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rknewcomb
14-Dec-2007, 06:20
Hello,
Does anyone know what the weight of a Linhof 8x10 Kardan Bi camera might be? This is not the hugh beast model, but the one that looks like the 4x5 kardan S. I am asking about the 8x10 model though.
Thank you very helpful people.
Robert N.

Peter K
14-Dec-2007, 06:41
Robert, without a lens it's 8200 gramme = 18 pounds (avdp).

Peter K

rknewcomb
14-Dec-2007, 07:09
Thanks for the weight information. The reason I am asking is that i was wondering if this camera could be used on location. I thought about maybe with a shorter rail if it would be too bad to take on location. Maybe wishful thinking. I am not a backpacker at all. Although, I have hauled a 14x17 wooden camera around at times.

Robert N.

Peter K
14-Dec-2007, 07:29
Compared with the Kardan or the Kardan-Color 8x10 (40 pounds avdp.) the Kardan-Bi is realy light-weight. And with more adjustments as the Kardan-Color. The camera can be easily dismanteled for transportation and mounted in no time. Also stable with the heaviest lenses.

Peter K

Bob Salomon
14-Dec-2007, 07:46
Thanks for the weight information. The reason I am asking is that i was wondering if this camera could be used on location. I thought about maybe with a shorter rail if it would be too bad to take on location. Maybe wishful thinking. I am not a backpacker at all. Although, I have hauled a 14x17 wooden camera around at times.

Robert N.

One of the reasons the B system was designed with a 360 degree swing function on the front and rear standards was so the bellows could be disconnected from one standard, held compressed on the other standard with a rubber band or strap and then both standards could be rotated so they are parallel with the standards. The camera would then be very convenient to carry in the field. An attache style case was made for convenient field transport of the camera.

Do be aware however that all current Kardan RE, GT and GTL accessories fit the B series except for those items that attach directly to the monorail. Thus extra rails, rail clamps and auxiliary standards have not been available from Linhof for decades. The 8x10 B had a 25" (640mm) monorail. To get full extension you will also need the no longer available 12.5" (320mm) extension rail and the no longer available auxiliary standard.

When you ask for the weight was it for the basic camera with basic rail or for the extended rail version?

rknewcomb
14-Dec-2007, 08:25
The camera that I was asking about has the 25 inch rail only. I think part of the question is that I've heard so much about how amazingly heavy the Kardan Color is/was and it may be scaring me a little. I can't rally invest a hugh amount of money in a camera that can only be used in a studio - need for it to do double duty.
Robert N.

Peter K
14-Dec-2007, 08:45
This is the standard rail with 630 mm. There was an extension rail aviable with 320mm. With this extension rail one can use the whole 1000mm bellows extension of the 8x10 bellows. With more extension rails, standarts and bellows there is no limitation at all.

Peter K

Michael Nagl
15-Dec-2007, 07:41
Thanks for the weight information. The reason I am asking is that i was wondering if this camera could be used on location. I thought about maybe with a shorter rail if it would be too bad to take on location. Maybe wishful thinking. I am not a backpacker at all. Although, I have hauled a 14x17 wooden camera around at times.

Robert N.

Robert,

all I can say is I managed to get my 5x7 Bi-Kardan wherever I could get with an odd cart I made out of an old pram - to carry the thing, it would take a more athletic person than I am. And while I love the camera for the incredibly high level of craftsmanship and effort it was made with, I still must say, a field camera it is not.