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G Benaim
6-Jun-2006, 00:02
Well, I'm trying to go light w my Gowland 4x5, and need to get a smaller, lighter tripod head. The camera w lens and holder weighs under 4lbs. I've been using a pistol handle ball head that's great but weighs as much as the tripod legs. So, I'm open to suggestions, but would like to keep the price low (around $60-75), buy used, and buy something readily available. As a bonus, it would be great if it could handle my Hasselblad gear, including the 250mm lens I use most. I was looking at the bogen ballheads, but was unsure which to get. If any of you have used or currently use a similar setup, tell me your likes and dislikes. As always, all help greatly appreciated,

GB

Jack Flesher
6-Jun-2006, 07:26
Lightweight, sturdy, used and inexpensive... That is a tough order. This reminds me of an expression we used in the design-engineering field: "You can have it cheap, fast or well built -- pick any two."

I would consider a used Gitzo 3-series 'rational' pan-tilt head and then cut all the knobs down short and bend the last inch at the end to 90 degrees so you have a handle to twist them with. Presto, cheap, relatively lightweight yet sturdy enough for your Hassy with a 250 (barely).

Brian Ellis
6-Jun-2006, 08:34
I had a Bogen ball head for a short time. I didn't like it, the ball didn't move smoothly, you had to exert a little force to get it to move and that made it almost impossible to make small incremental adjustments. I don't know what to recommend, I'm sure others will. A friend uses an Acra Tech (sp?) that is very small and light but I think it costs quite a bit more than your budget.

CXC
6-Jun-2006, 10:37
In that price range, you will probably be better off just looking to support the Gowland, forgetting about the Hasselblad.

I have used my Gowland with a short lens on top of a cheapo Velbon tripod with its standard little ball head. With short lenses you can go really small. Usually I don't like ballheads, but maybe they can be tolerated in the name of ultramegalightness.

Don Hutton
6-Jun-2006, 10:43
Get an Acratech ballhead - it weighs a pound; put it on a Gitzo 1228 and you'' have an incredibly light sturdy set-up - I have even used it on a 2 week trip with an 11lb 8x10....

Ron Marshall
6-Jun-2006, 11:26
I have the Acratech, great head, but beyond the price range.

Here is an option that I have no personal experience with, but the specs are promising, holds 16# and weighs about 1/2 #:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=288439&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

David Karp
6-Jun-2006, 11:44
It is not a ball head, but you might want to try a Manfrotto 3028. Under $30, light, easy to use. I use one with my Walker Titan 4x5. If you want to dress it up, you can add an Arca style quick release base to it. That is what I did, and it works great. The Gowland is so light I am sure that the 3028 will suppport it.

Oh yeah, I don't know about a Hasselblad, but it also supports my Mamiya 645 Pro just fine.

Patrik Roseen
6-Jun-2006, 11:49
I know it is common procedure to use a 'heavy, sturdy but hopefully lightweight tripod' with a ball head for 4x5.

FWIW, I have been using my SLIK 35S for outdoor photography to hold my 4x5 Linhof Technika III using the three one-directional tripod head with a tightening handle for the vertical movement (like those found on video tripods) that came with it back in the early eighties. To make it horisontal the attachment plate can be tilted sideways (maximum 90 degrees).
For my 'kitchen and livingroom' experiments I do have a Gitzo studex tripod that weighs a ton and which is equipped with a ball head. My experience though is that it is far easier to handle the 'video tripod' head than the ball head for which it is really easy to loose the grip of the camera since one does not always know in which direction it will 'fall' when the ball is released.

So why not also look into the tripod heads found on light weight video tripods (find one in aluminum ofcourse - not the cheap plastic ones).

archivue
6-Jun-2006, 12:21
maybe just a levelling head...

Andrew Ito
7-Jun-2006, 00:17
I'd second the Acratech. It's light, and grips tight, but again, it's a bit out of your price range. You may be able to find a used one or call the guys at Acratech. They sell factory cosmetic seconds for fairly cheap. If money weren't an issue I'd go with a Markins. They rock.