Permethrin on camera case?

[Ulophot]

I have an opportunity to go photographing on an estate where I know deer and other critters roam. It's not tick season, but the weather is mid-70s. Is it OK to spray permethrin on my camera bag as well as lower clothes? I'll be laying my bag down in fields, etc. My 4x5 bag is nylon; MF bag is canvas.

[bmikiten]

You can but I'd expect residual to build up over time. You can also spray the area. I've photographed in some pretty nasty areas and never had anything in my case. Common practice is to tuck your pants in your socks and spray up to your knees then any exposed areas. If you can wash your case then it would be ok to spray it as well.

[BrianShaw]

Interesting that you should ask… recently did some research on that topic because our lawn developed an infestation of biting midges.

It is generally acknowledged as rather safe stuff when used in moderation, even if one is pregnant or breastfeeding. I wait until I start getting bit before using it, just to be safe. Not sure why the camera bag needs to be sprayed but it couldn’t hurt.

[Alan Klein]

What do the instructions on the permethrin can say? Call the manufacturer and ask them. If you find out, would you post the answer here because I;ve been thinking about that too.


Also, let the permethrin dry before putting the clothes on. I have clothes that were impregnated by the manufacturer - good for 70 washings. Better than the two weeks and two washings with your own spray-on can.

[BrianShaw]

There are many authoratative statements on this product available via internet, including CDC, etc.

What’s less clear are the probable synonyms and trade names for that product.

[Drew Wiley]

The permethrin might hold onto permeable canvas fabric, probably not nylon. I just wouldn't do it myself to any camera accessory. No telling what else is in the spray can, propellent-wise, that might cause an issue. Personal protection from ticks is another issue. I do check everything when returning from tick-infested trails, or even multiple times during a walk if I happen to brush up against the kind of foliage or tall grass they cling to - the outside of my backpack, my pant legs and cuffs especially. Permetrin spray cans are a bit pricey, and allegedly so-so effective. You might look at the pre-treated versions of clothing. But at least it's an option to DEET, which can outright ruin anything leather or plastic.

[jp]

Ticks are serious.. I've seen them year round in Maine.
I also use garlic spray for my yard.
On my clothes / skin I use lemon-eucalyptus oil spray; some insect repellent companies sell it as a deet alternative. It has not been a problem for my clothing or skin.
I'm sure a deet based product would work well too.

[Drew Wiley]

NEVER let DEET touch anything touch camera related, not even accidentally via your fingers, or even poly coated tent or rainwear fabric. There are all kinds of horror stories about DEET in that respect, some which I could tell you from personal experience. It is more effective than Permethrin until it fully evaporates in an hour or two, but it can outright ruin certain kinds of gear if you're not careful. But not every alternative repellant is ideal. I well remember how Off brand spray repellent did do a good job at keeping mosquitoes away, but at the same time, actually attracted biting flies, including big nasty horse flies! I never found Citronella oil to be particularly effective, but some people prefer that.

[Alan Klein]

I have 97% nylon pants from ExOfficio that has the permeant permethrin impregnated by Insect Shield, good for 70 washings. I don't know how they do it nor whether can permethrin spray will work on your nylon. Note that Insect Shield will also impregnate your clothes. You send them a batch and they impregnate them and return them to you. Either on a per piece or full batch arrangement. Call them and ask about your bag. Let us know what they say.
https://www.insectshield.com/collections/shop-insect-shield?msclkid=3e03daed62c01d569809bfd5528cd479&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Search%20%7C%20Brand%20%7C%20Exact&utm_term=Insect%20Shield&utm_content=Brand%20-%20Exact

[Ulophot]

Thanks, all. I don't traipse around in the great outdoors that much, but my daughter's decade-plus experience with extreme Lyme and Co. is enough to keep me very cautious.

Alan, I'd seen the insectshild site before; I've bookmarked it now.

[Daniel Casper Lohenstein]

I was out and about in the summer, hiking. I had the Technika with me. In a normal hiking backpack. When I put the backpack down, a tick crawled up the shoulder strap. The tick then bit me on the side, under the armpit. Four weeks later I had the reddening of the skin. The reddening lasted 5 weeks. I had to take antibiotics for 2 weeks. Fortunately I am vaccinated against TBE. But due to an insect bite I suffered erysipelas. This again had to be treated with antibiotics. - Ticks are a PITA, but if you catch a tick bite in time, you won't die from it. Think of all the forest workers and farmers.

I used to often use a waterproof backpack with the zipper on the back instead on the front or top. When you take that off, everything stays clean and dry and the shoulder straps and padding, which smells like sweat, which the ticks love, points up. Today I use this backpack again, packing the photo equipment in a Tenba Byob 13 and putting the insert in the backpack.

https://www.ortlieb.com/de_en/atrack

https://de.tenba.com/tenba-byob-13-camera-insert-black/

You can take the Tenba insert out, it has a shoulder strap. It fits 6 4x5 cassettes, two to three lenses, the Sekonic Spotmeter L 758, a Horseman magnifier and a Technika. What more could you want? The tripod can be attached to the outside.

If the backpack is dirty (mud, cow dung, ticks, seawater), you just hold it under the shower. If the backpack is closed, it makes no difference whether the camera is inside or not.

I'm also looking forward to take photos in the fog this fall and go snowshoeing in the winter.

[Mal Paso]

One study found that ticks have a hard time gripping human hair compared to animal fur which ticks use to get close to the skin. On humans ticks use clothing to get close enough to bite so a study was done comparing nudist camps with similar fully clothed camps. The result, the best clothing to avoid tick bites is no clothing at all.

[Alan Klein]

One study found that ticks have a hard time gripping human hair compared to animal fur which ticks use to get close to the skin. On humans ticks use clothing to get close enough to bite so a study was done comparing nudist camps with similar fully clothed camps. The result, the best clothing to avoid tick bites is no clothing at all.
Deet would be good at Nudist colonies.

[Drew Wiley]

Ha! The best insect repellant is actually having someone along who is especially a biting bug attractant.

[jnantz]

I have an opportunity to go photographing on an estate where I know deer and other critters roam. It's not tick season, but the weather is mid-70s. Is it OK to spray permethrin on my camera bag as well as lower clothes? I'll be laying my bag down in fields, etc. My 4x5 bag is nylon; MF bag is canvas.

Some pyrethrin type repellants don't last once the sun hits them ( if it is the chrysanthemum based stuff sometimes it decomposes in sunlight ).
If you have someplace like REI or similar outdoor entertainment store close by they might be able to point you in the right direction.

[Chuck Pere]

If you need to put your bag on the ground maybe spray permethrin on a white t-shirt and put that on the ground with your bag on top. If you want to keep permethrin fully away from the bag maybe set it on a white trash bag. Much easier to see anything crawling on the white trash bag.

[Drew Wiley]

One thing about permethrin clothing is that it makes you smell like treated dog bedding. Better than getting bitten, but still an annoyance. Speaking of which, quite a few people pick up ticks from within their own homes, due to allowing their dog to run around in the grass while out on walks, and not thoroughly checking it afterwards.

[popdoc]

I always carry a rolled up heavy garbage where a water bottle is likely to go on the side of my pack. I reach back, pull it out, and spread on the ground to create a “sterile area” before putting my pack down.

No ticks, mud, sand, etc….

Pack up, put on the pack, pick up the garbage bag, “shake it like a Polaroid picture”, and stuff it back where it came from.

No need to spray.

Works every time….


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