Emulsion Magazine Status Update

[David Spivak-Focus Magazine]

Before anyone reads this, I am in no way affiliated with Emulsion Magazine. I do not control anything that happens with Emulsion, nor do I have any influence whatsoever over Aggie or anyone else on the staff of Emulsion. The purpose of this thread is to create a discussion about the current status of Emulsion magazine and to discuss its potential future. I am only someone Aggie has chosen to E-Mail about this. I have no knowledge if the information I've received is public knowledge or I am the only one to know. I can't even have the honor of saying that I am a friend of Aggie. All I did was e-mail her a few months ago and asked if there was any way, using the resources I have, I could be of any help to her. I recently received an E-Mail from her again discussing the things her son mentioned to me. To date, I have received one e-mail from her son and one from her. I have no knowledge that upon her recovering to full health whether or not she intends to continue running Emulsion and whether or not it will continue publication without her. It may or may not -- I have no knowledge of that whatsoever.

For those who do not know, Aggie has been extremely ill for a while now. I don't know for how long, but the illness is definitely a serious one. I cannot disclose what it is -- but if any of you had it, you would be down for the count for quite a while. There were two points in a recent E-Mail I received from a recent e-mail from Aggie. Number one: She is very sick. Number two: There has not been an overwhelming amount of support from the photography community. She does not feel that the level of support she received before she landed in the hospital warrants a feeling that no one really cared about Emulsion. I don't have specifics as to who is "no one", however; it can be assumed that a large majority of people who are in this community have not felt that Emulsion does not offer the content it wants.

Since I do not have the ability, nor desire to visit APUG, which I believe consists of over 10,000 photographers who sit and talk analog photography all day, it would be great if someone could post these questions over there:

First if you are a subscriber to Emulsion, what made you subscriber in the first place? Upon receiving your first three issues what did you like, what did you not like? What would you improve and how? What would you take away and why?

If you are not a subscriber to Emulsion, why are you not a subscriber? What have you heard about Emulsion that you made you not subscribe or have you never even heard of Emulsion whatsoever?

The purpose of this thread and other threads on other forums is to take a sample of the people who visit this and other forums and test the level of support. If there is an overwhelming amount of support, when Aggie is physically able to run the magazine again, I'm sure she will use this as motivation to run it. However, if there isn't enough support, maybe Emulsion just isn't a good idea and needs to be re-tooled.

What I can say for certainty is that when the owner of a small business is very ill, the business grinds to a halt. I do not, for one second, believe that the support or lack thereof is any reason why Emulsion has been suspended.

I'll start. I am not a subscriber. I chose not to subscribe to Emulsion because I felt the magazine was too niche. Then again, until very recently, I wasn't a subscriber to ANY photography publication as the magazines always arrived horribly damaged at my doorstep due to my horrible postman. This has recently changed. I do think that the world is overly digital and that in order to properly understand photography, one must understand the roots of photography, where it came from and how it came to be today. I know that there are a good 10,000 - 20,000 people in the world who continue to print traditional fine art photography... whether or not they do it well is another story. I think those numbers are enough to support editorial based on traditional photography -- but not just techniques. Editorial based upon the market for traditional photography along with a few galleries of photographers who print traditional photography... the newsstand is a hot place right now for fine art photography magazines. Publications such as LensWork, B&W, CamerArts, ViewCamera, Blindspot, Aperture and Focus are kicking ass and taking names on newsstands right now... even when the average American consumer has less money to spend due to higher fuel prices and interest rates on mortgages. I think Aggie has the right idea and with a little tweak here and there, Emulsion could re-launch into a very successful super-niche publication.

Whatever the results are of this and other threads on other forums, I do wish Aggie luck in a speedy recovery and I hope responses from this thread generate enough positive response for Aggie to continue Emulsion. I think there is an opportunity with David Vickers trying to start a new magazine for photographers and Emulsion's hiatus. I think the two of them should start a conversation... who knows what could result from that.

