Lenses for 5x7 wet plate recommendations needed

[socal]

I am looking for good portrait non antique lens for an 8x10 wet plate with a 5x7 adapter back. not techy on this. would like under 1k.. thanks for any help.

[xkaes]

Do you currently have any lenses?

[Mark Sawyer]

300mm f/4.5 Tessar, perfect for 5x7 portraiture, traditionally a little short for 8x10 portraiture, but you can pick up a longer lens later. Coated is better, and you don't need a shutter. The Russian Industars are usually around $100, Xenars and others around $200.

[Greg]

300mm f/4.5 Wollensak Velostigmat Series II in a Betax No. 5. With or without diffusion settings of the front element... personally never liked this optic's diffusion settings. Some people swear by them though. Traded my Velostigmat with diffusion settings for a pretty much mint one with out the diffusion settings. Never have I had a problem with Betax shutters and that's since the late 1970s.

[mhayashi]

I am not sure when you say non-antique lenses, but here are some lenses for 8x10 and 5x7 portrait.

For under 1K,
Xenar 300mm f4.5 in compound V or f5.6 in copal 3
Heliar 300mm f4.5 in compound V
Plasmat 300mm f5.6 in copal 3 from Nikon(W), Schneider(Non L), Fuji(CM or non CM, not C), and Rodenstock(N series)

Certainly you are not asking the old brass petzvals, right?

[maltfalc]

projector lenses (non-zoom). fast and cheap(ish). buhl, leitz, kodak, lots of options. image circle usually roughly matches focal length. russian projector lenses are dirt cheap but some are just unusable junk. industar-37 300mm f/4.5 is popular for wet plate. enlarger lenses aren't the fastest, but there are some really sharp f/5.6 lenses out there.

[socal]

i have a studio century 8x10... i have two lenses one that needs repair...still trying to figure out if they are working lenses. both lenses are about 100 yrs old and i would like to use modern lenses. i have several inserts to make several sizes of plates so i am asking this particular size 5x7

[socal]

interesting. i imagine whatever is chosen a lens board has to be made with the proper falange.

[socal]

i will look at these, thank you

[socal]

I am not sure when you say non-antique lenses, but here are some lenses for 8x10 and 5x7 portrait.

For under 1K,
Xenar 300mm f4.5 in compound V or f5.6 in copal 3
Heliar 300mm f4.5 in compound V
Plasmat 300mm f5.6 in copal 3 from Nikon(W), Schneider(Non L), Fuji(CM or non CM, not C), and Rodenstock(N series)

Certainly you are not asking the old brass petzvals, right?

yeah, when i say non antique i am looking for a more modern lens that can provide more depth of field and when i buy i can be guaranteed it is in good shape.

[mhayashi]

For 5x7 specific,

240mm f3.5 Xenar in Compound V shutter or f4.5
240mm f3.5 Heliar in Compound V shutter or f4.5
240mm f5.6 plasmat in copal 3. Brands as mentioned as above.

[Mark Sawyer]

yeah, when i say non antique i am looking for a more modern lens that can provide more depth of field and when i buy i can be guaranteed it is in good shape.

Presuming the same focal length and aperture, the depth of field will be the same across all designs, old or new.

[socal]

projector lenses (non-zoom). fast and cheap(ish). buhl, leitz, kodak, lots of options. image circle usually roughly matches focal length. russian projector lenses are dirt cheap but some are just unusable junk. industar-37 300mm f/4.5 is popular for wet plate. enlarger lenses aren't the fastest, but there are some really sharp f/5.6 lenses out there.

thank you i am looking at these too...good info.

[socal]

Presuming the same focal length and aperture, the depth of field will be the same across all designs, old or new.

thank you

[FeS2]

Has anyone seen this...

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/vari-focus-camera-obscura-lens.205675/

Any comments?

fg

[xkaes]

Fujinon made lots of 250mm and 300mm lenses -- old style (barrel) or new (Copal) -- some inexpensive:

http://www.subclub.org/fujinon/byfl.htm

[jnantz]

Has anyone seen this...

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/vari-focus-camera-obscura-lens.205675/

Any comments?

fg

reinohld made (still makes?) some great lenses! he might still have some in stock.
beautiful thing about his lenses, aside from them being machined works of art is
he also sold Waterhouse stops, so if you wanted to stop down to 22 or 32 you could.
there might be a lens or 2 that he made for sale in the classifieds here...
he also made guillotine shutters ...

OP you might also look into Schneider Symmar Convertible lenses .. they made them in a bunch of different sizes and configurations. I have a 210/370 ( it is a chrome barreled vintage ) they throw a large circle. Schneider used to "brochure" them as a portrait / landscape lens when converted. ... I can attest, they make nice portraits and stopped down sharp as nails.

one thing ... though, when used in the longer configuration, it takes more bellows than the FL suggests. for example the 370 I use needs about 450mm of bellows to be at infinity ... with that portrait camera you have you won't have any troubles..

there's the 135/235, 150/265, 210/370, 360/620 and probably a few more I can't remember ..
they're typically sleepers, found in copal shutters, but wet plate you won't really have to worry about any of that ..

[Vaughan]

The Fujinar 250mm (or 25cm) f4.5 lens covers about 286mm. In huge Shanel 5 shutter, or barrel. IN the Shanel 5 shutter they appear to be common on Rittreck View 5x7 cameras (the shutter was made by Rittreck).