old Super Angulon 165/8 on copal shutter?

[Andrea Gazzoni]

Subject says it all... I am wondering if it's possible to mount the old Super Angulon 165/8 on a copal shutter. I am talking about the lens shown in the attachment, which comes in that strange "armoured" synchro compur shutter.
Any suggestion will help.

thank you
Andre

[Mark Sampson]

Pardon me for asking, but why would you want to change it? The Compur is a fine shutter. If it doesn't work, it's almost certainly repairable. The "armour" you refer to is there just to make the speeds eaier to set. It's probable that 165/8 SA's made later in production came with Copal shutters (I've never seen one), but I don't know if there would be a direct interchange.

[Peter K]

This lenses, mounted in Compur MXCRI, cannot mounted in a Copal shutter without to dismount the lens completly and remount it in a new barrel. So it's the best to clean and repair the shutter. BTW also the Zeiss LF-WA-lenses where mounted in this way.

The last series of the long SA's where mounted in Compur and Copal shutters, but the mounting of the lenses itself was different.

[Andrea Gazzoni]

Mark, the reason is more aesthetic than functional. I backpack with my 8x10 field camera and a giant 360 Symmar-S in copal 3, I have just bought this SA and was wondering if I can travel with just one shutter and two lenses... maybe not so convenient I know, just a thought
thanks

[Capocheny]

Andre,

If you still want to look into having it re-mounted into a Copal shutter, contact either S.K. Grimes or www.lensN2shutter.com for their advice. Both do good work.

Be assured, though, it'll probably cost MUCH more than just a few dollars to have the job done!

Cheers

[Peter K]

Andre,

the long and heavy lens parts will strain the threads of a shutter, specialy when the lens is transported in a backpack. These lenses where mounted in this special mount to avoid this problem.

Peter K

[Andrea Gazzoni]

thank you Peter

[Mark Sampson]

bardamu- in that case your question is entirely reasonable. I use both of those lenses on 8x10 but they don't leave the studio. I admire anyone who has the strength of will to backpack with 8x10 and those two howitzers. (They are superb optics.) But then I only take 4x5 into the field, and often I think my 121/8 SA (in that same type of Compur) is too big and heavy. Best of luck- of course a search through the archives here will give you lots of information on 8x10 backpacking.

[Andrea Gazzoni]

another question related: does anyone knows what's the lensboard hole size required for this lens?

thank you guys
andre

[Peter K]

another question related: does anyone knows what's the lensboard hole size required for this lens?
64mm, but a hole for a Compur #3, 65mm, will also fit.

Have fun

Peter K

[Daniel Unkefer]

barmandu,

It appears you have a lens similar to mine. The -Armour- you refer to, is the "Schneider Compur-(Special) Mount". At the time, it allowed for the use the use of the -smaller shutter- and the commensurate higher shutter speeds. Yours is mounted on an early Plaubel board, I see. Have it cleaned by a good repairguy if it needs it, move it to the board of your choice, and that's about it. An incredible lens, IMO.