[davidb]

I posted this at APUG

[roteague]

Thanks for passing this along David. I'm not aware of Aggie's condition, other than what you have written here. I have met her in the past; we once went to see the last Star Wars movie together. Good lady.

I was promised a subscription for doing some work for the magazine, when it first started, but that never materialized, so I have not received any of the issues produced to date (although I have seen someone else's copy of the first issue). However, I did finally subscribe on my own last March. If the magazine gets going again, I will help Aggie and the magazine any way I possibly can.

[John Bowen]

I subscribe. Just as I subscribe to View Camera and LensWork. This seemed like an endeavor that someone like myself, who truly enjoys everything that traditional photography has to offer, should support. I've enjoyed the first 3 issues and hope to read many, many more.

[Eric Rose]

So tell us what's your REAL motivation behind asking these questions?

[Nate Battles]

I wish I knew about Emulsion Magazine. I would have been interested in it if I knew it existed. I am always interested in photo publications. I think the more photo publications in the world the better. Photography magazines and public interest help keep our hobbies/professions/photo supplies strong and healthy. I wish her the best.

[David Spivak-Focus Magazine]

So tell us what's your REAL motivation behind asking these questions?

To try to do the same thing I do every night Eric Rose: To try to take over the world!

As I mentioned to another photographer privately, it is my sincere hope that there is a lot of positive feedback about people wanting to support Emulsion in the future. Good news can do nothing but help Aggie feel better and get better. I have absolutely zero way of benefitting from Emulsion's success. I do not own or advertise in Emulsion, nor do you see a link under my post with anything to do with me or any of the companies I deal with. A lot of people, including myself would like to see Emulsion succeed.

[David A. Goldfarb]

I purchased a two year subscription to support the magazine, and so far, I've gotten three issues. If it succeeds, that's great, but if it fails, I won't feel too put out, since I knew going in that it was their first effort and this wasn't a group of people with a long track record in publishing.

I felt more put out by _Photovision_, since they had been in print for a few years when I bought a two-year subscription and had a very experienced editorial staff, and when they closed three or four issues into my subscription, the publisher tried to complete the subscription by substituting _Outdoor Photographer_, which was just offensive. I did get a refund check for the remainder of my subscription from that one.

[Kerry L. Thalmann]

So tell us what's your REAL motivation behind asking these questions?

Eric,

Let me start with a few disclaimers - just so my motivation and agenda are clear (hopefully):

1) I don't know David. Never met him.
2) I don't know Aggie. Never met her.
3) I don't work for Focus Magazine
4) I don't work for Emulsion
5) I do write for another magazine (View Camera) that some may consider a competitor to Emulsion and Focus (I don't - see below)
6) I speak for no one but myself

Now that that's out of the way (phew), here's my take on this issue - in general, not specific to Emulsion. For as long as I've been involved (pushing 20 years now), large format photography has always been a "niche" market. Lately, any type of traditional film-based photography could also be considered a "niche" market. It has always been my philosophy that to be successful in such small, niche markets the best strategy is not to try to pry additional market share from your competitors. The total market is so small to begin with, it makes little sense to me to try to grab a slightly bigger piece of such a small pie. I think a far better strategy is to try to grow the market - to make the pie bigger. I think that benefits everyone. It's the old strength in numbers cliche. It may be a cliche, but in our little world of ever vanishing products, I think it's the best course for survival.

I believe this applies to all involved in serving our little niche market - that includes camera makers, film makers, magazine publishers, etc. While they may be competitors within their specific sub-niches, ultimately they really depend on each other to keep the market for their products and services alive and well. It's really a snowball affect. If one competitor goes out of business or discontinues products, people begin to lose faith in the market and the market shrinks further. On the other hand, if new products and manufacturers are entering the market it gives the impression that the market is healthy and growing. Customer confidence increases, they buy more products, enjoy using them, tell their friends, etc. So, rather than a shrinking market, you have a potentially growing market and everyone benefits (customers, manufacturers, etc.). As they say, a rising tide floats all boats.

