120, so you have to use a 220 back which pressure plate sits closer to the film and therefore would keep it a little flatter or at least in theory that should help alleviate some of your issues.

[Corran]

Marty, I was actually at Reed Bingham State Park in Adel. An okay park. I will have to look into Spring Creek!

As for film I'm not sure now since Arista isn't repackaging Kodak film anymore it appears. I have some FP4+ on tap for when my Plus-X gets used up. Not sure what their film edges look like.

[Jmarmck]

http://www.kenleegallery.com/images/forum/2014-07-05.jpg
Massachusetts, July 2014
Tachihara Field Camera, 200mm Nikkor M
4x5 Kodak TMY, D-23
That ..............is cool! Nice clouds. The grey adds to the paint of the building.

[TXFZ1]

Massachusetts, July 2014
Tachihara Field Camera, 200mm Nikkor M
4x5 Kodak TMY, D-23

Inspirational, nice use of the near/far.

David

[Nana Sousa Dias]

Home made 4x5 camera with Schneider SA 47 xl, Fomapan 100

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/280x200q90/911/w7ub8m.jpg (http://imageshack.com/f/pbw7ub8mj)

[Nana Sousa Dias]

Imageschack is now completely diferent, I didn't use it for a while, I can't anymore use it the way I used to do, can someone tell me, please, another way to upload photos here?

[h2oman]

Yeah, really nice, Ken. One of my favorites of yours.

[Corran]

Another nice one Nana! Sadly I know nothing about ImageShack.

Here's one I took last week. Linhof MT, Nikkor 90mm f/8 w/ polarizer and both a 4x and 8x ND filter, Velvia 100F and then converted it to b&w with a "virtual" red filter:

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/millgone-0079bwss.jpg

[Nana Sousa Dias]

Another nice one Nana! Sadly I know nothing about ImageShack.

Here's one I took last week. Linhof MT, Nikkor 90mm f/8 w/ polarizer and both a 4x and 8x ND filter, Velvia 100F and then converted it to b&w with a "virtual" red filter:

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/millgone-0079bwss.jpg

Thanks, Brian, this photo of yours is stunning!

[Nana Sousa Dias]

119006

Home made 4x5 camera, Schneider SA 47 XL, Fomapan 100, 25A filter, Rodinal, Epson V700.

[Gary Tarbert]

Another nice one Nana! Sadly I know nothing about ImageShack.

Here's one I took last week. Linhof MT, Nikkor 90mm f/8 w/ polarizer and both a 4x and 8x ND filter, Velvia 100F and then converted it to b&w with a "virtual" red filter:

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/millgone-0079bwss.jpg Love it awesome shot!!

[Gary Tarbert]

119006

Home made 4x5 camera, Schneider SA 47 XL, Fomapan 100, 25A filter, Rodinal, Epson V700. love the light ,And the way you have controlled it in this image.

[Nana Sousa Dias]

love the light ,And the way you have controlled it in this image.

Thanks, Gary.

[koraks]

Are you using it in a 220 back? Remember that with normal will film there is backing paper for 120, so you have to use a 220 back which pressure plate sits closer to the film and therefore would keep it a little flatter or at least in theory that should help alleviate some of your issues.
Good point! No, this was a 120 back, so a 220 back could be a solution.

Also, Corran, interesting that you haven't encountered this problem; I suspect working with old film could be part of the problem, as old film stock sometimes has the tendency to curl quite badly.

[tangyimail]

Kudos Mark, the third one is my favourite.



Here are three photographs I took of a wall around a wood, I was using a home made Pinhole camera 5x4 f200 with a laser drilled pinhole in copper. I used Ilford FP4 rated at 100 and deved in HC110. the neg was then scanned on a flatbed . I Live in Cumbria, an area covered in dry stone walls. I have begun a project that I loosely call "Wood Wires & Wiggly Tin" but I will include some stone in that too. This is based on fences and walls around the rural areas of Cumbria. I used pinhole because it was what i was shooting at the time, but I do enjoy the uncertainty and the freedom of trying to frame an image that you can't actually see. Along with the vagueness of the exposure. (If in doubt expose longer.) it's a nice change from the precision of the studio camera.Anyway i hope you enjoy the pictures, Oh and yes I know they are a bit soft :D

[Corran]

Thanks Nana and Gary. I'm not sure I didn't push the contrast too far.

koraks, I never thought about what Stone mentioned, with the backing paper. Maybe you could try taping some backing paper from an old 120 roll onto the pressure plate? I might try that as well, because it makes sense. I'm sure the DOF of the lens I used covered up any minute differences in focus plane but it wouldn't hurt to try it. That said, yeah might be the old film causing your problems.

