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dazedgonebye
15-Dec-2008, 07:57
Continuing my slow crawl towards large format...

I've been getting my things together for developing 4x5 and I guess I'm just about there. Working through the process, I have (at least) one more question.

How do you hang 4x5 film to dry? This is no problem for me with roll film, but I have no idea how to do it with sheet.

Thanks,

Jay Wolfe
15-Dec-2008, 08:05
Wooden clothes pins. Film slips in plastic pins.

Ralph Barker
15-Dec-2008, 08:12
I use hangers I made out of wire clothes hangers and binder clips from the office supply store. To keep the film apart, I add bits of drinking straw and washers, as shown.

dazedgonebye
15-Dec-2008, 08:12
I guess I was concerned that there would not be enough area around the image to clip something to.
Is that not a problem?

Ralph Barker
15-Dec-2008, 08:14
I guess I was concerned that there would not be enough area around the image to clip something to.
Is that not a problem?

We posted at the same time. The binder clips make a very narrow profile at the attachment point, fitting easily within the margin on the film.

Ash
15-Dec-2008, 08:17
Ever seen the really big clothes hangers? the ones with maybe 4 or 5 horizontal bars? Similar to the top left here:

http://www.global-b2b-network.com/direct/dbimage/50331320/Plastic_Clothes_Hangers.jpg


I turn the hanger on its side (so it is flat, not vertical) and use film clips on the bars. One on the top corner, and one on the bottom corner - the film dries diagonal cool/room-temp.

I only have the clips in about 3mm or so on the film, because the metal spring is strong.

Bruce Watson
15-Dec-2008, 08:28
I second the wooden clothes pins. I hang sheet film from the notched corner. Plenty of room for a good grip there.

dazedgonebye
15-Dec-2008, 08:34
Thanks guys,
Looks like there's no problem there after all.

shmoo
15-Dec-2008, 09:51
http://www.containerstore.com/browse/big_product_pic.jhtml?PRODID=68595 try this

Ash
15-Dec-2008, 10:05
Shmoo I saw one of those when I looked for a picture of the clothes hanger I meant - they look ideal for space saving.

Paul Bujak
15-Dec-2008, 10:33
I use a plastic coat hanger with six plastic clothes pins wired across the bottom. I clip the film sheets at the corner for good drainage and hang the whole unit from the shower head. With the curtain closed, it's the most dust-free place in the house.

Nathan Potter
15-Dec-2008, 12:17
Wow my 4X5 negs are really valuable considering the work required to obtain them. So I've never fooled around with the processing and drying. I originally made a drying cabinet that used a HEPA filter from Home Depot. Contained a fan to force air thru the HEPA. Used old Kodak SS clips to hold the film in two spots at the edge. Don't remember what these clips were called but I've seen them on ebay occasionally. Now I use the same SS clips and hang them in a laminar flow hood within the darkroom. Never get a speck of dust.

Nate Potter, Austin TX.

BradS
15-Dec-2008, 15:15
run a strong string through the middle of the sping on a few ordinary wood clothes pins. Stretch the string up in a door way. It was good enough for Mr. Adams...works for me.

As already mentioned, the wood sticks to the film emulsion a tiny bit. It's perfect.

shmoo
15-Dec-2008, 20:51
Shmoo I saw one of those when I looked for a picture of the clothes hanger I meant - they look ideal for space saving.

These work really well when you hang them on a shower curtain rod. I usually use every other clip to keep some spacing in between negs. The clips are sturdy enough to hold negs easily. You could easily hang 4-5 of these on a standard shower rod.
:eek:

David A. Goldfarb
15-Dec-2008, 21:17
Jobo sheet film clips. They pierce the film with a pin, so there is minimal contact area and they are strong enough for any format. They hold the film perpendicular to the line, so you can fit a lot of film in a small space. They're expensive, but I don't have much drying space, and I shoot formats from 2x3" to 11x14" and 7x17", and with the smaller formats I sometimes process batches of 40 sheets or more, so they're worth it to me.

Here's a photo of some 2x3" sheets hanging on the line.

jeroldharter
15-Dec-2008, 22:04
These are excellent clips for both film and prints:

http://www.craft-inc.com/gui/gui1/prod_detail.aspx?riDeptID=6&riIDClass=59&riIDItem=439&QtySelected=1&value1=100&value3=.160+dia.

neil poulsen
16-Dec-2008, 01:55
I built a custom cabinet to hang 4x5 on the left side and roll film on the right side. I close the cabinet during drying to minimize dust. Since I'm not in a hurry, I don't use any kind of forced air.

tmastran
16-Dec-2008, 07:28
I think I posted this one before. I can dry about 36 4x5 negatives in this foldable rack. The rack is from the kitchen section of Box-Mart. Clips about $2 pair from the office section. I knock off the round magnets.

http://www.tedmastrandonas.com/misc/rack.jpg

David A. Goldfarb
16-Dec-2008, 12:05
http://www.tedmastrandonas.com/misc/rack.jpg

I use one of those racks when I need more space and have to stack darkroom trays. I think I bought it at Bed, Bath, and Beyond.

