Interesting article in the local news today.

[munz6869]

An innovative Sydney photographer: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-11/canberra-photographer-sammy-hawker-processes-film-with-saltwater/103444912

Marc!

[Vaughn]

Thanks for the read! Very cool!

[Mick Fagan]

Thanks Marc, very interesting and thought provoking.

[monochromeFan]

ummm rather dull...

[paulbarden]

ummm rather dull...

I'm waiting with baited breath for the day you actually have something positive to say. It hasn't happened yet.....

[Duolab123]

Nice article. Creative people are very cool!!

[monochromeFan]

Nice article. Creative people are very cool!!

Whats next, smearing peanut butter on them?

Did you look at the "boat launch developed negatives" that were drying on a string in the sun? If you noticed carefully, most of them were solid clear or black before she did anything to them... not exactly anything creative.

[calebarchie]

Hey Marc, how's that laser graphics treating you?

If you are in Canberra any time in the next month, perhaps check this out - it is a similar approach.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C3EYKL8PBAS/?igsh=ZTVlaXV5a2VzMXh0

[jnantz]

its great to see people thinking outside the box
thanks Marc!

[jnantz]

Whats next, smearing peanut butter on them?

Did you look at the "boat launch developed negatives" that were drying on a string in the sun? If you noticed carefully, most of them were solid clear or black before she did anything to them... not exactly anything creative.

kind of sad, from the first days you have posted here you just have negative things to say about others' and their works yet you don't show any of your own.
not everyone has the same ambitions in photography which is good, because 99% of all the photographs produced since 1839 have been really really boring.

[John Layton]

John sometimes I look at my own work and think that maybe I've got that percentage beat...by about (more like at least) .99%! :eek:

[jnantz]

John sometimes I look at my own work and think that maybe I've got that percentage beat...by about (more like at least) .99%! :eek:

wasn't a slight towards anyone in particular, but most photography is as earth shattering as watching grass grow but it floats the maker's boat, and that's all that really counts, isn't it ? ;)

there's gonna be a giant dumpster fire when im gone, but im enjoying myself like you ..

[Mick Fagan]

Whats next, smearing peanut butter on them?

Did you look at the "boat launch developed negatives" that were drying on a string in the sun? If you noticed carefully, most of them were solid clear or black before she did anything to them... not exactly anything creative.

I've noted over the decades, that that is how many artists work; somehow they seem to create something from nothing.

Has to be heaps better than peanut butter, after all a peanut is not a nut and it isn't a butter. :D

[monochromeFan]

I've noted over the decades, that that is how many artists work; somehow they seem to create something from nothing.

Has to be heaps better than peanut butter, after all a peanut is not a nut and it isn't a butter. :D

using a salt water bath to remove random bits of emulsion from a negative that has no image on it... is not photogrpahy nor is it creativity.


And if you read up about the mighty peanut, youd realize your trespassing into rather bad political ideology with that peanut comment.

[jnantz]

using a salt water bath to remove random bits of emulsion from a negative that has no image on it... is not photogrpahy nor is it creativity.
I’d love to see some of your photographs …do have a website or link to a host. I don’t care film. digital large or minimalist format .. or will it blow your cover?

[paulbarden]

I’d love to see some of your photographs …do have a website or link to a host. I don’t care film. digital large or minimalist format .. or will it blow your cover?

He’s not going to do that. He’d be exposing himself to backlash. You can’t troll a group once people know who you are.

[Drew Wiley]

If it's spelled "analogue" it must really be artsy.

[John Layton]

but most photography is as earth shattering as watching grass grow

Hey...I'd love to watch grass grow - it would be fascinating I think...maybe even earth shattering! :rolleyes:

[Drew Wiley]

Watch grass grow, then have to mow - it's that time of year again.

[Joe O'Hara]

Developing film in the field is pretty hardcore (not to mention voluntarily wrestling with a Mamiya C330). I have to admire her grit and originality. Some of the images are strange and compelling, to me at least.

