Ilford ULF annual order period for 2021

[Oren Grad]

Now open:

https://www.ilfordphoto.com/ulf-custom-specialist-film-manufacture-2021/

List of available items and participating retailers:

https://www.ilfordphoto.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/ULF-2021-Items_Participants-working-doc.doc

[Richard Wasserman]

Thanks for this Oren. I've been waiting so I can order a quantity of 4x10 FP-4.

[Marco Annaratone]

Has anybody placed an order in previous ULF runs through one of the distributors that operate in the eurozone that he/she can recommend? I checked the web site of a couple of them and was not impressed. I live in Germany and I’d rather avoid US and UK distributors - many of whom I know and like a lot - for I am afraid that custom duties plus S&H are gonna kill me.
Tnx!

[Tin Can]

Let's reverse your logic.

I have not read any complaints about Ilford Special order, ever.

People love to complain...where are they...


Personally I have become Anxious waiting for delivery, but never disappointed.

One year I got mine so fast it had to be in stock, CONUS.

Happy surprise.

Order locally!

[Kiwi7475]

Thanks for this Oren. I've been waiting so I can order a quantity of 4x10 FP-4.

Is it cheaper than just buying 8x10 and cutting it yourself in half? I’m also wondering whether order some 4x10 myself but if there’s no real advantage then I’m not sure.

[Paul Cunningham]

About the same price but you get a box that fits and no extra dust and hassle from cutting in half.


Is it cheaper than just buying 8x10 and cutting it yourself in half?


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[Marco Annaratone]

Let's reverse your logic.

I have not read any complaints about Ilford Special order, ever.

People love to complain...where are they...


Personally I have become Anxious waiting for delivery, but never disappointed.

One year I got mine so fast it had to be in stock, CONUS.

Happy surprise.

Order locally!

My last order was in 2009 (from the US), and after that I did not follow the situation. The names of the distributors in the EU are completely unfamiliar to me and I have no idea what their track record is. There is no local distributor in Germany and apparently I have to order from Belgium, from a web site www.bon-image.com that yesterday and today did/does not work. Is this distributor a familiar name re: the Ilford yearly ULF run or this year is its first time?

It does not seem so bizarre to ask for someone's previous experience with some of these distributors, considering also the amount of money involved.

[Tin Can]

Tax is often unavoidable

Render unto Caesar

I use only reliable and very well known suppliers

Your link does not work

Yesterday one of my sources was not ready to sell

Many here use

https://www.badgergraphic.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=235_292

[John Brady]

I wish they offered 5x8 inch. They have some unusual sizes offered.

[Oren Grad]

I wish they offered 5x8 inch. They have some unusual sizes offered.

From the Ilford website:

The options available reflect what has been asked for over the past 16 years. We are happy to consider any other size suggestions but do not guarantee to make them available.

That isn't idle rhetoric - the current list is quite a bit longer than where they started. Long ago I participated in the discussion that led to 6.5 x 8.5 being added. So although there are no guarantees, if you really want 5x8, ask them about it. As there is some setup and overhead cost for each format, best if you can make a convincing case that if Harman goes to the trouble, they actually will get orders for a reasonable number of boxes, whether from you alone or if you know of others who will join you.

[Marco Annaratone]

Tax is often unavoidable

Render unto Caesar

I use only reliable and very well known suppliers

Your link does not work

Yesterday one of my sources was not ready to sell

Many here use

https://www.badgergraphic.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=235_292

I know the link does not work: that's what I wrote, i.e., that it did not work. Unfortunately it is the link in the official Ilford document re: distributor for Germany.

I used Badger Graphic when I was living in California. Great place.

Anyway, any reader out there who has bought Ilford ULF film from some European distributor in the past two or three years?

[John Brady]

From the Ilford website:

The options available reflect what has been asked for over the past 16 years. We are happy to consider any other size suggestions but do not guarantee to make them available.

That isn't idle rhetoric - the current list is quite a bit longer than where they started. Long ago I participated in the discussion that led to 6.5 x 8.5 being added. So although there are no guarantees, if you really want 5x8, ask them about it. As there is some setup and overhead cost for each format, best if you can make a convincing case that if Harman goes to the trouble, they actually will get orders for a reasonable number of boxes, whether from you alone or if you know of others who will join you.

Not viewing their offerings as idle rhetoric, I think its wonderful that they do this every year and that they offer so many sizes, some seam rather rare. Someone must be ordering those sizes or I imagine they wouldn't continue to offer them. Selfishly, I wish they offered my unusual 5x8 size, I'm not thrilled with cutting down 8x10, but at least have that option.