BigSteveG
17-Dec-2008, 12:52
The lingerie dryer looks perfect. I've seen tham at B&H for $149.00

ki6mf
17-Dec-2008, 13:51
All good ideas. The only thing I do is attach the film to the close pin at the tip of one corner. This lets the film hang in a diamond shape. This is a personal preference!

beemermark
20-Dec-2008, 13:09
http://www.containerstore.com/browse/big_product_pic.jhtml?PRODID=68595 try this
My wife had something similar for drying clothes, except round and all plastic and has a big hook to hang it from anything. Holds about 12 sheets. Also holds all types of film conveniently. Been using for years and I think it's great. Compact, clean, etc. I hang it from the shower rod.

Stephanie Brim
20-Dec-2008, 14:39
http://thirtyfivemillimeter.org/blogimages/filmdrying.jpg

Sorry for the messy kitchen. I use an old AV cable strung between my two cabinet handles above the kitchen sink and clothespins to hold the film. I couldn't find the twine I normally use and I had already developed the film. ;)

walter23
20-Dec-2008, 15:43
Continuing my slow crawl towards large format...

I've been getting my things together for developing 4x5 and I guess I'm just about there. Working through the process, I have (at least) one more question.

How do you hang 4x5 film to dry? This is no problem for me with roll film, but I have no idea how to do it with sheet.

Thanks,

I got some little alligator clips from an electronics supply store and strung them on a piece of picture hanging wire. Then in the final stage of my wash I use some LFN wetting agent (comes in a tiny white bottle) to help the water drain off and not leave spots, then hang from the clips by the corner. When the sheets have gotten to the point where there's a drop left hanging on the corner I blot them on the corner with my shirt. I find sometimes the water droplet leaves a spot of residue otherwise. Mind you that was when I lived in an area with very hard water, and I haven't changed my routine since moving so it may not be necessary in all areas.

shmoo
21-Dec-2008, 13:26
My wife had something similar for drying clothes, except round and all plastic and has a big hook to hang it from anything. Holds about 12 sheets. Also holds all types of film conveniently. Been using for years and I think it's great. Compact, clean, etc. I hang it from the shower rod.

sorta' like this only round? About $3-4 at a Japanese store.

tgtaylor
22-Dec-2008, 14:33
B&H sells Delta brand film clips for $7.95 for 10 clips. Each clip has a simi ring on top for handing on a clothes line, rack, etc. These are the best clips for sheet film that I've seen, and they don't cost a small fortune like the Jobo clips (10 for $70.00!).

Thomas

Dirk Rösler
24-Dec-2008, 21:42
Japanese socks laundry hanger...

sailbad
11-Jan-2009, 16:12
Hello I'm a new member so I'll keep this brief. I use a closet with fishing line hung in the upper part. I also use plastic clothepins and grip my 4x5 neg from one corner and let it hang crooked........ I even hang my 120 film on an angle from the same set up.

AaronCarlson
25-Apr-2013, 09:43
The lingerie dryer looks perfect. I've seen tham at B&H for $149.00

lingerie dryer is bit expensive but most effective. I still use it

md99
25-Apr-2013, 18:30
I searched on dental film hangers (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-30-Dentsply-Rinn-Single-Intra-oral-Film-Hangers-Metal-Clips-for-Dental-Xray-/271166822284?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f22cd578c) and found these. I've used them for a while and they work great. Notice the curved hook on one end and a pointed clip on the other which holds the very edge of the corner of the negative very securely.

I hang them up inside a hanging dress bag (http://www.worldmarket.com/product/natural-canvas-hanging-dress-bag.do) which keeps them dust-free. You can add a 100 w bulb in a cheap fixture placed securely in the bottom of the bag and they will dry quite fast. Pretty inexpensive and efficient drying cabinet setup.

Cheers

AaronCarlson
26-Apr-2013, 04:31
The buy lingerie (http://www.robustbuy.com/womens-clothes-lingerie-sets-c-1083_1085_1088.html) dryer looks perfect. I've seen tham at B&H for $149.00

lingerie dryer is bit expensive but most effective. I still use it

Anybody out there using lingerie method?

jnantz
26-Apr-2013, 05:52
nope ...
i have a large 2 door plastic storage cabinet sans shelves
drilled holes in the sides, strung wire across and hang film with clothes pins ..
no dust no problems. i can dry about 50 sheets of film at once if i have to ...

120+35mm dangle from a string across the ceiling...

why would anyone pay 150$ for a laundry bag? a garment bag costs maybe 10$