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diversey
15-Sep-2023, 11:02
Did anyone fly out Rome airport (FCO) in Italy recently and know if the hand-check film is available? Thanks!

jmontague
16-Sep-2023, 05:10
When I was in Rome in 2022, I had no issue with having my 120 film hand checked. Same was true in Milan this past May. I imagine you will have no issues.


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nitroplait
16-Sep-2023, 09:02
This changes quickly at all airports at the moment. Some of those that refused hand checks before, now allows it because they have switched to CT or are in the process of doing so.

I would first check the policy for film/hand check on the airport homepage, and if no information, I would shoot them an easy to answer mail. I would probably inquire about the scanning technology as well if not mentioned on the homepage.

If no answer, I'd prepare for the worst.

diversey
17-Sep-2023, 12:10
Thanks for your information and suggestions, which are very helpful!

Michael Kadillak
26-Sep-2023, 19:32
I would not take a chance with hand checking sheet film personally. Just too much risk involved unless you have 35mm or roll film which they will hand check all day long. Quite simply the intensity of the security equipment X-ray continues to go up to where it will nuke your film to useless status in a country second. IMHO the only viable option is to Fed Ex the film in a lead shield bag and have one of the major film sellers send you some film to where you are staying (hopefully an Air BNB and not a hotel). Spreading out your risk a bit. Just my $0.02.

jnantz
27-Sep-2023, 05:21
Did anyone fly out Rome airport (FCO) in Italy recently and know if the hand-check film is available? Thanks!

The last time I went through European airports (not Rome or recent) but Heathrow, Frankfurt and Bale ) they refused to hand inspect any film and claimed the scanner didn't bother film unless it was high ISO (over ISO 800?).
I exposed probably 40 rolls developed all of it after I returned and they were right ( the film was fine ), it was all 200 and 400 ISO, years before (in era of the Subway Bomber) I went through Heathrow and my film/carry-on was scanned probably every 50 feet so it was a lot of scans and no issues .. that all said, according to legendary Photographic Chemist Ron Mowrey there is more radiation at altitudes that planes fly (domestic and international) than any of those scanners zap, so it might not really matter.

diversey
7-Oct-2023, 00:29
Thank you all for your suggestions!
Just passed through the terminal 1 at Rome airport/FCO. It does not do hand-checking film, but it has a film-safe machine to check film. See picture below. I have a box of FP 125 film, hope the film will be okay.
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Michael Kadillak
7-Oct-2023, 07:24
Thank you all for your suggestions!
Just passed through the terminal 1 at Rome airport/FCO. It does not do hand-checking film, but it has a film-safe machine to check film. See picture below. I have a box of FP 125 film, hope the film will be okay.
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I find it very interesting to see how much extrinsic risk is normalized in the world today. In this specific situation the reality is every airport ascribes to a unique protocol for security that can shift at the drop of a hat. People conveying that a scanning machine does not adversely affect sheet film (35mm and 120 are easily swabbed for chemicals and are not a part of the concern here) are reading from the sales literature of the company that sold the device because they have no clue. Yet other than a forum such as this one where experiences (both good and bad) are shared the net results do not register because the requests for special consideration for sheet film likely do not register on the complaint list so in the words of Alfred E Newman "What? Me Worry". I sincerely hope that all ends up well in this instance but for the benefit of future readers I will simply state what I know to be true. When you buy sheet film from a major US distributor that ships globally, you know that product is going to be delivered in usable unaltered condition because that is the business they are in and have worked out the logistics. Yes, you may pay a tax at your destination, but that is chump change relative to the adverse consequences of spending countless hours making images and having nothing at the end to show for it. Again, this is not in any way critical but a step back and look things over discussion. At the end of the day as photographers we are all aligned in the net outcome and that is all that matters. Long live film.

diversey
9-Oct-2023, 15:00
Just developed a few sheets of film I shot in Rome and they turned out nicely. It is so inconvenient to carry film and go through different airports nowadays.

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6sTvdIDRfmy4ba4lEV8oGPBhzVqGPPWaBoeNr0Hgyzn-Aeh65yixABhnfW2wNof3LCmfF-L-lTyoicy1pqzBsN-VbT0GD9jG6iD8kANvTvgh5q_sd7rb6zM89YVCGT2kexZ7YQhSZMpnVJIXyej9ja65k_lYoT9ZGS2QBqIpDjaylij6IkS6e7YUueW8/s3032/Schneider_80mmXLCF019Corr%208x10.jpeg

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diversey
9-Oct-2023, 15:11
It seems some airports still have film-safe X-ray machines to be used for checking film and carry-on baggage. It is nice to buy film locally when you travel or are on vacation, but it is hard to find a shop to develop exposed film, especially for film with N-x or N+x.


