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Richard Wasserman
15-Sep-2021, 07:02
https://lenscratch.com/2021/09/jon-cox-the-states-project-delaware/ DVFJLKK,.;;./
Jason Greenberg Motamedi
15-Sep-2021, 08:13
Interesting, they don't really look like Daguerreotypes. I don't see any of the tell-tale signs that even the best 19th and 21st century plates have, like polishing marks, specks of mercury amalgam in the shadows, or solarization. I also don't see the signs of a really fast LF lens being used at its widest aperture.
Not to say they aren't Daguerreotypes, they just don't look like them. Maybe they were digital negative contact-printed plates?
Richard Wasserman
15-Sep-2021, 08:24
Interesting, they don't really look like Daguerreotypes. I don't see any of the tale-tale signs that even the best 19th and 21st century plates have, like polishing marks, specks of mercury amalgam in the shadows, or solarization. I also don't see the signs of a really fast LF lens being used at its widest aperture.
Not to say they aren't Daguerreotypes, they just don't look like them. Maybe they were digital negative contact-printed plates?
I was wondering the same thing, they do look too perfect. Contact printing digital Daguerreotypes is a thing? There is so much I don't know...
Jason Greenberg Motamedi
15-Sep-2021, 08:44
Contact printing Daguerreotypes or even enlarging on a Daguerreotype plate is possible with the right (blue or UV) light source. Daguerreotype can stand much longer exposures than wet-plate because, well, they aren't wet.
Richard Wasserman
15-Sep-2021, 09:13
Thanks Jason. Can you point me at information as to how contact printed Daguerreotypes are produced? I couldn't find anything useful
Jason Greenberg Motamedi
15-Sep-2021, 09:41
There is nothing I know of on the web. Jerry Spagnoli used to teach how to do this in his workshops (using some sort of long-gone Agfa material), but no one I know does this regularly.
Richard Wasserman
15-Sep-2021, 09:54
There is nothing I know of on the web. Jerry Spagnoli used to teach how to do this in his workshops (using some sort of long-gone Agfa material), but no one I know does this regularly.
I guess that explains why I couldn't find anything. Thanks!
paulbarden
15-Sep-2021, 10:26
The photos used to illustrate the article are not Daguerrotypes - they don't demonstrate the typical spectral sensitivity of that medium. Here's a clue in the article:
"The Ese’Eja People of the Amazon: Connected by a Thread, includes photographs and daguerreotypes made by Andrew Bale and Jon Cox" (emphasis mine)
These are traditional silver medium images. I'm sure the two do make Daguerrotypes, but that's not what the article is using.
Jason Greenberg Motamedi
15-Sep-2021, 10:43
I totally agree that these don't "demonstrate the typical spectral sensitivity of that medium," but underneath some of the photographs there is a copyright and credit claiming they are...
"İAndrew Bale and Jon Cox, Jorge, Daguerreotype"
As a side note, if these were contact Daguerreotypes they wouldn't necessarily show the blue-only spectral sensitivity, since the colors would have already been translated to black and white by a panchromatic or digital medium. Again, I agree, they don't look like Daguerreotypes.
Jim Noel
15-Sep-2021, 10:46
False claims are made by someone every day.
Maris Rusis
15-Sep-2021, 16:29
Daguerreotypes are laterally reversed images. But look at the caps worn in a couple of the portraits that show lettering not laterally reversed. Not daguerreotypes.
Drew Wiley
15-Sep-2021, 16:52
Compelling portraits regardless. I too am skeptical that what is being shown is D-type. But I admit I don't keep pace with any potential modern tweaks on that process. Mercury is not my cup of tea.
Jason Greenberg Motamedi
15-Sep-2021, 18:05
Daguerreotypes are laterally reversed images. But look at the caps worn in a couple of the portraits that show lettering not laterally reversed. Not daguerreotypes.
Well spotted! In the 19th century mirror prisms were occasionally used on landscapes to correct the reversal, but probably not here. And beating my dead horse, if these were contact prints they could be reversed.
Beautiful Portraits !
Thanks for the link --
John
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