Sydney Harbour water certainly brings something to the process that I never considered-- seeing as how many of us here expend so much time and effort trying to keep things clean and under control. Time and the atmosphere are going to degrade our pictures eventually no matter what we do, so why not embrace the corrosion and see where it takes you. Not recommended when working for a client, however.

Appreciate the heads-up, Marc!

[Vaughan]

Sydney Harbour water certainly brings something to the process...

Hmmmph. REAL photographers do it in water from Homebush Bay.

(The suburb of Rhodes, adjacent to Homebush Bay, was an industrial area that included many chemical factories like Union Carbide, where they made pesticides, timber preservatives, plastics and herbicides including Agent Orange. It was remediated around 2000 at enormous expense and is now high-density residential but the marine life in the bay and adjacent Parramatta River still have high levels of dioxins.)

[ic-racer]

Good for her! Film is a magic medium!
I hope she is an inspiration to young artists that want to explore photography.

[Michael R]

Watch grass grow, then have to mow - it's that time of year again.

You don’t have a gardener for that?

[John Layton]

While at the U. of Rochester eons ago...we'd joke that as we were downstream from the Kodak folks we could just dip and dunk our exposed films directly into the Genessee River for developing!

[Drew Wiley]

Michael, the only kind of help I can afford is called moles and gophers; and the cats get to them - occupational hazard. Meanwhile, both my gas trimmers are in the shop for repair. Too rainy these past several weeks to do yard work anyway, except for raking up all the downed branches. When I get a dry day, I'm out chasing the clouds with a camera.

[jnantz]

He’s not going to do that. He’d be exposing himself to backlash. You can’t troll a group once people know who you are.

probably right, but there's always a glimmer of hope ... LOL

[Michael R]

probably right, but there's always a glimmer of hope ... LOL

I think for some people it's a kind of gut/instinctive reaction to anything they don't personally like getting "airplay"/recognition. I've been guilty of this myself on occasion when something just sets me off because I find it to be a gimmick in a mature artform (and this is a thing in ALL artforms). Actually come to think of it I remember once long ago on APUG you took issue with a similarly dismissive comment I made about photographs a guy was making (I can't remember his name - something like McCaw maybe?) using aerial lenses pointed at the sun which would result in arcs literally burned through the film. I was not impressed, but others evidently thought it had merit. Just an example.

In the end these sorts of reactions are always just a combination of personal taste and bitterness. It doesn't mean they are necessarily wrong, but then there are always others who are simply shattered by any sort of negativity, and that is basically how these threads go.

[jnantz]

I likes macaws work! I think it was the wet plate photographer in Bismarck or something. I mean I liked some of the portraits but the weird photo of some scantily clad woman with a fossilized jellyfish in her mouth changed my impression lol. I am not usually like that but I think i has collodion overload.. the difference is that hopefully i have added something useful before and after my unfortunate short sighted obnoxious comment…

[Michael R]

I likes macaws work! I think it was the wet plate photographer in Bismarck or something. I mean I liked some of the portraits but the weird photo of some scantily clad woman with a fossilized jellyfish in her mouth changed my impression lol. I am not usually like that but I think i has collodion overload.. the difference is that hopefully i have added something useful before and after my unfortunate short sighted obnoxious comment…

Hey remember that guy on APUG who used to make those somewhat weird wet plates (I think) of people and sometimes celebrities? He was very popular on the forum - like every time he posted an image there would be tons of comments "love it!" "superb!" etc. Then one time somebody said something like "I don't understand this" and the photographer's reply was "you=idiot" and he left the forum in a huff. Good times.

[jnantz]

Illumiiquest? His portraits are pretty amazing.. he was doing paper negatives before WP. I remember some image purists were not liking his methods…. I do t recall the idiot comment but there are a lot of opinions out there …. I seem to remember early riser claiming his camera was invisible and he shows reality ( his images looked like an acid trip ). .. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ photography is fun. Might as well enjoy oneself.. easier than ever to make photos…