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panchro-press
3-Dec-2007, 07:01
Ok guys, you got me. What does 'bokeh' mean?

David A. Goldfarb
3-Dec-2007, 07:10
In photography "bokeh" refers to the visual quality of the out of focus image. It comes from a Japanese word that means "out of focus," that can also refer to things like absent mindedness and senility.

The quality of the out of focus image was considered to be very important in the age of soft focus lenses and was often described in lens advertisements and catalogues, and then somewhere in the 1960s and 70s, when sharpness became the prime consideration to the exclusion of everything else, most photographers stopped paying attention to this issue, even though many images contain large areas that are out of focus.

As I see it, sharpness is about figure, and bokeh is about ground. Usually the figure is more important than the ground, but the ground isn't irrelevant.

wfwhitaker
3-Dec-2007, 08:29
One of the best discussions of bokeh that I've found:

http://www.vanwalree.com/optics/bokeh.html

Preston
3-Dec-2007, 08:42
Thanks for the info!

I gave my girlfriend a bokeh of orchids. She liked them because they were pleasingly soft. ;-)

-PB

Andrew O'Neill
3-Dec-2007, 08:56
Boke is from the Japanese word boketeru which means stupid, or senile. Someone's thinking is not clear or just plain wacked. So in photography, boke refers to the out of focus or "unclear" areas.
I know this word very well as my wife says "boketeru" to me all the time. It's pronounced bo-ke, not bo-kay.

Randy H
3-Dec-2007, 09:47
And supposedly, correct usage of "bokeh" helps to enhance the photo, and draw the eye to the more imprtant details of the picture. Following is a link to an "art" page that made the use of bokeh a little more "comprehensible" (for me anyways)
While the site deals more with "colour" combinations, it goes into detail about using peripheral "noise" to enhance an image. Good reading if you go through it all.
http://webexhibits.org/colorart/index.html

roteague
3-Dec-2007, 11:04
And supposedly, correct usage of "bokeh" helps to enhance the photo, and draw the eye to the more imprtant details of the picture. Following is a link to an "art" page that made the use of bokeh a little more "comprehensible" (for me anyways)

I saw a guy at the office a week or so ago, taking pictures with a little digital P&S using the LCD. I asked him why he wasn't using the viewfinder, and he told me he was interested in the "bokeh", and couldn't see it any other way. I about fell over laughing.

Randy H
3-Dec-2007, 12:16
did you ask him if the "bokeh" was that little wreath of smoke that curls off the end of the joint? Or is it the colours you can hear after lhe microdots?

roteague
3-Dec-2007, 12:54
did you ask him if the "bokeh" was that little wreath of smoke that curls off the end of the joint? Or is it the colours you can hear after lhe microdots?

Hmm..... didn't think about that.

I just asked him if he actually knew what bokeh was, or was it something he heard on some internet group - he just gave me a smart ass answer, about how long he had been taking pictures.

nelsonfotodotcom
3-Dec-2007, 12:59
Panchro; the following are 35mm frames, an 85/2 on a Nikon F4s. While not LF, the bokeh is quite evident with this lens. The 85/2 Nikkor makes some very nice bokeh, in my opinion.

http://nelsonfoto.com/mein/forsale/nikkor_85_f2_ai/01.jpg http://nelsonfoto.com/mein/forsale/nikkor_85_f2_ai/06.jpg http://nelsonfoto.com/mein/forsale/nikkor_85_f2_ai/02.jpg

Ken Lee
3-Dec-2007, 13:04
Vintage 150mm Braunschweig Heliar

panchro-press
3-Dec-2007, 13:48
Thank you one and all.

Dave

Jim Fitzgerald
4-Dec-2007, 10:00
Ken, I love that Heliar. Here is one with the Seroco 5x8 F-5 portrait lens wide open.

Jim

Daniel_Buck
4-Dec-2007, 10:07
an interesting little thing I did a few weeks ago:

http://danielbuck.net/hikingblog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/dof_run_01.gif

Hugo Zhang
4-Dec-2007, 16:52
Daniel,

What's going on at the upper left corner? Is it animated?

Here is one with a Dallmeyer 12" F/3.5 Portrait Anastigmat lens wide open with my old Kodak 2D.

jb7
4-Dec-2007, 17:09
Beautifully composed shot Hugo-
I'm sure it'd make a lovely print-

That looks like an interesting animation of depth of field effects-
Digitally captured, I presume?

joseph

Hugo Zhang
4-Dec-2007, 17:17
Thanks, Joseph! I did frame it and mount it on the wall in my office yesterday.:)

Daniel_Buck
4-Dec-2007, 17:20
Yes, that was with a 1Ds2 and 135mm f2.0. I ran through all the apertures. It's pretty sweet looking at it larger. Was done for a 'behind the scenes' portion of our latest project. Just posted up a small version on the web that would load fast.