Which brand light stand?

[Oren Grad]

Can anyone recommend brands to look for - or to avoid - for a light stand that will provide stable support for up to a ten-pound strobe head or monolight plus a large softbox?

[Kirk Gittings]

I have been using the same Bogen stands for almost 30 years now. They have been used extremely heavily on location, and they show allot of wear, but have never given me a single problem in 28 years to be exact.

[vinny]

americangrip.com
3-riser steel baby stand
call because i think their prices are discounted
these are the best light stands made. hands down

[Capocheny]

Oren,

My unit is made by Manfrotto/Bogen and has a counter-weight on the one end.

Pretty reasonably priced too! :)

Cheers

[Frank Petronio]

I seem to disagree with Kirk about so many things, and inspite of my pro-Italian stance, I hate all things Manfrotto. Their cast parts crack, their plastic parts disintegrate, and their aluminum -- well I guess they do aluminum tubing OK ;-) But I just think their designers are loopy with all their strange connectors and latches and whatnot. Maybe Kirks 30-year old stand is better than their new stuff?

Lowel stands are slightly heavier but they are all metal, reasonably priced, heavy-duty, and repairable with off-the-shelf parts.

Considering the TSA likes to dismantle my lightstands when I travel (I guess I just give off that terrorist drug dealer vibe) the Lowels are easy to put back together.

PIC brand stands are similar (but not from the same factory I think), but Lowels are plentiful. They also come in fly color combinations, like Titanium and Gold. You'd want the Grand stand and a few Omni stands for reflectors and what not.

Matthews makes really nice, heavy duty stuff for the movie industry. If price and weight are not a barrier, theirs is probably the best. Manfrotto also has a heavy duty movie grip line called the Avenger series -- but usually this is overkill.

[Nick_3536]

http://www.giottos.com/LC.htm

I've got a few 325s. Price is reasonable. Rated for 10kg. The heaviest light I've got is less then 10lbs. But even with a 5' octobox it seems stable. Obviously outdoors it would be a sail.

[Ted Harris]

I've got some old steel ones with wheeled legs that flip up for transport. Those are indestructible and now pushing 40 years old. I've also got a couple of newer ones from Calumet that work fine but worry me in terms of their stability if cranked up too high .... same problem with any of the aluminum stands taht aren't weighted.

If you are looking for performance and a very low price call Jim at Midwest, he was telling me last week about a new line of stands that they are carrying that are sturdy and very inexpensive.

As others ahve n=mentioned, if price and weight are not the object then the steel types I hae and others mention are the best. BTW, Kirk's 30 year old stands probably are this type!

[Henry Ambrose]

If you're traveling with your gear the 625 Manfrotto is a nice compact stand and will just do the job with a small softbox or umbrella. But they're not the first choice for studio use. They're not very tall and not very heavy duty but they fly well. They are lighter than a similar Lowell stand and they don't last forever.

A major brand of C stand is what you want for anything but air travel. Vinny suggested American Grip C-stands - a well proven choice. I have Avengers and consider them equal to Matthews or the Century. Any of the steel versions are heavy duty enough to last a long long time. Aluminum is fine too but may not be as strong (but strong enough and lighter). As Ted mentioned Jim at Midwest is a good resource and not just for new stuff. He usually has some used grip equipment, old heavy stuff thats basically unbreakable is and repairable from the hardware store if it does break. Old heavy stuff is wonderful unless you have to move it a lot or have lots of help to do the moving. I see lots of old C stands in grip rental houses that looks like it was made 50 years ago thats still going strong. A big old steel C stand is a lifetime purchase.

No one has mentioned sandbags. You NEED sandbags for safety of your gear and especially safety of the people who work around and in front of your lights. Home made is fine but be sure all your stuff is weighted down.

And you might consider a short boom for a big box and light combination. Balanced gear does not turn over so easy and there is less stress on the stand/boom arm/light mount, etc.

[Rider]

What do people think of the light stands that White-Lightning sells?

[Jack Flesher]

I use them all and find them fine -- after all, they just need to hold the light ;) For a 10 pound head, you'll want to get at least a medium duty size and avoid the smaller, lighter models. I like Bogen/Manfrotto for location work and Matthews C-stands for studio. I use sand bags on all of them to add stability.

[Kirk Gittings]

Maybe Kirks 30-year old stand is better than their new stuff?

Possible. I haven't even looked at their new stands in years. I have also been using Bogen tripods and heads for decades with no problems except when I ran over one once and then when I dropped one down a cliff, but geez......what do you want?

[Henry Ambrose]

What do people think of the light stands that White-Lightning sells?

I've seen them at their shop here in Nashville and they look OK to me but I've never used them. I'd classify them as medium duty I suppose? For all-day-every-day work you might want stouter gear but for less strenuous use they'd be fine.

[Oren Grad]

It's astonishing how many different models turn up once you start to dig. There's certainly a whole world of very expensive, very heavy-duty stands designed to take a pounding on movie sets and the like - a far cry from me puttering around my living room...

Anyway, thanks to all for the input. The mental gears are grinding now; I'll report back on what I end up with.

[robert]

I use mole-richardson stands and lights

[David A. Goldfarb]

I have a variety of Bogen stands, and they seem to have held up well for the light-to-moderate use I give them. Mathews stands are beautiful. If I had a permanent studio or heavier needs, I'd go with those.

When they start to clutter up the house, get a Lightware rolling stand case. I just got the 42" model, which holds a Bogen C-stand (the one that holds my Norman 10" Fresnel head) and all my smaller stands, boom, and a few other odds and ends like umbrellas and such.

[C. D. Keth]

Lowel stands are slightly heavier but they are all metal, reasonably priced, heavy-duty, and repairable with off-the-shelf parts.


Second the Lowel stands. There are sturdier stands out there but not ones as cheap or as light. IF you can manage to break them, they're quick to fix.

[Oren Grad]

And the answer is...

I ended up getting a couple of the Giottos 325 stands (thanks, for the suggestion, Nick!). Only about $50 each, rated for a load of up to 10 kg, and air cushioned.

Construction is a bit chintzy, as you'd expect at the price. In particular, the clamps seem to depend on a screw compressing a little piece of metal which in turn compresses a couple of rubber bumpers against the tube. I imagine the little metal chip will fatigue in due course from all the flexing.

But I've set them up a couple of times so far, and they seem to do OK under one of my strobe heads with speed ring and medium softbox, which amounts to maybe 8 or 9 pounds total. And if one of the clamps fails, the air cushioning should help in avoiding a sudden collapse.

So these will do for now.

A couple of folks recommended Lowel stands. I have a pair of lightweight Lowel stands as part of my Tota kit, and they work fine with those very lightweight lamps. But they're much too flimsy to handle a big strobe head, and Lowel itself warns against using them for anything really heavy. Perhaps Lowel has some other models designed for heavier-duty use.

Thanks again for all the advice!