Poll: Would you buy Delta 3200 if it becomes available in 4x5?

[Ron Marshall]

If Ilford offers Delta 3200 in 4x5 would you buy it?

[Ed Richards]

At least a little to have around for hand holding. Some sort of quickload would be perfect, so you would have to tie up holders for it.

[David A. Goldfarb]

I'd actually prefer it in sheets, so I could load it in my Grafmatics, but it's probably a moot point, since Ilford would have to gear up in a major way to be able to offer packet films.

[Ralph Barker]

I'd like to see it in 8x10, as well.

[BrianShaw]

Too fast for me.

[Andrew O'Neill]

Also in 8x10 but I'd settle for 4x5. I think it would open up a whole new area for us LFers...the price has to be reasonable too.

[Capocheny]

It all depends on the situation... like everything else!

You wouldn't use a 25 pound hammer to pound in a finishing nail but it would be great to have if you had to pound in a 12 inch spike!

In other words... the right tool for the job!

Cheers

[Renee Galang]

imagine it in 11x14! I can only dream......

[Patrik Roseen]

Yes, I would be using it for handheld 4x5".

I would be interested to understand if this kind of speed would put extra demands on how light tight your total logistic is, i.e. changing bag, film holders, bellows, internal reflections etc.

I am assuming that there might be this kind of light already today in the system, but due to reciprocity effects (too low light energy) they would not show up on a 100 film but could prove enough to effect a 3200 film. Or is this a no-issue?

[Ron Marshall]

Yes, I would be using it for handheld 4x5".

I would be interested to understand if this kind of speed would put extra demands on how light tight your total logistic is, i.e. changing bag, film holders, bellows, internal reflections etc.

I am assuming that there might be this kind of light already today in the system, but due to reciprocity effects (too low light energy) they would not show up on a 100 film but could prove enough to effect a 3200 film. Or is this a no-issue?

According to Ilfords data sheet (link below) the true speed of Delta 3200 is 1000.

Of course it may be pushed to 1600 or 3200 in a suitable developer. But even at 1000 an extra 1 1/3 stops over 400 would be nice for handheld.


http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/pdf/delta3200.pdf

[David Karp]

I think for me that for most applications it would be useful in 8x10, and especially useful in ULF sizes. I might use it in 4x5 from time to time, but probably not much.

[CXC]

Too fast for me; can't imagine using it in any size.

[scott_6029]

I'd like to see it in larger sheet sizes, like 8 x 10 and 7 x 17.

[Donald Brewster]

I love it for 35mm, like it for 6x7, but I'm not sure why I'd use it for LF.

[Tom Duffy]

It would be great to use with a handheld Technica or Graphic. I would use quite a bit of it.

[Bruce Watson]

If Ilford offers Delta 3200 in 4x5 would you buy it?
Absolutely.

There have been a number of occasions when a couple of sheets of Delta 3200 would have been very welcome. More times than I can count I have been forced to spend an hour or more hand-on-shutter-release waiting for that two second lull on a windy day. A couple of times this has happened in an on-again-off-again drizzle. Not a lot of fun, that.

If you don't want motion blur from blowing vegetation, this is what you have to do. Unless you have another couple of stops of speed available. Going from 1/8 to 1/30 makes all the difference with shots like these.

Since grain is really a non-concern with 5x4 and bigger, while small apertures are the norm, I can use all the speed I can get. I'll put my money where my mouth is too -- if Ilford will sell me Delta 3200 in 5x4, I will absolutely buy it.

[jackies]

Go for it - "If you build it, they will come."

jackie

[Joseph O'Neil]

I'd order a 100 sheet box. As for Delta 3200 actually being 1000 ASA, I learned that long ago when I was shooting it in 35mm.

What I really miss is Delta 400 in 4x5, so I would snap up Delta 3200 in a heartbeat.

joe

[Oren Grad]

I would try some for handheld 4x5.

[Leonard Metcalf]

Without hesitation... would be great for my hand held 4 x 5 work..

thanks, Len

[Scott Davis]

I'd be interested for 8x10, where reciprocity becomes more a factor, since you really NEED to use those smaller f-stops. It would help cut down on the amount of custom-processing for each sheet of film you have to do. My other criteria would be that it would need to process well in Pyro developers. Since I'm primarily an alt-process printer now, I wouldn't want something that doesn't take proportional stain.

[Andrew O'Neill]

To Rob Skeoch,

Steer Simon towards this thread. Seems to be quite an interest.

[Robert Skeoch]

Yes, it would be great. i'd shoot some.
-rob skeoch
www.bigcameraworkshops.com

[Ken Lee]

Looking at the Ilford literature, it seems to have wonderful properties. I would love to try some in 4x5 and take it for a test drive in my Pyrocat HD.

Bring it on !

