Linhof Kardan Color 8x10 has crossed my path [Archive]

Tin Can

3-Feb-2023, 15:35

joho

3-Feb-2023, 15:49

in the photo here yours has three ?? standards ??? modified lens board too.

joho

3-Feb-2023, 16:02

At first glance knobs are ok, as for the bellows clean of cracks BUT pin holes ??? have to check !!
how tight should the knobs turn to stop movement ????
OHH!! how does the rear standard removes ??? to go horizontal...

Tin Can

3-Feb-2023, 17:10

Bellows can be fixed or replaced

The knobs are fragile, if they are the same shape as mine

The back rotates by pushing the corners

It also removes by pushing the corners chrome outward

Watch out, it can surprise

Post a pic here

Michael Kadillak

3-Feb-2023, 17:26

There should be a push knob on the back of the rear standard that facilitate changing the orientation. I have a Linhof triplex Color Garden with four rails and the heavy duty tripod. The knobs should not be excessively tightened. Only as tight as they need to be to prevent the standard from moving. You can feel where it is enough. The Linhof design is incredible. How it encases the film holder upon insertion with that amazing bail bar so you just set it in there is amazing. They do not make cameras like this any longer. I had my Color Karen out yesterday. It is heavy as the dickers (as you already know), but it is a pleasure to work with. Enjoy.

Vaidotas

4-Feb-2023, 02:51

This camera is built to perfection.
Look for bent / broken knobs which might happen on transportattion.
Weakest point is bellows, they are made for extreme movements but synthetic material prone to deterioration and not easy to fix. Bag bellows were made from leather and must be fine.
It’s easy to find reducing backs at least in Europe.
Go for it if weight dont bother you and if it comes with Linhof tripod.
Dedidated coffer is nice to have too.

joho

4-Feb-2023, 03:56

thanks for the info !!!! to all !
I am still paying for it in installments so I do not have it with me .
And still have to find 8x10 film holders && a lens for it. I have one 30cm. but looking for a wide-angle.
I have the Linhof 4x5 Kardan GT since 1990.

joho

4-Feb-2023, 04:08

Tin Can

4-Feb-2023, 06:16

brucetaylor

4-Feb-2023, 15:21

Wonderful and massive! The Linhof Stativ tripod of the same era is highly recommended as it mates perfectly with the rail clamp. Light pressure on the knobs secures everything. They don’t make things like this anymore.

joho

6-Feb-2023, 02:14

A question for the film holders of the 8x10 Kardan color ...??
what are the outer dimension sizes of the film holders -[8x10], I will need to D.I.Y. construction of one !

1000's of Thank you for any response.

Tin Can

6-Feb-2023, 05:40

Normal available world wide 8X10 Film holders have been the same for 100 years plus

Many documents online have bad Data

Buy them

A question for the film holders of the 8x10 Kardan color ...??
what are the outer dimension sizes of the film holders -[8x10], I will need to D.I.Y. construction of one !

1000's of Thank you for any response.

Michael Kadillak

6-Feb-2023, 08:05

Normal available world wide 8X10 Film holders have been the same for 100 years plus

Many documents online have bad Data

Buy them

Absolutely agree. The moulded part of the flap end of plastic holders that light seals the bottom of the holder works far better than the wooden holder limitations in this specific area. It obviously can be worked around, but why DIY when there is abundant inventory to acquire at good prices?

joho

6-Feb-2023, 15:05

Looking around, here Athens very rare, seen some Japan after import and shipment coasts their up double the original price.
What I have read, on ebay-- prices start at 150,euros plus shipment + 50euros -- import taxes !!! THEN 65 euros per one, sooo... total 265 euros per one.
And it goes something like that. for now at least . I am still on it looking all around.

joho

6-Feb-2023, 15:20

Looking around,for 8x10 film holders.
Here in Athens very rare, to zilch, seen some ebay Japan, BUT after import and shipment coasts their up double the original price.
What I have read, on ebay-- prices start at 60 euros for what looks like holders that photographed WWI && WWII.
And then there is where the film holders start at 150,euros and up &up&up 300euros for ONE!? plus shipment + 50euros -- import taxes !!! THEN 65 euros per one, sooo... total 265 euros per one.
And it goes something like that, I am still on it looking all around.

See why, D.I.Y.

Daniel Unkefer

6-Feb-2023, 15:30

BTW 18x24cm holders will fit 8x10 cameras, holders are same outer dimensions, 18x24cm film is slightly smaller than 8x10. Metric sized film you can get in European shops and around. Kodak 18x24cm Mammography film is very cheap compared to pan film

joho

6-Feb-2023, 15:41

ok. sounds as a good starting point ! Kodak 18x24cm Mammography film I will look t it now !

just seen this on ebay
Zebra 8X10 Wet Plate Holder / Tintype, Ambrotype, Dry Plates / Large Format Photography / Film Photography / Black & White

any idea ?????