[Corran]

Sunset in the Swamp.
Chamonix 45n1, Schneider 38XL, Velvia 50, square crop:

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/grandbay38mm-0084ss.jpg

A post-script to this one - I was out there pretty late so it was almost totally dark on the roughly mile-hike back to the car. What was weird and creepy was on the boardwalk handrail, when in the deepest part of the swamp woods, every 15-20 yards was a massive wolf spider (I think) that spanned 3-5 inches from end-to-end. They were just sitting on the handrail, almost evenly spaced. We saw 9 of these massive spiders. I think they've figured out the little lizards that live around here love to sprint down the handrail like it's a little road or something, so they just wait for a free meal. My girlfriend was freaking out so bad when I started pointing them out. The funny part was their coloring was almost perfectly matched to the handrail so they blended in. I've never seen anything like it.

[koraks]

Those colors. Those trees. Excellent! You must have done more with those trees, no? We don't get them like that around here with the lichen hanging down from the branches like that. Pity, really!

I'm contemplating putting some backing paper behind that 35mm film, but I'm still grieving because my little convenient plan fell apart: the setup I created with a saw and a file allowed me to use the film straight from the canister, no respooling required upon loading the film. Alas! ;)

[Corran]

Those colors. Those trees. Excellent! You must have done more with those trees, no? We don't get them like that around here with the lichen hanging down from the branches like that. Pity, really!

The really big cypresses that are spectacular aren't around here. The other thing is a lot of the best angles seem to be in the water and I have an aversion to that...

Anyway, I was back out today. Wanted to shoot more with the 35mm/612 combo. I took this concept even further into ridiculousness though. I shot this scene twice because it was too dark to even see the GG at all, so I was completely guessing the composition. I decided after the first shot that I wanted to pan over about 50% to get a different composition. After scanning, I then took these two images into Microsoft ICE and stitched them like I do panoramic images, essentially making this even wider!

Here it is. Taken on Portra 160NC, unperforated, from a bulk roll:
http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/38mmpanoramas-0096-stitchss.jpg

And since I made it so tiny for the purpose of posting, HERE (http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/38mmpanoramas-0096-stitchs.jpg)is a link to the same image at twice the size if you would like.

Now that I've done this, I'm thinking I'm going to try this but swing the camera around a full 360 degrees, after carefully leveling the tripod, and take like 5-6 images. Wonder what that'll do???

[Peter Lewin]

Corran, I always enjoy panoramas, and your recent experiments are wonderful! Please keep up your experiments and post the results.

[Jmarmck]

Stunning Bryan! You are inspiring me.
The detail on the Palmettos and is wonderful as is the reflection and transparency of the water.

[Corran]

Thank you Peter, Marty!

I feel a little guilty, as I have a very nice Shen Hao 617 camera here that I really should be using more. But it's a lot harder to "commit" to shooting a few rolls of 120 on a casual afternoon hike. The other thing is that in terms of angle of view, I don't have any lenses that cover 617 quite like the 38mmXL covers the 35mm/612. The 58mmXL just barely is shy of covering 617 sadly, and when using the center filter it really cuts into the image (This last one was with the CF and it was a lot more evenly exposed than the first image I posted). I believe the 58mmXL on 617 would be equivalent to what I'm shooting here in field of view. Also I have boxes and boxes of expired 35mm film that I got for pennies on the dollar...

At the risk of monopolizing this thread for a minute, here's the rest of the "keepers" from the rolls I shot. I also have a couple of vertical images that I like but really don't work on a computer monitor. I will probably put them on my blog though sometime tonight.

