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PatrickMarq
23-May-2022, 02:45
Over the years I have invested in the Lee filter system so I can use this from 35mm up to 4x5.
Now I’m looking for a warming filter 81C, but it seems that Lee does not makes this filter anymore.
As I have started to use Kodak Ektachrome E100 from time to time this filter would temper the blue.
Does anyone knows a filter from a different brand that will fit in the Lee 100mm holder, and is about the same warming ?
Bob Salomon
23-May-2022, 03:18
A kr1.5
Patrick,
Have a look at: https://www.ffordes.com/p/SH-18-020386/lee-system/100x100-warm-81b
Mike
PatrickMarq
23-May-2022, 09:16
Bob & Mike,
Thanks,
ffordes seams fine, but the taxes will triple the price :-(
Oslolens
23-May-2022, 13:22
Bob & Mike,
Thanks,
ffordes seams fine, but the taxes will triple the price :-(There's no VAT on export from UK in my experience.
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Drop them an email and ask about shipping to Belgium?
They ship worldwide, so will know what you should expect.
Mike
PatrickMarq
24-May-2022, 00:39
At this moment I’m waiting for a 6x17 back shipped from the UK by Parcel Force. It’s stuck at customs for 14 day’s.
The idea of a email seems good, if they can put it in an envelope well protected probably it will slip under the radar.
PatrickMarq
24-May-2022, 00:43
There's no VAT on export from UK in my experience.
I’m afraid it is: 50€ For customs + 21% VAT unless you can prove that price is less then 25€.
For years we receive a calendar from friends, and this year we had to pay for it 25€. After looking around and getting proof that the price was less then 25€ and a gift the delivery was free.
Oslolens
24-May-2022, 01:48
I’m afraid it is: 50€ For customs + 21% VAT unless you can prove that price is less then 25€.
For years we receive a calendar from friends, and this year we had to pay for it 25€. After looking around and getting proof that the price was less then 25€ and a gift the delivery was free.That's my point, only import VAT ;)
There could be a German, Danish or French shop with filters? Be patient and something may turn up on ebay.
Jean Cokin is French, but I do not find a 81C among their filters.
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Drew Wiley
24-May-2022, 07:18
81C is pretty drastic, more equivalent to a KR3 (though more yellowish). Once in awhile I'll use an 81C to offset morning shade under deep blue skies at high altitude, but rarely for anything else.
One could obviously use an actual 4X4 inch Wratten 81C gel is one of the plastic ones cannot be found.
tgtaylor
24-May-2022, 08:40
I have the entire 4x4 Lee 81 set that Tim at Filter Find (or something like that) sold me years back at a Hayward camera show: 227517
I never used them and they appear to be unused and are separated by cardboard. I haven't thought about selling them but since they just sit on the shelf I'd take $150 US for the set + any shipping involved.
Thomas
PatrickMarq
24-May-2022, 09:14
I have the entire 4x4 Lee 81 set that Tim at Filter Find (or something like that) sold me years back at a Hayward camera show: 227517
I never used them and they appear to be unused and are separated by cardboard. I haven't thought about selling them but since they just sit on the shelf I'd take $150 US for the set + any shipping involved.
Thomas
Tomas, how quickly can this be in Florida ?
I have friends that come to Belgium the end of this month (need to ask if they can bring it with them)
It would save me some $$
Patrick
tgtaylor
24-May-2022, 10:33
PM sent.
Bernice Loui
24-May-2022, 12:02
Factors to consider.
Ektachrome is color balanced to a light source about 5000 degrees Kelvin. Color rendition on Ektachrome will alter based in the color temperature of the light used to expose the image on Ektachrome. Outdoor daylight color temperature varies LOTs depending on the time of day, cloud conditions, altitude and more.
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This way of nature WILL alter the image color image rendition on Ektachrome and any other color film. Higher the color temperature, the blu_er color rendition of the color image will be on Ektachrome or any other color film.
Kodak (Wratten) series 1B filter and the slightly higher density B+W KR1.5 filters are magenta "warming" filters that do not have the same effect as Kodak series 81 warming filters which has a orange tint.
To balance blue, apply some density of yellow (Kodak CCxx yellow units).
To balance green, apply some density of magenta ( Kodak Ccxx magenta units), this come up due to the 1B and KR1.5 "warming" filters.
Know the 81 series filters are intended to impart a lower color temperature light look to the image ala soft tungsten lighting (about 2000-3000 degrees Kelvin). These "warming" filters do not produce the same look-color rendition as 1B or KR1.5 "warming" filters.
This is much about what is needed for the color image goal, absolute color rendition accuracy or color rendition for a degree of emotional effect?
Knowing what these goals are, then controlling or knowing the light source color temperature then adding the Color Correction filtering as needed will get the color rendition on Ektachrome or any other color film to meet these color image needs and goals.
Know how the color film is processed and color film batch has an effect of the color balance of the image. If the color lab is any good, their color processing will be consistent and stable with each batch of film processed. Color variations of film batches are a given. This is why testing is needed to gain control over this color film system.
Color temperature of the light being used to view the color image (transmitted or reflected and room ambient light) will alter the perception of color image. This is why back in the color film centric days of high quality color images a viewing color temperature of 5000 degrees Kelvin became standardize. The eye-brain/mind has the ability to compensate for variations in color temperature -vs- perceived color. Be aware of this and know perception of color is a learned skill that takes understanding of how this color stuff works, the techno stuff related to this color film stuff and LOTs of real world-real time practice.
Bernice
Over the years I have invested in the Lee filter system so I can use this from 35mm up to 4x5.
Now I’m looking for a warming filter 81C, but it seems that Lee does not makes this filter anymore.
As I have started to use Kodak Ektachrome E100 from time to time this filter would temper the blue.
Does anyone knows a filter from a different brand that will fit in the Lee 100mm holder, and is about the same warming ?
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