I find it very interesting to see how much extrinsic risk is normalized in the world today. In this specific situation the reality is every airport ascribes to a unique protocol for security that can shift at the drop of a hat. People conveying that a scanning machine does not adversely affect sheet film (35mm and 120 are easily swabbed for chemicals and are not a part of the concern here) are reading from the sales literature of the company that sold the device because they have no clue. Yet other than a forum such as this one where experiences (both good and bad) are shared the net results do not register because the requests for special consideration for sheet film likely do not register on the complaint list so in the words of Alfred E Newman "What? Me Worry". I sincerely hope that all ends up well in this instance but for the benefit of future readers I will simply state what I know to be true. When you buy sheet film from a major US distributor that ships globally, you know that product is going to be delivered in usable unaltered condition because that is the business they are in and have worked out the logistics. Yes, you may pay a tax at your destination, but that is chump change relative to the adverse consequences of spending countless hours making images and having nothing at the end to show for it. Again, this is not in any way critical but a step back and look things over discussion. At the end of the day as photographers we are all aligned in the net outcome and that is all that matters. Long live film.

Tin Can
9-Oct-2023, 16:15
Wonderful film!

I like your Vernacular delivering reality

with people adding scale

Thank you



Just developed a few sheets of film I shot in Rome and they turned out nicely. It is so inconvenient to carry film and go through different airports nowadays.

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6sTvdIDRfmy4ba4lEV8oGPBhzVqGPPWaBoeNr0Hgyzn-Aeh65yixABhnfW2wNof3LCmfF-L-lTyoicy1pqzBsN-VbT0GD9jG6iD8kANvTvgh5q_sd7rb6zM89YVCGT2kexZ7YQhSZMpnVJIXyej9ja65k_lYoT9ZGS2QBqIpDjaylij6IkS6e7YUueW8/s3032/Schneider_80mmXLCF019Corr%208x10.jpeg

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh-tOTVbt4w60sCMYF-iCpasGTGgZpwkVxlTCoYs2fwAGDsoisKATQhECGhwhkY-diEh-4-Y2EW4DNv34fq8cPFk1wfTyjJXJ-uUhfEMuzpNOGgMEjBslRfyOk-HfoHmOy_Xzozhjy8Tq0i2mXc7SzZFvRAZr0HIKtlr54UlfyuGwhC4sTVQ7sUCmADwu4/s3000/Schneider_80mmXLCF0178x10.jpeg

diversey
10-Oct-2023, 04:16
Thanks, Randy!

reddesert
11-Oct-2023, 17:28
Nice photos! Were you there at a time or day that the Colosseum was closed? It looks quite early or late in the day from the shadows. I was there in spring of this year and the whole plaza was crawling with people.

I only had some 35mm film, and departing from the Rome airport I saw that the X-ray machine where I was were an older type not CT scanners, so I didn't bother asking about hand inspection as time was short.

Michael Kadillak
11-Oct-2023, 17:54
It seems some airports still have film-safe X-ray machines to be used for checking film and carry-on baggage. It is nice to buy film locally when you travel or are on vacation, but it is hard to find a shop to develop exposed film, especially for film with N-x or N+x.

Glad that it worked out so well for you. Agree it is not worth trying to buy LF film locally. Last time I traveled abroad I spread the risk in two directions. I had B&H send me a box of 25 sheets of 8x10 FP4+ and then I Fed Exed a 50 sheet box of TMY in 8x10 in a lead shield (extra precaution even though I have been told countless times Fed Ex does not X Ray) along with a Please Do Not Xray and a photocopy of my passport inside to my AirBNB owner that agreed to receive both packages for me and put it in the freezer for when I got there. I received confirmation that both arrived before we started our trip and it all worked out well. In a perfect world I would process the film I shot before the return trip so it would be a risk off event with any X Ray than wanted to use and I could be assured of success with the images I made.

diversey
12-Oct-2023, 01:34
Reddesert: Thanks! I was there in early morning, around sunrise time. There are A LOT OF tourists during daytime. It is wise for airports to keep an old, film-safe x-ray machine for checking film.

diversey
12-Oct-2023, 01:58
Ideally bring Bach developed film, but it is hard to find a local shop to develop sheet film nowadays.



Glad that it worked out so well for you. Agree it is not worth trying to buy LF film locally. Last time I traveled abroad I spread the risk in two directions. I had B&H send me a box of 25 sheets of 8x10 FP4+ and then I Fed Exed a 50 sheet box of TMY in 8x10 in a lead shield (extra precaution even though I have been told countless times Fed Ex does not X Ray) along with a Please Do Not Xray and a photocopy of my passport inside to my AirBNB owner that agreed to receive both packages for me and put it in the freezer for when I got there. I received confirmation that both arrived before we started our trip and it all worked out well. In a perfect world I would process the film I shot before the return trip so it would be a risk off event with any X Ray than wanted to use and I could be assured of success with the images I made.