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/38mmpanoramas-0093ss.jpg

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/38mmpanoramas-0094ss.jpg

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/trixpan38mm-0100ss.jpg

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/trixpan38mm-0110ss.jpg

[Jmarmck]

Yes, I love the last one very much. This is one I have been trying to capture in varying lights.
I would really like to get into the panorama end of this. Seems I end up cropping most my landscapes to mimic it.

Also, I have use the stitching in the lite version of Elements 10. It seems to work very well.

[Corran]

Yeah I am very happy with that one. The Saw Palmettos are a challenging subject to me. Half of them are damaged from bugs or other environmental factors, there's usually a ton of them in a big jumble so it's hard to compose, and then you've got to balance the extreme shadows underneath with the reflective fronds. This one was one of the last frames I shot and it was pretty much dark, around 8:30. This was a one-minute exposure and I probably could've given it double that. The late evening light was helpful.

[koraks]

Don't worry about monopolizing this thread Corran, the panoramas are lovely!

Back to 4x5, one from yesterday:
http://www.koraks.nl/galleries/snapshots/2014_july_-_tests_on_4x5_with_the_sinar/LDD45_141_04.jpg
Symmar-S 210/5.6, Fomapan 100, Rodinal 1+100, 4990 scan

[Peter Gomena]

Your panos rock, Bryan! The palmettos reach right out of the frame.

[Corran]

Thank you both. I am glad you and others like them. I've been in a bit of a slump in my photography so it means a lot to me right now! :)

As a side note, I have been noticing some poor image quality on larger views of these panoramas in the background areas especially. I found a brass shim on the ground today that I think fell out of the lens when I was attaching it to a lens board. Totally missed it being in there when I took it apart. I will have to see if that improves the image quality...

[ALVANDI Camera]

119006

Home made 4x5 camera, Schneider SA 47 XL, Fomapan 100, 25A filter, Rodinal, Epson V700.
Very nice image, Nana

[ALVANDI Camera]

119006

Home made 4x5 camera, Schneider SA 47 XL, Fomapan 100, 25A filter, Rodinal, Epson V700.

Amazing, I like it

[AlexGard]

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2924/14769035546_2c692468fb_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ov6aHU)Bayuquan (https://flic.kr/p/ov6aHU) by Alex Gard (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
This was the shot where I figured out why those little 135mm lenses are so cheap.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5560/14604977268_2a54b08064_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ofAjUU)Bayuquan Port, China (https://flic.kr/p/ofAjUU) by Alex Gard (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2935/14789221304_0a8117a596_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/owSCfd)M/V Lowlands Brilliance (https://flic.kr/p/owSCfd) by Alex Gard (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3842/14604809490_1839897188_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ofzt3b)Cranes, Bayuquan Port, China (https://flic.kr/p/ofzt3b) by Alex Gard (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[AlexGard]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3908/14791042375_853c9b556a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ox2XzZ)Slums, Bayuquan, China (https://flic.kr/p/ox2XzZ) by Alex Gard (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[koraks]

> This was the shot where I figured out why those little 135mm lenses are so cheap.
As in, limited coverage? At least they're not very heavy to lug around ;)

Great images once again, keep them coming!

[AlexGard]

Yeah coverage is the isssue, and I really don't see much difference with field of view 150mm>135mm.

A cheap experiment, I suppose. if anyone wants a 135mm schneider hit me up :P

[Corran]

Nice tones and exposures Alex! I really like the series of cranes.

I never did much like the limitations of the 135mm focal length. If you like "slightly wide" lenses and want a ton of coverage, the 120mm f/8 Nikkor can cover 8x10, so it has pretty much unlimited coverage...as long as you don't mind the larger size. Pretty cheap too relative to its capability.

[koraks]

A cheap experiment, I suppose. if anyone wants a 135mm schneider hit me up :P
Nah thanks, I got one ;) It's pretty limited in terms of movements, although it's usable. I also find the one I have (Xenar f/4.7) gets decidedly soft towards the corners. Still, the angle is quite nice and it's very light weight. When I got it, I sort of assumed that it would be unusable (also because the shutter was stuck, but I managed to get it unstuck), but I'm pleasantly surprised. Movements are just enough for most scenes and center sharpness is quite good, it seems.

