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Memento Mori
25-Jan-2024, 09:02
Hi guys n gals, I want to be able to use my flashes for studio and field portrait work…on my Pacemaker. Is it the classic Norelco/Philips AC power cord that has the correct end to fit the lens 2pole male connector? Beyond that I think I have it sorted…hot shoe adapter that sits on my cold shoe, cabled to lens or focal plane poles. Flash controller on the hot shoe/cold shoe triggers my units.
I just have to use T with the focal plane shutter, set sync mode to X when connecting to lens poles.

I’ll just cut/solder/heat shrink the shaver cord end onto the PC sync cord.

Anyone with experience they’d like to share?

Tin Can
25-Jan-2024, 09:13
I have used very thin stranded wire wrapped carefully

Low temp solder quickly

on my Focus-Spot

Dugan
25-Jan-2024, 09:32
Hi,
Yes, I have used a Norelco razor cord to splice together a sync cord for use with a two-pin vintage shutter sync.245852

BrianShaw
25-Jan-2024, 09:38
Unlike some other folks on the internet, I've had neary 0% success using old razor cords. I even took a shutter to an electric razor repair shop (amazingly, one still exists in my area) and could not find one to work. Generally they are way too tight for comfort. But since this hack has been touted since the 1950's, at least, I must not have the right attitude. :)

I now regret not buying more from Paramount before their demise and treat those that I have with extreme reverence. Both bipost and solenoid cords are getting really difficult to find in good condition. Usually the insulation is hardened.

I have no suggestions other than keep a keen eye out for the cord you need and buy without hesitation when you find one.

Memento Mori
25-Jan-2024, 09:53
Hi,
Yes, I have used a Norelco razor cord to splice together a sync cord for use with a two-pin vintage shutter sync.245852
Great, thought so. I've just ordered the Norelco, the pc, and the hot shoe adapter. Thanks!

BrianShaw
25-Jan-2024, 10:01
Great, thought so. I've just ordered the Norelco, the pc, and the hot shoe adapter. Thanks!

Please let us know of yur success. I'd LOVE to be proven wrong. :)

Like you, I'm always in need of sync cords with a bipost terminal.

maltfalc
25-Jan-2024, 13:20
https://www.bizlinktech.com/products/detail/1075/TYPE+CW2751+%282-poleSafety+class+II%29

jp
25-Jan-2024, 16:00
I have a Paramount cord.. If I didn't, I'd probably use insulated small insulated alligator clips or the mini-hook test leads on the posts for something temporary.

Memento Mori
15-Jun-2024, 21:19
Well Brian, sorry to take 6 months to respond but I had to go through the full journey to hell and back (chemo radiation treatment for reoccurring cancer) and I'm just now present enough to do so.

Yes, it worked a charm! Some delicate cutting and soldering and heat shrink tubing and bingo. It's only 2 wires that connect or don't, so the center wire and the mesh outer "wire" get soldered and wrapped separately too the 2wires from the Norelco plug/2 pole wires.
Good luck!

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BrianShaw
16-Jun-2024, 06:38
Well Brian, sorry to take 6 months to respond but I had to go through the full journey to hell and back (chemo radiation treatment for reoccurring cancer) and I'm just now present enough to do so.

Yes, it worked a charm! Some delicate cutting and soldering and heat shrink tubing and bingo. It's only 2 wires that connect or don't, so the center wire and the mesh outer "wire" get soldered and wrapped separately too the 2wires from the Norelco plug/2 pole wires.
Good luck!

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Glad to hear that you made it through your treatment, and built a synch cable. Thanks for the update. Two significant accomplishments! :)

jnantz
16-Jun-2024, 16:58
Hi guys n gals, I want to be able to use my flashes for studio and field portrait work…on my Pacemaker. Is it the classic Norelco/Philips AC power cord that has the correct end to fit the lens 2pole male connector? Beyond that I think I have it sorted…hot shoe adapter that sits on my cold shoe, cabled to lens or focal plane poles. Flash controller on the hot shoe/cold shoe triggers my units.
I just have to use T with the focal plane shutter, set sync mode to X when connecting to lens poles.

I’ll just cut/solder/heat shrink the shaver cord end onto the PC sync cord.

Anyone with experience they’d like to share?

also glad it worked !

usually if you aren't using bulbs you'd typically be advised that some of these press cameras that have body plugs are only synched with bulbs
this is true for graflex sir's too .. I remember a guy in my building back in the day was excited to tell me he got his 4x5 adapter on is 3x4 graflex slr
back from the repair guy. .. he had his assistant burn like 4 boxes of polaroid film and all the exposures were 1/2 blocked by the shutter ...
for many the rule of thumb is if you are using a modern "strobe" and not a bulb set up ... you might have trouble ..

Memento Mori
16-Jun-2024, 19:01
Also J, what worked for me as far as shutter speed and modern flash is this... I used the focal plane shutter (barrel lenses) set to T. Figure out my flash strength using my digital. Handhold my flash trigger. Click the graphic shutter, immediately hit the trigger, both flashes do their thing. Hit the graphic shutter again to close. Done. All within 1 second. Click/trigger/click.
Obviously this won't work with too much ambient light but it worked for me! (I'm using Tech Pan iso 20. Might be much harder with 400iso film)
Cheers[emoji106]

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jnantz
17-Jun-2024, 04:00
time/open flash close .. I do that with no sync cable ( fewer things to trip on.. for me at least )
fill flash with ambient light works great, cuts down on development times :)

Tin Can
17-Jun-2024, 04:38
I shoot any Flash Bulb or Modern Strobe

on old camera, shutter

I use 1/30 or slower

don't really need a working shutter

but I have many flash bulbs and strobes

thanks to your post I will show them soon

maltfalc
21-Jun-2024, 02:25
Also J, what worked for me as far as shutter speed and modern flash is this... I used the focal plane shutter (barrel lenses) set to T. Figure out my flash strength using my digital. Handhold my flash trigger. Click the graphic shutter, immediately hit the trigger, both flashes do their thing. Hit the graphic shutter again to close. Done. All within 1 second. Click/trigger/click.
Obviously this won't work with too much ambient light but it worked for me! (I'm using Tech Pan iso 20. Might be much harder with 400iso film)
Cheers[emoji106]

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the T setting has x-sync, you don't need to fire the flash manually. just double click.

Tin Can
21-Jun-2024, 03:23
A tip for beginners

Needing Sync cables

Ask for any cables when buying a camera

Many sellers have them

But throw them away

Last time I got plenty

Some NOS