Tin Can

6-Feb-2023, 16:04

I know him

Good guy

ok. sounds as a good starting point ! Kodak 18x24cm Mammography film I will look t it now !

just seen this on ebay
Zebra 8X10 Wet Plate Holder / Tintype, Ambrotype, Dry Plates / Large Format Photography / Film Photography / Black & White

any idea ?????

joho

7-Feb-2023, 13:26

just reread the web site Zebra 8X10 Wet Plate Holder, they are new !!! and it is in Europe ??!!
I think problem solved ??

Vaidotas

7-Feb-2023, 13:31

Zebra is from Slovenia, so in your neighbourhood.

Tin Can

7-Feb-2023, 13:34

Find his YouTubes

They are excellent

https://zebradryplates.com/

just reread the web site Zebra 8X10 Wet Plate Holder, they are new !!! and it is in Europe ??!!
I think problem solved ??

joho

16-Feb-2023, 12:05

Broken knobs, they are fragile

NO PARTS!

I have a couple

but there are a few variations the naming is poor

Here is my best

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50791920838_d6df00c6fc_z.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/gp/tincancollege/J29716P8o6)Linhof triple Kodak 405 Portrait (https://www.flickr.com/gp/tincancollege/J29716P8o6) by TIN CAN COLLEGE (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tincancollege/), on Flickr

Question for Tin-Can,
still do not have the camera in my hands BUT, had a look at it learned how to rotate the back [45dgree]
and flipped the four corners at the flaps and removed the whole back….
???? how do I see only the ground-glass to focus?!!

Tin Can

16-Feb-2023, 12:45

Not sure what you are saying

Some may have a cover flap to protect GG

Post pictures asap

In a moment I am posting a pic of the 3 LINHOF lens boards

Question for Tin-Can,
still do not have the camera in my hands BUT, had a look at it learned how to rotate the back [45dgree]
and flipped the four corners at the flaps and removed the whole back….
???? how do I see only the ground-glass to focus?!!

Vaidotas

16-Feb-2023, 13:14

joho, you just learned how to remove whole back with ground glass inside.
If you don’t see it, it probably covered with metal ground glass cover.

joho

18-Feb-2023, 08:12

joho, you just learned how to remove whole back with ground glass inside.
If you don’t see it, it probably covered with metal ground glass cover.

That is correct, So how do remove the cover of the ground-glass???

Tin Can

18-Feb-2023, 11:06

Why do you NOT post pics?

It would help us help you

Should be a press to release

I could post pic, if you do

joho

18-Feb-2023, 15:32

Why do you NOT post pics?

It would help us help you

Should be a press to release

I could post pic, if you do

I still do not have the camera, I will pick up in 1 week. then I can post a photo...

Tin Can

19-Feb-2023, 06:38

My 8X10 did not have 8X10 GG cover

However I have 5X7 and 4X5 OE Linhof backs that have flip out viewing hoods

and a I have a true 5X7 back

All the above interchange in various manner

Additionally the backs and front have 2 holes to mount a shade or darkcloth

Very easy to bend a wire into the rare accessory

Can be used with dark cloth or any variation

The Calumet C1 came with similar

I made and sold a few here on the forum

Michael Kadillak

24-Feb-2023, 10:41

Wanted to pass along a company that provided me with some support in a stiff Karden Color 8x10 rotating back. I reached out to www.laflexcamera.com and Austin responded with some technical assistance on how to properly remove my camera back and clean it and the synthetic lubricant to use (Super Lube). Back in the saddle as the advice was perfect and I found out my camera was manufactured in 1961.

joho

16-Mar-2023, 14:28

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So I have the 8x10 here are three views I hope the photos uploaded ??

joho

16-Mar-2023, 14:32

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So I have the 8x10 here are three views I hope the photos uploaded ??

joho

16-Mar-2023, 14:35

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So here are three photos of the linhoff236852

Tin Can

17-Mar-2023, 06:21

Good to see it

I use my 2 good ones often enough

joho

17-Mar-2023, 07:37

Good to see it

I use my 2 good ones often enough

I will start with paper negs. Still need the 0x10 film holders ..soon.

OOH, there is one question the knobs show signs of lines ???? the bellows in very good condition!

and last how to post a photo correctly ??? on this site ????

Tin Can

17-Mar-2023, 09:51

I find if I run all pics through any pic editor they are then straight

No idea why, I just do it

Don't mess around with those fragil knobs, don't drop them

I take mine apart in chunks and lay them on a bed

gently

I have several OE bellows

They are exquisite and LN

I will start with paper negs. Still need the 0x10 film holders ..soon.

