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Gary Albertson
24-Jan-2001, 12:31
Should I assume that the new Schneider 80mm XL will be in short supply for quite some time and the prices held rather high until the feeding frenzy calms down? White's prices seem somewh at inflated for perhaps this reason. Is it possible to comparatively shop ye

Gary Albertson
24-Jan-2001, 13:05
Just to add, this would be my widest lens, then my 125mm Fuji. I am unsure how a center filter works and have read often how important it is with wider lenses. Is this an important addition if purchasing the 80mmXL

Paul Schilliger
24-Jan-2001, 13:35
Gary, one of the benefits of the aspheric design of the SS-XLs is that fallof is very well corrected. If the 80 behaves like the 110 or 150, you might never feel the need for a center filter. As for t he price, the first supplies are reaching the stores now. So it won't probably come down before a few months. I think Badg er's price is quite similar to RW's at the moment.

paul owen
24-Jan-2001, 14:52
Gary, If you can manage it then hang on!! The price will drop!! I was quoted about #1200 (UK pounds) back in the summer by Robert White, but I'm determined to wait until the price is right!! Regards Paul

paul owen
24-Jan-2001, 16:29
Gary As a matter of interest I just checked Robert White's web site, he is listing the 80XL at #975 (U.K.pounds inc VAT), it is coming down!! (SLOWLY!!)

Lars Michael
24-Jan-2001, 16:53
Badger Graphics sells the 80 XL for $1300. Not bad really. I am tempted.

I checked the charts, and the SS 80 XL has approx 2/3 of a stop more light fall-off in the corners than the SA 90 XL. I'm kinda getting second thoughts on this lens

Paul Schilliger
25-Jan-2001, 03:51
Lars, interesting discovery on light fall off! I could not find the tech specs o n Schneider's site but saw a center filter 3B listed for the 80 XL, same as for the 110. However, the small size and weigh t of the lens is really appealing. I will gladly trade my S-A 90/5,6 for the 80 Xl to lower the backpack weight and have a wider step down from the 110.

Glenn Kroeger
25-Jan-2001, 09:52
I know at least 2 people that have had the lens in hand since late December.

I wouldn't expect the price to change much. The 110XL feel dramatically twice, the second time due to increases in production by Schneider. The 80XL is starting at only $100 more than the 110XL. Since production costs cannot be dramatically different, I would be surprised if it ever dropped by more than $100-$200. The recent strength of the Euro isn't going to help either.

The performance data posted by Schneider is interesting in that it shows more falloff of illumination and MTF than I would have expected by just scaling down the curves from the 110XL. It would be very helpful to get some "real world" perfomance feedback on this lens.

25-Jan-2001, 14:30

The Schneider site used to carry tech specs on the 80/5.6 SSXL. If you email me your fax #, I can fax you all the info I have on this lens. Try Christoph Greiner (chr.greiner.photo@t-online.de) to see whether he can offer you a better price. Sorry, Jeff. Don't mean to hurt your biz :-)

Paul Schilliger
25-Jan-2001, 16:48
Got a PDF from Schneider today. Out of the appealing photo, a few specs are ment ioned: SuperSymmar 1:4,5 / 80 XL Aspheric. 5 elements (you have to see the weird lens design!) M67 Filter tread, M41 rear filter tread, Copal (or else) #0, weight 274g, overall length 51 mm, Image circle 212 mm at f2 2 (covers 5x7 tight), Center filter III b (1,5 stop) same as for 110 XL. That's really impressing me if I co mpare it to my Super Angulon 90/5,6 at twice the weight and size.

Gary Albertson
25-Jan-2001, 17:28
Lars, Could you explain further how the specs you read shows the lens to be a question able purchase?

Glenn Kroeger
25-Jan-2001, 23:35
It is interesting that Schneider has pulled the info and MTF charts on this lens off of their web site. We are left to guess why... were the charts wrong, or was Schneider unhappy about the reaction to them? It will be interesting to see if and when they return, and if they are changed.