I took your advice and reached out to both Ilford and Jeff at Badger, asking if they would consider another size. Anyone else out there interested in 5x8? I'll let you know how it goes.

www.timeandlight.com

[Tin Can]

I just ordered Whole/Full plate, 6.5 X 8.5 Delta 100 from B&H as they lowered their price to match the Special Order

Limited supply

I get this Friday

added in 2 Brass Wimberly 1/4 to 3/8 thread adapters, $3 each

[Oren Grad]

Not viewing their offerings as idle rhetoric, I think its wonderful that they do this every year and that they offer so many sizes, some seam rather rare. Someone must be ordering those sizes or I imagine they wouldn't continue to offer them. Selfishly, I wish they offered my unusual 5x8 size, I'm not thrilled with cutting down 8x10, but at least have that option.

I took your advice and reached out to both Ilford and Jeff at Badger, asking if they would consider another size. Anyone else out there interested in 5x8? I'll let you know how it goes.

Good luck - I hope they're able to accommodate!

[Tin Can]

I think they use a computer to lay out the best way to cut all sizes efficiently and at best value for them and us.

Every year there are cost anomalies.

I buy them.

No scrap is always a goal in any factory.

[Oren Grad]

I think they use a computer to lay out the best way to cut all sizes efficiently and at best value for them and us.

Every year there are cost anomalies.

I buy them.

No scrap is always a goal in any factory.

There's also the cost of bags and boxes sized to each format. There are surely minimum order quantities and volume discounts for those from Harman's suppliers, so the unit cost of these necessary auxiliaries will vary depending not just on their size but on the sales volume for each format.

[Sal Santamaura]

HARMAN uses "cutting masks," which I interpret to mean a die cutter, for each size of sheet film. Simon Galley explained that when, 16 years ago, the annual special order adventure began. He wrote that a certain minimum number of orders would be required before a new size was offered, to cover the cost of a cutting mask and boxes.

[lassethomas]

Anyway, any reader out there who has bought Ilford ULF film from some European distributor in the past two or three years?

Also interested to know. since there is no distributor listed for Sweden.

[esearing]

would like Delta 100 in 5x12 but will live with FP4+.

[Dave Wooten]

I just ordered Whole/Full plate, 6.5 X 8.5 Delta 100 from B&H as they lowered their price to match the Special Order

Limited supply

I get this Friday

added in 2 Brass Wimberly 1/4 to 3/8 thread adapters, $3 each

Thanks for the tip on the whole plate film. I ordered, Be here Monday

[Kiwi7475]

About the same price but you get a box that fits and no extra dust and hassle from cutting in half.




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Doesn’t look that way. Freestyle charges $150 for Hp5 8x10 and $98 for 4x10… that’s like 30% more expensive. I think I’ll keep cutting it myself…

[Tin Can]

All gone and that was a bargain!


Thanks for the tip on the whole plate film. I ordered, Be here Monday

[lassethomas]

For those of us who are in the EU and have problems finding a valid distributor Macodirect has now opened ordering of ULF on their site https://www.macodirect.de/en/sale/ilford-ulf-campaign/

No extra customs charges and VAT within EU

[Marco Annaratone]

For those of us who are in the EU and have problems finding a valid distributor Macodirect has now opened ordering of ULF on their site https://www.macodirect.de/en/sale/ilford-ulf-campaign/

No extra customs charges and VAT within EU

Yeah!!!!!
I use Macodirect on a regular basis. I have always been quite happy with their service.

[Roger Thoms]

So has anyone received their film yet? Or heard anything about the status of last year’s annual order.

Roger

[Kiwi7475]

So has anyone received their film yet? Or heard anything about the status of last year’s annual order.

Roger

I received mine last week, but I’m sure it depends on how Ilford ships to the distributors.

[Roger Thoms]

I received mine last week, but I’m sure it depends on how Ilford ships to the distributors.

Cool, btw were do you live?

Roger

[Paul Cunningham]

So has anyone received their film yet? Or heard anything about the status of last year’s annual order.

Roger

I received my 4x10 a couple weeks ago from Blue Moon in Portland.


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[Roger Thoms]

Thanks Paul, that’s good to hear. Hopefully mine will be arriving soon. I ordered it from the View Camera Store, maybe I’ll shoot Fred an email and see what’s happening.

Roger

[Kiwi7475]

Cool, btw were do you live?

Roger

California. I also ordered from the view camera store, and it was 4x10.

[lassethomas]

So has anyone received their film yet? Or heard anything about the status of last year’s annual order.

Roger

Got my 4x10 from Macodirect mid November

[Roger Thoms]

Good news, I received my film on Thursday. Came extremely well packaged and was shipped directly from Robert’s. I was contacted Fred at the View Camera Store to confirm that I would be home prior to shipping which was appreciated.

Roger