OOH, there is one question the knobs show signs of lines ???? the bellows in very good condition!

and last how to post a photo correctly ??? on this site ????

joho

19-Mar-2023, 02:02

I have been setting up the kardancolor, well there are a few questions one is here in the photo...
at the base of the camera there is a lever with no knob ?? any info ?236892

Tin Can

19-Mar-2023, 05:03

Not a knob, but a hinge for tilt

The side you do not show should have a threaded lock knob

Be careful when unlocking it as the camera should be balanced on the 50mm rail

I have been setting up the kardancolor, well there are a few questions one is here in the photo...
at the base of the camera there is a lever with no knob ?? any info ?236892

joho

19-Mar-2023, 05:51

ok that is true, THEN this is to disengage the the camera mount from the lower mount ?? [where the arrow is pointing ]..

thank you !!

Tin Can

19-Mar-2023, 06:13

Please send more pictures, we can now post 6 or 8 I think

I will also post pics to you on this thread

I have many parts for my 3

some are broken

some are usable

one I made

joho

20-Mar-2023, 07:26

will send photos later .. can I make knobs for the linhoff ??

joho

21-Mar-2023, 11:33

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Well here is the knobs see the lines-- after you said they are brittle and break so what is here ???

thanks

Tin Can

21-Mar-2023, 11:53

I have not yet learned the method to REMOVE these cursed knobs

When I gathered my pile, nobody wanted these cameras, German Museums have junk last I looked 10 years ago

Plastic dries out and fails

My even older tube radios do the same thing

We need a very old LINHOF repairman

I don't, as I have 3 complete cameras working fine

It seems you have enough now

Do you have a correct tripod and head?

I made a 90mm alu disc to fit LINHOF and use a very heavy duty Majestic head

More pics!

I have posted everything on this forum, but the forum takes a lot of human search

Is your goal collecting or usage?

joho

22-Mar-2023, 12:10

Goal is usage.!
A broken tripod [058] multiblitz and no head. I am in the process of studying to make a wooden one [???] or tiring to find one linhoff like the one you have in the photo.

joho

LansoirThemtq

23-Mar-2023, 22:52

When you are inspecting the camera, there are a few things to keep in mind. Firstly, check the bellows for any light leaks. Shine a flashlight inside the camera with the bellows closed and look for any visible light coming through. Secondly, check the movements on the camera, including the front and rear standards, the lens board, and the rail system. Make sure that all movements are smooth and without any hitches. Thirdly, check the condition of the lens board and make sure it fits well onto the front standard. Fourthly, check the condition of the lens and the shutter. Lastly, check the condition of the ground glass and make sure it is clear and free of scratches.

If possible, ask the seller for a test shoot to see how the camera performs. Overall, the Linhoff Kardan color 8x10 is a great camera, but like any used camera, it's important to inspect it carefully to ensure that it's in good working condition.

Ron (Netherlands)

24-Mar-2023, 02:32

Lensboards are very rare

That's why I made adapters

Wide angle requires a recessed lens board

My good bellows are leather

The camera I posted has a Packard shutter with sync in side behind the lensboard

Very excited to see pics of yours

Here is the 5X7 variation and I do have 4X5 capacity

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50792665101_c0468ba3e9_z.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/gp/tincancollege/sPB809Y990)Linhof Kardon 5X7 with Linhof tipod and dolly (https://www.flickr.com/gp/tincancollege/sPB809Y990) by TIN CAN COLLEGE (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tincancollege/), on Flickr

what a great -stunning- 'tripod' (and case!)

btw one is for sale at our local dutch internet market and has black knobs....perhaps a later make?https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/audio-tv-en-foto/fotocamera-s-analoog/m1925879358-technische-camera-8x10-inch-linhof-kardan-color

joho

4-Apr-2023, 10:03

what a great -stunning- 'tripod' (and case!)

btw one is for sale at our local dutch internet market and has black knobs....perhaps a later make?https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/audio-tv-en-foto/fotocamera-s-analoog/m1925879358-technische-camera-8x10-inch-linhof-kardan-color

hello Ron, went to the web page, there was no price for the tripod or for the camera ??

Tin Can

4-Apr-2023, 10:49

Yes, I have a couple standards with black knobs, no idea if early or late

The first prototype was very fancy with gimbal rail clamp standards

I spotted one used in a Fred Astaire Movie 'Funny Face' with Audrey Hepburn

It was mounted on a huge Saltzman Tripod

I just bought a new DVD of it for $6 delivered

Fun movie and fashion

what a great -stunning- 'tripod' (and case!)

btw one is for sale at our local dutch internet market and has black knobs....perhaps a later make?https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/audio-tv-en-foto/fotocamera-s-analoog/m1925879358-technische-camera-8x10-inch-linhof-kardan-color