I've also always believed the best way to grow our markets is to educate potential members about the benefits of large format film photography. I believe magazines play a vital role in this education process, as do forums like this one and APUG. By helping beginners get over the initial learning curve, and teaching experienced users about new techniques or products it helps attract new members to our little community and keeps existing members involved and active. In the end, the result is (hopefully) more people buying equipment, more people shooting more film and more people reading magazines and participating in forums like this one. This encourages manufacturers to keep making their current products and maybe even introduce some new ones. It also encourages new businesses to target new products and services at our market. Again, strength in numbers. The more of us there are in the game, the longer we'll all get to keep playing.

That was rather long and full of cliches. I have no idea if it has anything to do with David's motivation. I hope it does, but again - see no. 6 above. It also may help explain that while I write for another magazine that some may consider a competitor, I honestly and sincerely wish Aggie the best and hope Emulsion can be a success. If we all work together to grow the market there will be more than enough room for more than one magazine to succeed. And, in the end we'll all be better off.

Kerry

[John Powers]

I received issues 2 and 3 of my subscription and enjoyed them very much. I felt there was a wide range of subjects covered, introducing me to work, thoughts and techniques that expanded my horizons. In the show business tradition of always leave them wanting more, I wish each issue had contained more of the same variety. I hoped this would come with growth in the subscription base. I enjoyed Aggie and her feistiness both here and on APUG. I hope she and the magazine can recover successfully and go forward. If my next two issues arrive and continue to grow in quality, I will happily renew my subscription. If not, then I will remember the magazine as an enjoyable experience. More important to me than the magazine is the wish, Good health to you Aggie!

John

[Doug Howk]

I subscribed and have received issues 1-3. Wishing Aggie a speedy recovery.

I have to wonder, though, about the paper & distribution model for magazines. It seems that much of the aggravation with Emulsion by those who created it revolved around printing. Then there is the aggravation of those who didn't receive their copy. Even the best-printed magazines usually winds up the the landfill. I currently only keep View Camera & discard the rest. With a decent monitor & computer (even libraries now have that level), a pdf/internet distribution model seems far more practical.

[David A. Goldfarb]

Internet distribution is more practical for folks like us, who are keyed into internet forums and such, but even in this day and age there are many people who don't really use the internet or computers if they don't have to, and I suspect that may be a disproportionate number among traditional photographers, who would be the audience of _Emulsion_ magazine.

[Wayne]

There has not been an overwhelming amount of support from the photography community. She does not feel that the level of support she received before she landed in the hospital warrants a feeling that no one really cared about Emulsion. I don't have specifics as to who is "no one", however; it can be assumed that a large majority of people who are in this community have not felt that Emulsion does not offer the content it wants.

Could you translate this into something that makes sense, without the double negatives? Whatever you are saying is clear as mud.

I subscribed to emulsion for 2 years, or so I thought. It turned out they didnt charge my card at that time and I just assumed they would. They also had made a mistake in the 2 years subscription price that I signed on for. Later, when I found out they didnt charge my card I was in a worse financial situation and couldnt afford it at that time, plus they wanted more money for the 2 years subscription that I had originally signed on for, so I never received an issue. I was pretty upset, because I really wanted to get the magazine. The fact that Aggie could be quite abrasive and irrational on forums (is this a prerequisite for photo magazine editors?) at times didnt make me want to give her my money either, and I kind of had a bad feeling that the mag wasnt under the best management, so I never bothered to resubscribe.

Nevertheless I certainly hope that Aggie recovers fully whether she continues the mag or not. I do hope that the magazine continues and succeeds for a long time, even though I have never seen an issue. I would definitely let bygones be bygones and I would like to subscribe if it started up again. I'm not going to subscribe on speculation though, I'm not that rich.

Wayne

[timbo10ca]

I received issues 1-3 as well, and had always wondered why the 4th never came. I enjoyed what I received and hope Aggie has a full speedy recovery.

