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Iga
20-Mar-2024, 12:22
Anybody tried Agfa G 354 x-ray fixer with normal black and white films ?
Can't find exact data sheet, but looks like usual sodium thiosulphate stuff at 1 / 10 of Ilford price ...
TIA

nolindan
20-Mar-2024, 12:37
Fixer has a high markup. The cheapest is to buy 50lb/25kg bags of S. Thiosulfate crystals. Cost from China is ~$0.25/kg for small orders. $0.10/kg if you buy by the tonne. Shipping extra, suggest a slow boat from China.

Kino
20-Mar-2024, 13:10
With a bit of research to insure purity, you can find Sodium Thiosulphate from a swimming pool supply company.

It is used, among other things, to reduce chlorine levels in pool water. You might have to get pentahydrate crystals, but it works just fine with appropriate compensation for the extra water.

Tin Can
20-Mar-2024, 15:24
We used pool chem 27 years ago

All prints were mounted and show no problem

Big chunks dissolved quickly

We mixed in double ended trays at a college

Now I use TF5

domaz
20-Mar-2024, 21:02
It's no TF5 but it works for me: https://www.digitaltruth.com/data/formula.php?FormulaID=156

Iga
20-Mar-2024, 23:41
Thanks to all for quick and informative answers.
But what about Agfa G354 fixer ? Anybody used it ?
It is 3,90 Euros for 1L vs 16 Euros for 0,5L Ilford Rapid fixer.

From Agfa pdf :

G354 is Agfa's standard, single-part, non-hardening
fixer for both manual processing and automatic
tabletop processing. It emits less process-specific
odors, while maintaining its high quality

G354 fixer gives high-quality results for processing a
wide variety of X-ray films, including double-sided blue
or green films for conventional radiography, laser films
and duplicating films.

The majority of chemical substances used in common
developers and non-hardening fixers dissolve readily
in water and do not excessively evaporate into the air.
The G354 fixer, however, contains an acetic acid pH
buffer and sodium sulphite to prevent the fixing salt in
the fixer from decomposing. Due to the higher pH, the
emission of both acetic acid and sulphur dioxide using
G354 has been greatly reduced

Michael R
21-Mar-2024, 02:23
Is this a current product? I couldn’t find much more information than the Agfa PDF and some relatively uninformative SDSs. That it comes in liquid concentrate form to be diluted suggests it is a rapid fixer (ammonium thiosulfate). For general purpose films do a standard clearing test to check/determine fixing time.

Doremus Scudder
21-Mar-2024, 10:21
+1. Michael has your answer