Filter Options For Schneider 210XL Super Symmar Lens?

[LFLarry]

Hi, I am researching options to use b/w filters (yellow, orange, red) on the Schneider 210XL F5.6 Super Symmar lens.

I have been searching for 135mm filters and am not coming up with anything.

Any tips or ideas for using regular b/w filters for this massive front element?

Thank you,

Larry

[mhayashi]

I bought Lee SW150 filter system ND filters for my petzvals.
https://usa.leefiltersdirect.com/collections/150mm

Unfortunately Lee SW150 MKI holder I bought has the opening diameter 110mm.
So what I did was to put the Lee filter holder parts on the packard shutter.
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You can ask S.K.Grimes to make a custom made filter holder of SW150 filters for you.
https://skgrimes.com/products/adapters/

If you plan to use the center filter VI, the front thread is even bigger M152x1, which requires the step-down ring with vignette around the edge to accept the custom holder for SW150.

Another solution would be to use the rear lens barrel thread, but that forces you to do the focus shift to adjust having the filter on the rear, which may interfere on the bellows with movements.

[LFLarry]

Hi, thank you for that excellent idea. I will investigate this.

[Eric Leppanen]

There are 138mm round b/w filters available which could be attached via a step-up ring, which someone like SK Grimes could fabricate for you. IIRC these filters are oriented toward the pro cinema market and are expensive, but used copies could be attractive.

The cheapest option might be to tape the corners of a Cokin X-pro 130mm square filter to the front lens barrel with painters or gaffers tape. Easy enough to cut a 130mm square piece of cardboard to test if this would be workable. To my knowledge X-pro has been discontinued (a bunch were sold off at heavy discount years ago) but used filters should show up on the used market from time to time. The system supported a number of b/w filters.

[Lachlan 717]

Blutac 150mmx150mm filters to the lens. Simple.

[Joshua Dunn]

What camera system are you using? I shoot Sinar and have the Schneider 210mm Super Angulon (I think the front element is almost the same size as the Super Symmar XL). I made a filter holder that holds a massive 6.6" square filter in front of the lens. That way it works with all of my lenses.

-Joshua

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[Corran]

The one time I used a filter I put it on the backside of the lens. I think that side is 82mm. Focus after the filter is in place. ymmv

[mhayashi]

Larry, Linhof Studio recently custom ordered the filter holder to Lee.
This looks great!! I probably buy this kit with push on filters for SSXL150mm with IVa center filter.
For SSXL210mm, no need for push on ring!!
So this means the filter holder has 140mm hole diameter.

https://www.linhofstudio.com/products/The-LSL-XXL-Filter-Holder/

From the page, the excerpts are here.

The LSL XXL Filter System

Click for Further Information
Whilst he Lee Filters SW150 holder provides a perfect solution for lenses with filter threads 105mm and smaller.
However , the LSL XXL filter holder is designed specifically for lenses where the filter thread / outside diameters are larger than 105mm.
The system works by different diameter donut rings that clamp to the outer diameter of the lens.
These rings are available in the following sizes:
90mm ( for most lenses with a filter thread of 86mm)
95mm
100mm ( for most lenses with a filter thread of 95mm
105mm (for 100mm filter thread - e.g.300mm Apo Sironar S)
110mm ( for most lenses with a filter thread of 105mm)
112mm,115mm,117mm,120mm &125mm
The 120mm donut also accepts the LEE SW150 threaded adapter rings for smaller sizes.

Lens compatibility examples. Please note that not all lenses are listed and care should be taken when measuring the outer diameter of your lens.

Rodenstock
HR 32mm Digaron.................... Filter thread 86mm Push on Donut 90mm
Grandagon 155mm................... Filter thread 105mm Push on Donut 110mm
300mm f5.6 Sironar N.............. Filter thread 86mm.Push on Donut 90mm
300mm Apo Sironar S f5.6........... Filter Thread 100mm Push on Donut 105mm
360mm f6.8 Sironar N............... Filter thread 105mm Push on Donut 110mm
360mm Apo Sironar S............... filter thread 112mm Push on Donut 117mm
480mm Sironar N f9 & f 8.4.......Push on Donut 115mm

Schneider
Super Angulon XL 72 & 90mm............ Filter thread 95mm Push on Donut 100mm
Super Angulon 90mm f6.8.................. Filter thread 82mm Push on Donut 90mm
Super Symmar XL 150mm................. Filter thread 95mm Push on Donut 100mm
Super Angulon 165mm f8.................. Filter thread 105mm Push on Donut 110mm
Super Angulon 165mm f8.................. Filter thread 110 Push on Donut 115mm
Symmar S 300mm & 480mm............ Filter thread 105mm Push on Donut 110mm
Symmar S 360mm...........................Push on Donut 125mm
Apo Tele Xenar 600 & 800................ Filter thread 105mm Push on Donut 112mm

Fine Art Lenses
Schneider 550mm XXL/f11................. Filter thread 122mm Push on Donut 125mm
Schneider 1100mm XXL/f22 & f14...... Filter thread 105mm Push on Donut 110mm
Specials
210mm Super Symmar XL & 210mm f8 Super Angulon MC version & 200mm f6.8 Grandagon
No adapter ring or donut required. Filter holder tightens directly to outer diameter of front barrel

Schneider 28mm PC TS f4.5 HM Super Angulon 122mm thread mount. Push on Donut 125mm
Centre Filters
Centre filter for 32mm HR Digaron..........................................105mm filter thread Push on Donut 110mm
Centre filter for 23 & 28mm HR Digaron..................................100mm Push on Donut
Schneider Centre Filter IVa / IVb ( 90mm XL & 150mm S/Symmar).....115mm Push on Donut
Schneider Centre Filter IIIc/ IIIb/III....................................90mm Push on Donut
Schneider Centre Filter IV...................................

[L&Scape]

I use 72mm polarizing filter with the 210mm SSXL. You just screw it on the back element filter screw. Please remember to focus WITH filter, because filter behind the lens changes focus.