Personally, I do not like to spend any more time in front of the computer than I have to. I especially don't like looking at pictures on a computer monitor- they just don't live up to their potential. I always wonder what the print actually looks like. A magazine is a far cry from the print, but it's heads and tails above a computer monitor. Well-printed magazines are the closest I will get to pretty much all of these great images. As a beginner on a very steep learning curve (well, seems steep to me, anyway) I subscribe to a few photo magazines and keep every issue to go back to, either for reference or inspiration. I feel the print quality of Emulsion makes it quite worthy to hang onto, and continue to receive.

I guess the only negative I would say is that there doesn't seem to be alot of content for the price, compared to other mags I get (but a heck of alot better than the ad- packed mainstream photo rags). I figured this was just due to it's infancy, and eventually content would come up to the price point as the magazine evolved and grew.

Tim

[Witold Grabiec]

Just wondering how to interpret this thread. I understand one needs to feel there is a market for a product before continuing, especially in such a hard to deal with times of personal illness. However, I've just visited Emulsion's web site. There is not a single word about contemplating dropping it or any other problems. Subscription page in all of its glory too. I can see how one might not want to tell the world about (at least) some of it, but from above posts I'm getting an impression that some subscribers have already not received everything they've paid for and they don't seem to have received any notification. Wouldn't one want to at least notify subscribers about delays? I think that under the described circumstances, a well balanced message should be posted on Emulsion's web site.

[John Powers]

Try to imagine how complex life must be for a one person magazine relying on so many people who probably don't always deliver on time or at all. Now throw in, a stop you in your tracks, medical situation. I would guess that her life is a little different from most of ours. We all have expectations. They probably aren't the same as Aggie's. The two issues I saw were pretty good. I hope there will be more, but I am trying to be patient. If she fails we have nothing. Everything above that is an improvement.

John

[Witold Grabiec]

I mentioned the "medical" situation in my post and I'm fully aware of what Aggie must be going through. There is nothing however, to stop someone from issuing a short message on the website. Website, that in spite of the personal situation, appears to be pushing the sale of the magazine. To me that's not a good business practice or a good way to find followers or supporters.

[David Spivak-Focus Magazine]

I mentioned the "medical" situation in my post and I'm fully aware of what Aggie must be going through. There is nothing however, to stop someone from issuing a short message on the website. Website, that in spite of the personal situation, appears to be pushing the sale of the magazine. To me that's not a good business practice or a good way to find followers or supporters.

I don't think you can do much work on a website when you're in the hospital with tubes stuck down your throat.... nor do I think it's priority #1. And yes, without going into specifics about her situation or her condition which is very serious, that is what is happening to her. I'm sure when someone is able to do so, a refund can be issued. It's quite easy to do so in paypal. I think we need to focus less on what the website is doing and more on what we'd like to see from Emulsion once Aggie gets better. I think in the grand scheme of things, someone spending and then being refunded $30 or so compared to the inability of the owner of the website/magazine to do pretty much anything. I think some people don't understand the severity of this... this is a situation in which she has been sick for a great deal of months now and does not seem to be getting better. Returning to the hospital to get tubes stuck down your throat isn't something they do for fun.

[Witold Grabiec]

FocusMag,
Your comments are far more out of line than mine. I have no idea how you got that far based on what I said.
You asked for feedback and there was mine. If your intent was to make it something else, please state so. I had no idea a magazine like Emulsions existed until I read your thread. Magazine itself sounds interesting and I wish I had a chance to see it. However, I did not get an impression from your post that this was a ONE person operation. If it were, I would have never expressed my feelings about a business that takes my money, does not deliver and does not even tell me about it. It's that simple. And again, I had stated my understanding of Aggie's personal situation. There was no need to delve into specifics of what's happening to her. I wish her full recovery (somehow, if one does not state, he/she must not mean it) . My comments however, remain.

[Dave Parker]

Most of us, that service the film photography business now a days are ONE man operations.....

