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Wayne Crider
22-Jul-2007, 10:52
I need a small 150mm to fit a recessed standard on a Auto Graflex, not Graphic. The opening is 2 & 7/8th's square. I would like something coated and would need to be able to see the aperture and shutter speed settings, and also have the ability to attach a 90deg shutter attachment for a release should I choose not to use the cloth shutter. Ideas?

Ole Tjugen
22-Jul-2007, 11:27
Germinar-W or G-Claron, both 150mm f:9. At least among "modern optics".

an alternative is the Xenar 150mm f:5.6, also in a #0 shutter.

Nick_3536
22-Jul-2007, 11:38
The Fuji W is also in a #0 shutter. 46mm filters so bigger then the Claron.

Dave_B
22-Jul-2007, 11:51
The Schneider G-Claron f9 is the smallest and lightest 150 I own and I have a pile of 150mm lenses. It is also a fine performer when stopped down.
Cheers,
Dave B.

Ron Marshall
22-Jul-2007, 11:53
Have a look at Kerry Thalmann's lightweight lens page, he shows several candidates:

http://www.thalmann.com/largeformat/mid-rang.htm

David A. Goldfarb
22-Jul-2007, 12:50
The 150/4.5 Xenar is pretty small--40.5mm filter thread, but Compur 1 shutter. I'm not sure if it also might exist in a Copal 0, since other lenses about that size fit in a Copal 0.

Walter Calahan
22-Jul-2007, 12:51
Why not a Kodak Ektar 152mm f/4.5 with an auto diaphragm?

Ole Tjugen
22-Jul-2007, 13:17
Neither of the two last mentioned are in a #0 shutter. Schneider limited the aperture of the f:5.6 Xenar in order to make it fit in a #0 shutter. The f:4.5 Xenar (which is older and very common) is in a #1 shutter.

Dave_B
22-Jul-2007, 18:27
I have the Schneider Symmar 150 f5.6, the Schneider Apo Symmar 150 f5.6, the Nikkor-W 150 f5.6, the Nikkor-SW 150 f8, the Fuji-W 150 f5.6, the Schneider G-Claron 150 f9 and the Schneider Xenar 150 f4.5. The G-Claron is the smallest by a lot.
Cheers,
Dave B.

Ernest Purdum
22-Jul-2007, 19:31
I am wondering if the recess is deep enough for a 150mm lens to focus at infinity?

Wayne Crider
22-Jul-2007, 19:50
Even if the F9 Claron is the smallest, I don't know how it is going to go over looking at an old GG. I might have to look elsewhere or alter the front standard. Btw, this is a 3x4 camera.

Just looked at Kerry's page the F5.6 Xenar takes 34mm filters. Performance falls off pretty fast at the edge tho. Maybe on 3x4 it wouldn't be so bad

Dave_B
22-Jul-2007, 20:21
My G-Claron is mounted in a Seiko shutter. The most distant levers are just at 2 7/8 inches in diameter. If the hole were square, these bits could be aligned along the square diagonal and would probably fit. I've never had much trouble focusing the f9 G-Clarons. It doesn't look like any Copal number zero shutters will fit if mine are any guide. They look like they need a hole 3 1/4 inches in diameter to mount in. You may also be able to align some of the most extended pieces of the shutter along the diagonals but it looks pretty tight.
Good luck,
Dave B.

Wayne Crider
23-Jul-2007, 20:06
My G-Claron is mounted in a Seiko shutter. The most distant levers are just at 2 7/8 inches in diameter. If the hole were square, these bits could be aligned along the square diagonal and would probably fit. I've never had much trouble focusing the f9 G-Clarons. It doesn't look like any Copal number zero shutters will fit if mine are any guide. They look like they need a hole 3 1/4 inches in diameter to mount in. You may also be able to align some of the most extended pieces of the shutter along the diagonals but it looks pretty tight.
Good luck,
Dave B.

Thanks Dave, that is too tight for me. I think I'll have to alter the front standard to get what I would like.