[DennisD]

Another nice one Nana! Sadly I know nothing about ImageShack.

Here's one I took last week. Linhof MT, Nikkor 90mm f/8 w/ polarizer and both a 4x and 8x ND filter, Velvia 100F and then converted it to b&w with a "virtual" red filter:

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/millgone-0079bwss.jpg

Quite fine ! Striking ! Nice use of lights, darks (contrast) and texture.

[DennisD]

119006

Home made 4x5 camera, Schneider SA 47 XL, Fomapan 100, 25A filter, Rodinal, Epson V700.

Beautiful.
Nana, you always seem to "nail it" - You are the master of wide angle !

[DennisD]

Thank you Peter, Marty!

I feel a little guilty, as I have a very nice Shen Hao 617 camera here that I really should be using more. But it's a lot harder to "commit" to shooting a few rolls of 120 on a casual afternoon hike. The other thing is that in terms of angle of view, I don't have any lenses that cover 617 quite like the 38mmXL covers the 35mm/612. The 58mmXL just barely is shy of covering 617 sadly, and when using the center filter it really cuts into the image (This last one was with the CF and it was a lot more evenly exposed than the first image I posted). I believe the 58mmXL on 617 would be equivalent to what I'm shooting here in field of view. Also I have boxes and boxes of expired 35mm film that I got for pennies on the dollar...

At the risk of monopolizing this thread for a minute, here's the rest of the "keepers" from the rolls I shot. I also have a couple of vertical images that I like but really don't work on a computer monitor. I will probably put them on my blog though sometime tonight.

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/38mmpanoramas-0093ss.jpg

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/38mmpanoramas-0094ss.jpg

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/trixpan38mm-0100ss.jpg

http://www.oceanstarproductions.com/photosharing/trixpan38mm-0110ss.jpg

Corran,

Thanks for sharing. Interesting work with rich tones. They are all lovely - especially like image in post no. 8991.

Dennis

[DennisD]

http://www.kenleegallery.com/images/forum/2014-07-05.jpg
Massachusetts, July 2014
Tachihara Field Camera, 200mm Nikkor M
4x5 Kodak TMY, D-23

Very lovely, thoughtful composition, Ken.
From the overall tone, didn't have to look twice to know it was yours !

[Fredrick]

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5568/14609279729_154c13ea60_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ofYnTg)Dolomites 2 (https://flic.kr/p/ofYnTg) by Fredrick D. Fjeldsbø (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

[DennisD]

Cranes, Bayuquan Port, China (https://flic.kr/p/ofzt3b) by Alex Gard (https://www.flickr.com/peoplle//), on Flickr

Powerful image, Alex !

[DennisD]

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5568/14609279729_154c13ea60_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ofYnTg)Dolomites 2 (https://flic.kr/p/ofYnTg) by Fredrick D. Fjeldsbø (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Fabulous scene, Frederick. Wish I were there now !

[Corran]

Thanks Dennis for your kind comments.

Frederick, nice shot and a compelling locale...

[Fredrick]

Thank you guys! I will must certainly be going back to the Dolomites when I have time. Such an amazing place!

[Jmarmck]

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5568/14609279729_154c13ea60_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ofYnTg)Dolomites 2 (https://flic.kr/p/ofYnTg) by Fredrick D. Fjeldsbø (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

I am impressed. Can I retire there too? :)

[Fredrick]

I am impressed. Can I retire there too? :)
Thanks!

Must likely yes. There was actually two farms right behind me, and I'm sure you could convince the farmer's to let you buy their house ;-)

[Deval]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3882/14611275037_ff61bc83f0_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/og9B28)Glacier Point Sunset (https://flic.kr/p/og9B28) by DevalJoshi (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Toyo 45 aII
Rodenstock Sironar S 150mm
Fuji Velvia 100 4x5

[Jmarmck]

Very nice. Love the color. Anyone here old enough to have gotten a shot of the firefall?