Dave

[David Spivak-Focus Magazine]

FocusMag,
Your comments are far more out of line than mine. I have no idea how you got that far based on what I said.
You asked for feedback and there was mine. If your intent was to make it something else, please state so. I had no idea a magazine like Emulsions existed until I read your thread. Magazine itself sounds interesting and I wish I had a chance to see it. However, I did not get an impression from your post that this was a ONE person operation. If it were, I would have never expressed my feelings about a business that takes my money, does not deliver and does not even tell me about it. It's that simple. And again, I had stated my understanding of Aggie's personal situation. There was no need to delve into specifics of what's happening to her. I wish her full recovery (somehow, if one does not state, he/she must not mean it) . My comments however, remain.

I am not privvy to the staff arrangments at Emulsion Magazine. I do not know if Aggie is, like Steve Simmons, Brooks Jensen, Tim Anderson and myself all are the end all and be all of our publications.

Anyway, it can assumed that since Aggie has not been well for a good long while and the website has not been updated, that Aggie is the one updating the website or that the person who is in charge of the website cannot do his or her job without Aggie's help. Though I can understand it would be more desirable to have an announcment to subscribers and visitors of the Emulsion website, that printing and distribution of the publication has been suspended indefinitely, obviously that would require time and effort -- neither of which I am sure Aggie has much of when it comes to anything to do other than her health.

My original intent in creating this thread was to garner interest and conversation based soley around the present and future status of Emulsion. You stated you had not heard of it before you read this thread. One thing that is EXTREMELY difficult is marketing when you run a very small business. I hope that you do get the opportunity to read the 4th issue if and when it is published. I hope that I get that opportunity as well.

[roteague]

Aggie is basically clueless when it come to doing websites; she isn't the one that updates the site. I don't know who is updating it these days, it used to be updated by a fellow over on APUG. But, without her, nothing can be done to the site.

[IanG]

Like many others I'm very dubious of the motives of a large proportion of the original post.

It's not the time or place to be critical of what has or hasn't happened with Emulsion Magazine when Aggie is in no position to air her own position & feelings about the magazine's future.

Aggie needs all our support, and I wish and hope she makes a full and speedy recovery..

Ian

[eddie]

i subscribed. i enjoyed the magazine. i too think a magazine is better than the internet.

the only thing i would suggest is making more!

i have never gotten any response to any questions i have had. none fro email and none from good ole snail mail! makes me wonder......

[jnantz]

i was sent a complimentary issue.
it was a nice magazine ...

start-ups are not easy, it doesn't matter what kind of business.
lots of hats for 1 person to wear ...

i hope aggie feels better and gets well soon.

[roteague]

Like many others I'm very dubious of the motives of a large proportion of the original post.

David is on the level. I'm convinced that his information comes from Aggie's son, and that he isn't pushing any kind of agenda.

[David Spivak-Focus Magazine]

David is on the level. I'm convinced that his information comes from Aggie's son, and that he isn't pushing any kind of agenda.

Not really sure why some people would think I would be making this up. I've always been a supporter of other photography magazines and have publicly and privately said how much I respect and enjoy them. I do not believe for one second that any of my numbers would all of a sudden rise by any dramatic sense if any of the photography magazines, including Emulsion, went belly up. There's enough diversity in the field that there's something for everyone and if one of them went belly up, no one else could offer what that magazine offered its readers.

Anyway, you have what you need as 100% proof this isn't something from my mind. As I stated, again, the original purpose of this thread is to hopefully provide support for Emulsion. I know there are many people on this and other sites that are all about traditional photography -- here's your magazine guys and your chance to say in public what you'd like this magazine to have. I'm a little surprised/dissappointed there hasn't been more of a response to this.

[Geary Lyons]

I'm a little surprised/dissappointed there hasn't been more of a response to this.


Generally speaking, folks may have trouble with the concept of buying fresh milk from the "honey wagon".

