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chris_4622
10-Dec-2007, 15:43
Hi,

I have a project photographing light bulbs, both in settings and in groups lined up. They have different color temperatures. I haven't heard yet what the temperatures of this batch of bulbs will be, I'm guessing in the range of 2800 to 3800. Here is a sample of what I'll be photographing: www.borealislighting.com.

Can someone recommend a film to use. I'm not sure if T-64 is what I need for this. All of these will be indoors.

thanks,
chris

Kirk Gittings
10-Dec-2007, 15:57
LED's are not necessarily the same color temp as incandescent or halogen, they can be daylight balanced or pretty much anything. A color temp meter would be very helpful. Plus you cannot take the word of manufacturers about the color temp of their products. You will very likely need both daylight and tunsgten film. Holding the color in the bulb itself will be an issue if the bulb itself is the main light source, in which case you will need substantial fill light of appropriate color temp. and do some significant pull processing in addition. You will want some of the lower contrast llower saturation films. If the client only wants files I would actually shoot color negatives.

David Karp
10-Dec-2007, 16:08
If you can shoot negatives, maybe Fuji NPS will work. It does a pretty good job with a wide variety of light sources. Never tried it with LEDs. I got out of the lighting business just as LEDs were starting to become commercially viable for some general lighting purposes.

vinny
10-Dec-2007, 19:25
The problem with consumer led's is the color temp being consistent. I made a DIY light source for a 8x10 enlarger with cheap led's and the color isn't consistent from lamp to lamp. By the looks of the lamps you'll be using, they'll be enough in a group to provide a uniform color temp at a distance. You should find out the temp before picking up film. In my line of work, we have 3200k and 5600k led's. But they are very expensive lighting units designed for motion picture use.
vinny

CG
11-Dec-2007, 11:23
I'm curious. are you doing a commercial shoot of their bulbs - or a personal project?

On a quick look at their website, it looks like they have a variety of color temps available. If you can select one that matches the film you want to shoot with - maybe that's one way to start.

You may end up filtering to bring these up to specs no matter what.

1. Shoot a test.

2. Process and evaluate color balance.
3. Set up a test filter to bring it closer.
4. Shoot another test

Repeat 2, 3, 4 till happy

Best,

C

chris_4622
11-Dec-2007, 15:34
Thanks for all the responses.
This is more of a personal project for friends. I will learn more in the weeks ahead. I'll find out if they have a color temp meter. I will probably take Kirk's advice and use color negative film.

Again thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise in this matter.

chris

Eric Rose
11-Dec-2007, 16:01
use B&W film, soup it in PyroCat-HD and color the bulbs in PS. That's my advice.

Ole Tjugen
12-Dec-2007, 00:29
use B&W film, soup it in PyroCat-HD and color the bulbs in PS. That's my advice.

I was thinking of something similar, but I wouldn't use Pyrocat-HD. After having tried Windisch' Extreme Compensating Pyrocatechin developer for one of these extreme-range situations, that's what I would use. The original recipe, not the "updated for modern films" one.

Vaughn
12-Dec-2007, 04:35
Include a color chart in each shot of different type of light? Might help to balance the color when printing.