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24-Nov-2008, 12:48
Do you use Warm up filters Color Correction filters for long exposure with Velvia, or that something that you now correct for at scanning.
Joanna Carter
24-Nov-2008, 13:21
Do you use Warm up filters Color Correction filters for long exposure with Velvia, or that something that you now correct for at scanning.
Velvia 100 >2 mins - 2.5M
Velvia 50 1-4secs - 5M
5-8secs - 7.5M
9-16secs - 10M
17-32secs - 12.5M
>32secs - not recommended
Velvia 100F >1min - 2.5B
All of these and more can be found in the datasheets on Fuji's site http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/professional/films.html
dwhistance
24-Nov-2008, 16:58
I do carry a warm up filter to use with Velvia on long exposures (85C off the top of my head?) but don't tend to use it very often. I have also often exposed Velvia 50 for more than 32s without any noticeable ill effects. My suspicion is that the Fuji tables were created for studio photographers for whom accurate colour was essential. In the landscape, which is where I (and I suspect most others) use Velvia, it is much less critical.
If you are scanning then rather than worrying about the potential colour shift I'd start by concentrating on the reciprocity corrections - there is little point in the colour correction filter if the image is dramatically under exposed!
David Whistance
Jeffrey Sipress
24-Nov-2008, 19:25
I made my life a whole lot easier and get better results by no longer using Velvia. Aaahhhh.........
roteague
24-Nov-2008, 20:11
I shoot only Velvia (at least in LF), and I don't own any of those filters. I tend to agree with David.
Marko Vrabec
24-Nov-2008, 23:10
I recall one particular exposure, about a minute on Velvia 50, and while the transparency surely had a noticeable greenish cast, it was easily removed after scanning (in fact already the auto-preview in Vuescan recognized and eliminated the cast).
Aender Brepsom
24-Nov-2008, 23:54
On rare occasion, I use an 81C filter with Velvia, but I always take one shot of the same scene without the filter too.
neil poulsen
25-Nov-2008, 06:49
Does one really expect to get accurate color with Velvia? I recently used some 100f as my first Velvia experience. Interesting film. Got some great fall colors, but felt the overall effect was a little garish.
But these days, it all depends on how it scans. Akin to the original question posed in this thread, I'd be curious to know what others have experienced in scanning this film.
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25-Nov-2008, 10:07
Velvia 100 >2 mins - 2.5M
Velvia 50 1-4secs - 5M
5-8secs - 7.5M
9-16secs - 10M
17-32secs - 12.5M
>32secs - not recommended
Velvia 100F >1min - 2.5B
All of these and more can be found in the datasheets on Fuji's site http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/professional/films.html
Hi Joanna
I am aware of this, my question is do you do at the of shooting or post production.
Joanna Carter
25-Nov-2008, 11:46
I am aware of this, my question is do you do at the of shooting or post production.
At shooting. But, since I only use Velvia 100, Whether or not you use a 2.5M is really not that important :cool:
Harley Goldman
25-Nov-2008, 16:48
Does one really expect to get accurate color with Velvia? I recently used some 100f as my first Velvia experience. Interesting film. Got some great fall colors, but felt the overall effect was a little garish.
But these days, it all depends on how it scans. Akin to the original question posed in this thread, I'd be curious to know what others have experienced in scanning this film.
I am a long time Velvia shooter, but I really don't like 100F. I found it has some color casts. I like 50 the best, despite its slower speed and reciprocity issues. Don't consider 100F or 100 the full Velvia test. They are all different beasts. You should try them all and compare.
Joanna Carter
26-Nov-2008, 01:43
Does one really expect to get accurate color with Velvia? I recently used some 100f as my first Velvia experience. Interesting film. Got some great fall colors, but felt the overall effect was a little garish.
But these days, it all depends on how it scans. Akin to the original question posed in this thread, I'd be curious to know what others have experienced in scanning this film.
My experience with Velvia 100 is that it has a very neutral colour balance when compared with Velvia 50. Velvia 50 is just too saturated with a slight overwarmth for my taste.
If you look at my website, on the page marked France 2007, the image entitled "Épave, Toul an Héry" was taken on Velvia 100, and yet, is not at all saturated; the colours are extremely natural.
This picture was made on a day when the sky was mostly overcast but with the odd break in cover which gave a really soft, gentle light. Most of the other images on the same page were also taken with Velvia 100 and you should see that they appear to be much stronger colour but still very neutral. I do not tend to alter the saturation when scanning, most of my images are fairly much, as shot, in that regard.
One of the best tricks to use when shooting all the Velvias is to use a 2C UV filter when shooting, especially, coastal or high altitude scenes, anything where there is a high UV content to the light. With Velvia 100, he 2C helps avoid garish primary blues and reds and seems to give that very pleasing, strong but neutral, feeling to an image.
Jeffrey Sipress
26-Nov-2008, 10:34
Why go thru all the filtering and effort when you can just use Astia?
Joanna Carter
26-Nov-2008, 10:43
Why go thru all the filtering and effort when you can just use Astia?
Because, on a dull day, I want more contrast and the tonal range of the scene is less than 4 stops.
OTOH, I can use Astia to give me 6 stops range, for high contrast subjects; but, in that case, I would also use a polariser to increase the contrast.
It all depends on the final result that I want, and I have an ethic that dictates that I do as little as possible between camera and print.
roteague
26-Nov-2008, 13:52
My experience with Velvia 100 is that it has a very neutral colour balance when compared with Velvia 50. Velvia 50 is just too saturated with a slight overwarmth for my taste.
I don't find it overly saturated at all, although I do find it slightly warm (which I like).
I do agree about the UV filter, although I haven't found much use for them where I live, they do come in handy when shooting in the high country.
Why go thru all the filtering and effort when you can just use Astia?
Because some of us find Astia quite bland.
Jeffrey Sipress
26-Nov-2008, 15:47
Because, on a dull day, I want more contrast and the tonal range of the scene is less than 4 stops.
OTOH, I can use Astia to give me 6 stops range, for high contrast subjects; but, in that case, I would also use a polariser to increase the contrast.
It all depends on the final result that I want, and I have an ethic that dictates that I do as little as possible between camera and print.
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Well put, Joanna.
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