YMMV!
Cheers,
Geary

[Ole Tjugen]

... There has not been an overwhelming amount of support from the photography community. She does not feel that the level of support she received before she landed in the hospital warrants a feeling that no one really cared about Emulsion. I don't have specifics as to who is "no one", however; it can be assumed that a large majority of people who are in this community have not felt that Emulsion does not offer the content it wants. ...

I'm still struggling to make head or tails of the quoted paragraph.

I wish Aggie all the best and hope she's soon back on her feet and fit for fight.

[tim atherton]

I only saw one copy, but I got the feeling that amagazien that was pretty much based on a sort of negative concept and was essentially reactionary probably wasn't off to a good start to begin with.

Add in that it wasn't really promoted that widely and I'm suprised it lasted as long as it did.

[IanG]

To clarify what I said in my previous post and roteagues reply:

"Originally Posted by roteague
David is on the level. I'm convinced that his information comes from Aggie's son, and that he isn't pushing any kind of agenda."

We (Roteague & I) have exchanged PM's and I stated clearly "The details of Aggie's problems etc are not the issue, it's the way he parcelled it up."

I don't feel that FocusMag's original post was totally honest and purely informative, information was not clearly stated and seems cloaked in a hidden agenda.

There was a lot of lively debate on APUG, where this post was cross posted, which was unfortunately deleted by a moderator who is also taking part in this thread here.


I'm a little surprised/dissappointed there hasn't been more of a response to this.

Had your original post been more objective, simple and focussed I'm sure response would have been far greater.

Before finishing I just re-read your original post, it constantly refers to you:

I am in no way affiliated
I do not control anything
nor do I have any influence
I am only someone
I have no knowledge
I am the only one to know.
I can't even have the honor o
I could be of any help to her.
I recently received an E-Mail
I have received one e-mail
I have no knowledge
It may or may not -- I have no knowledge of that whatsoever.

And that's just from the first paragraph. Later you go on to ask why people bought and read "Emulsion Magazine" surely none of you business particularly in this post.

Hardly any of your post was about the unfortunate medical situation Aggie is in, and there were no suggestions of how anyone might help.

I have to compare this to the response on APUG 18 months ago when a popular poster had to undergo chemotherapy and where a number of people offered and gave him a lot of help & moral support.

Ian

[roteague]

I think David is just trying to keep everyone from jumping to the wrong conclusion about why he posted what he did, that is all. Why Aggie chose to write David, only she knows, but she chose him to be the conduit to the photographic community, and I think that we need to respect her decision.

There is no doubt in my mind about David being on the level. He really has nothing to gain otherwise. Emulsion is no threat to his magazine, nor does he lose or win by its either dying or starting anew.

[Geary Lyons]

IMO, this thread was "DOA"! Any regular visitor to this forum knows why.

I think that it is important for our community to wish any member good health and luck, especially when they are having challenges.

I have known Aggie for over 5 years. We were formerly "neighbors". I will start a thread for "get well and best wishes" that, hopefully, not be perceived as tainted, as this thread obviously is, I'm sure that the wishes will somehow make their way to Aggie.

Cheers,
Geary

[IanG]

Whatever FocusMag's motives for the original post, it was unfortunate in its structure and incomprehensible messages.

First and foremost is Aggie's health, Geary has posted a separate thread (http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?t=32484).

Second is discovering the status and possible future plans of Emulsion magazine, this appears to be totally dependant on Aggie regaining good health, no co-workers appear to be prepared to take any responsibility and come forward.

Perhaps what David should really have been saying is:

As some of you may already know Aggie is seriously ill, and there is no knowing when she will be in a position to resume working on Emulsion magazine.
Meanwhile the magazine is on hold, please be patient. Then apologies to subscribers etc............