[brian steinberger]

I'd much rather see them make Delta 400 in 4x5 sheets

[Robert Skeoch]

I'd like to see Delta 400 and 100 in the three common sizes. 4x5, 5x7 and 8x10.
However, that's a different question... so yes to 3200 for me.
-Rob

[roteague]

I have no need for anything that fast in 4x5.

[alec4444]

I'd buy this in a heartbeat for my 11x14. Wow, now that would be something!

[Diane Maher]

I'd buy it in 8x10 & 5x12.

[mq57user]

Hi,
frankly, before I would take up the Ilford 3200, I would prefer to stick with the Rollei R3 in sheet film. It gives the possibility to vary the film speed according to one's needs from ISO 50 to ISO 6400 without problems and, depending upon the developer used, gives outstanding results. I can see the Ilford being interesting for artistic effects due to the large grain, but otherwise...I am not that convinced. Greetings, Duschan

[mq57user]

Hi,
frankly, before I would take up the Ilford 3200, I would prefer to stick with the Rollei R3 in sheet film. It gives the possibility to vary the film speed according to one's needs from ISO 50 to ISO 6400 without problems and, depending upon the developer used, gives outstanding results. I can see the Ilford being interesting for artistic effects due to the large grain, but otherwise...I am not that convinced. Greetings, Duschan

[r.e.]

If Ilford offers Delta 3200 in 4x5 would you buy it?

Was this a theoretical question, or is there a prospect that it might happen?

[BradS]

Oh, heck yeah! I'd be all over that stuff.

Simon Galley, bring it on!

(please?)

[alec4444]

Was this a theoretical question, or is there a prospect that it might happen?

Yeah, I think it was theoretical...with the hope that if enough people said "yes" that Ilford would release it. I think such petitions would probably be more effective in writing, and would not garner any attention without a couple thousand signatures per format desired.

--A

[Ken Lee]

Have any of the BTZS people taken the film for a test-drive - and have anything to say about it ?

[David A. Goldfarb]

Was this a theoretical question, or is there a prospect that it might happen?

Simon R Galley from Ilford asked on APUG what the interest would be, so there is a prospect that it might happen--

http://www.apug.org/forums/forum187/28015-ilford-photo-harman-technology-need-ulf-feedback.html?highlight=delta+3200

http://www.apug.org/forums/forum172/28014-ilford-photo-harman-technology-sfx-film-ulf-film-new-prods.html?highlight=delta+3200

[Jim Noel]

No!

[cobalt]

Would without question not only be interested, I'd buy it. Several boxes, as a matter of fact.

[Ed K.]

Wow! Amazing to see so many "yes". I wouldn't, because dr5 push processed HP5 is fast and modest to low grain with full tonal scale and possibly as much real speed. Sure, it comes out positive, but it's neat. HP5 at 800 looks fantastic. I think they can bump it a notch or so from there.

If only they could do Pan F in sheet, that would be nice for me.

For me, "no", unless it would help others to keep Ilford going...

[Jim Ewins]

I didn't like it in 35mm and gave the 120 away. HP-5 is fine

[Neil Purling]

The prospect of enabling instantaneous hand held exposures with my Graphic.
I would welcome Delta 3200 in 4x5 sheet. After use of the 35mm version I found the grain was far better than T Max 3200.
I would be very surprised if Ilford actually released it in 4x5 though.

[evan clarke]

I live in the snowbelt and this 3200 LOVES snow and nakes trees, just beautiful. Simon hinted at this on APUG and I have been prompting him occasionally. Last week, John Sexton saw the thread and expressed his interest... I have money saved up for it!!!!..Evan Clarke

[John Powers]

As time goes by and we hear nothing about T Max 400 in LF and ULF sizes I would be happy to buy Delta 3200 for reciprocity reasons in 8x10 and 7x17.

John

[BradS]

Can you imagine (I can) shooting a basketball game indoors with a handheld Crown Graphic? Now, that would be fun.

[kjsphotography]

I would love to use it for night time images. Would be a heck of a lot better than dealing with long times due to reprocrosity.

Could be really interesting opening up a while new world.

[bartf]

Yes, I'd buy a few boxes.

[Sergey Botvin]

I'd buy it too. I also would love to see XP2 in 4x5 format :)

[Neil Purling]

XP2 was available in 4x5. I had some out of date stuff come with a job lot but it hadn't been kept right and ended up throwing it away. Delta 3200 would be more useful.

[Marco Annaratone]

Interested only in 8x10. I would certainly buy it.

[Don Wallace]

No, I wouldn't buy it. Just my two cents for the poll.

[DrPablo]

I just shot a 120 roll of it at ISO 12,800, developed for 30 minutes in xtol 1:1. Pretty impressive stuff, and on 120 the grain was acceptable. There is a lot of night photography I miss out on because the exposures need to be so long. It would work really well for star trail photography -- imagine that in 8x10!

[Andrew O'Neill]

I would try it.