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edhaeuser
8-Dec-2008, 09:39
Hi,

I am looking at buying a Caltar W 90mm F8 lens in a copal shutter. I will not see the lens before buying it. The seller described the shutter as a copal N.0.0, would this be the same as what is generally called a Copal O?

Thanks,

Ed Haeuser

BrianShaw
8-Dec-2008, 09:41
I'll bet you are right. He probably mis-typed "Copal No. 0" and put in an extra 'dot'

edhaeuser
8-Dec-2008, 09:46
Thanks, I'm not all that familiar with the sizes of copal. Is there such a thing as a Copal 00?

Thanks,

Ed

Peter K
8-Dec-2008, 11:39
Ed, as I know Copal made never shutters in size #00. But you can ask the seller, if the mounting hole on the lensboard is 34,6mm it is a shutter size #0.

edhaeuser
8-Dec-2008, 11:46
I have it figured out.

Thanks

IanG
8-Dec-2008, 13:31
It's an early Caltar lens as it's not a Rodenstock 90mm they only come as f4.5 & f6.8. Caltar were rebadged Schneider lenses at one point, and the Super Angulon is normally in a Copal N0.0 shutter, but a few early ones were in the Copal N0.00 shutter.

Before Schneider the Caltars were US made Illex lenses. They 90mm isn't supposed to be as good as the later versions.

Ian

Ole Tjugen
8-Dec-2008, 15:27
The early 90mm f:8 Super Angulons were in Compur No.00, not Copal.

Chauncey Walden
8-Dec-2008, 16:54
And, if Lynn Jones sees Ian's post, I'm sure he will staunchly defend the Ilex-Calumet Wide Field Caltar. I certainly have never had any reason to question mine - and I also have the Schneider. The Ilex is in the 5x7 bag and the Schneider is in the 4x5. Does that tell you something about the coverage?

Alan Davenport
8-Dec-2008, 20:18
I have a Caltar W-II 90mm f/8 lens. It's a rebadged Super Angulon, and is in a Copal 0 shutter.

IanG
8-Dec-2008, 23:17
Ole's right some were in the Compur 00, not a Copal 0, I was thinking of shutter size forgetting the brand. I have a Linhof selected 65mm f8 SA in a Compur 00 and it's my worst LF shutter, as in least practical.


And, if Lynn Jones sees Ian's post, I'm sure he will staunchly defend the Ilex-Calumet Wide Field Caltar. I certainly have never had any reason to question mine - and I also have the Schneider. The Ilex is in the 5x7 bag and the Schneider is in the 4x5. Does that tell you something about the coverage?

Perhaps I should have said "supposed by some" because you hear quite different opinions :rolleyes:

Ian

Greg Lockrey
9-Dec-2008, 00:03
I have one of those old 90 SA's in a Compur 00.... are they worth anything? :o

IanG
9-Dec-2008, 02:41
Early Super Angulons don't usually sell for high prices, there's one on Ebay now for $399 in a Compur 00, but that's a very over optimistic Buy it Now price. You can buy a newer MC version for that. I would guess that $200-$300 is more realistic.

I paid about $300 for an excellent f5.6 90mm SA about 18 moths ago, in the UK where LF prices are generally quite a bit higher.

Ian

Ole Tjugen
9-Dec-2008, 02:50
Of course a 90mm SA in Compur 00 is worth something - for shooting. I like mine on 5x7" film:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1076/812201524_b0f83f97fe.jpg

Greg Lockrey
9-Dec-2008, 03:12
Early Super Angulons don't usually sell for high prices, there's one on Ebay now for $399 in a Compur 00, but that's a very over optimistic Buy it Now price. You can buy a newer MC version for that. I would guess that $200-$300 is more realistic.

I paid about $300 for an excellent f5.6 90mm SA about 18 moths ago, in the UK where LF prices are generally quite a bit higher.

Ian

:) I had mine for about 20 years and I think I got it for about a $100.00 at a photo swap meet. I originally got it for my 2 1/4 x 2 3/4 Graphlex because of the small shutter. All this discussion about 00 shutters had me wondering.

IanG
9-Dec-2008, 05:42
Greg, if I found a different 00 shutter for my 65mm SA I'd swap it for the Compur, I just find the Compur 00 slow to use compared to all my other shutters because mine has no preview lever, & no T setting. But I guess they were ideal on the roll film Linhofs etc.

Ian