Ian

[David Spivak-Focus Magazine]

Ian, when I want you to speak for me, I'll let you know. Capiche? You know, it's people like you that give online forums a bad name. I've come here, out of my own kindness, taking my time to relay a message to members of this forum that Aggie is in poor health and to garner ideas as to what could make Emulsion a better publication. That's it. Anyone else who wants to sit on their little soapbox and pretend I'm doing this for some other reason, needs to get their heads examined, because that's just absolutely sick and disgusting. I'm done here.

[lee\c]

maybe you should get Aggies permission before you stick your head and ass in Emulsions business.

lee\c

[Eric James]

...You know, it's people like you that give online forums a bad name...

Yes pot, the kettle is black.

Consider focusing on your own magazine:

http://photo.net/neighbor/view-one.tcl?neighbor_to_neighbor_id=330821

[roteague]

maybe you should get Aggies permission before you stick your head and ass in Emulsions business.

lee\c

Aggie wrote him directly. I would say that gives him permission to be involved. If you had read the thread, you would have realized that.

[lee\c]

roteague after he wrote her if I read the first post correctly.

lee\c

[vickersdc]

Guys, can we stop this thread now?!

I realise that if you've paid for something and not received it, that's an emotive issue. The problem with emails / posts on threads / etc. is that there is no intonation and things can be read and misread.

But, please - can we stop all the character assasination? Could we please all agree to wish Aggie a speedy recovery and leave it at that? For me, this thread is just degenerating into a seething mass of hatred. (OK, perhaps a bit strong(!), but you get the point).

David Vickers.
http://creativeimagemaker.co.uk

[Mark Larsen]

I would give Emulsion a try.

[copake_ham]

I hate to be the skeptic throwing the dirty sock in the punch bowl - but there's just too much mystery here.

I am (was) a 2-year subscriber who also got only 3 issues.

I'm hearing now about unmentionable illnesses. Quite frankly, WTF? In this day and age, what illness is "unmentionable" and so "horrible" etc.

We're film photogs here - and all grownups. We've seen wars and plagues and 9/11 horrors - so what is it with this supposed "illness" thing that cannot be mentioned?

And how much is this tied to the SatinSnow situation with the purported murder/suicide - and another bunch of pre-paid buyers left with butkus?

I'm sorry, but without some greater amount of transparency and full disclosure - I think the OP is not informative at all as to where either my five missing issues or a refund for the same can be found!

[Marko]

I'm hearing now about unmentionable illnesses. Quite frankly, WTF? In this day and age, what illness is "unmentionable" and so "horrible" etc.

We're film photogs here - and all grownups. We've seen wars and plagues and 9/11 horrors - so what is it with this supposed "illness" thing that cannot be mentioned?


It is obviously the one that affects someone else and not you and your insensitive likes.

BTW, you are on the wrong board.

[Dave Parker]

George,

I have not worked on Emulsion for several months now, and have not spoke to Aggie since Sept. So it has nothing to do with me. Basically the only thing I did do with emulsion in the past was to check the pre-press status. Mentioning me in this thread is un-called for, as I have nothing to do with the magazine or its publication schedule. You just wanted to take a stab at me.

I am still producing and shipping screens. So, there is no butkus there, my customers are receiving their screens as I produce them. You have no orders on file with me, so what was your point? As far as your insensitivity, I am not going to address that portion of your message.
Dave

[Ted Stoddard]

What I can say is that what ever the problem with Emulsion it's not going to be fixed anytime soon, its best just to wish Aggie well and for a speedy recovery(and I have never met or even talked to her personally ever)... As for taking a stab at Dave Parker and Satin Snow I agree with Dave it was uncalled for, I am sure that at one time or another each one of us had some kind of unforseen problem come up at one time or another... I personally have gone through more than I care to discuss on a public and open forum... I support all Large Format business and film based businesses as much as I can... I am not a rich person as I work for myself doing what I love and that is film based photography... What Dave went thru last year and is still going through is never easy... He is trying his best and thats all that matters and has nothing to do with Aggie's situation... So that is my 2 cents worth... Hope all goes well for everyone dealing with there own problems... Good Luck To All and be Well...