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tgtaylor
3-Jun-2021, 12:49
I have the newer edition of this lens which was factory mounted in a copal 3 shutter and came with 2 disks instead of the 3 of the older models which were mounted in a compound shutter I believe. In the past I've only used this lens for 5x7 format which is supposedly the format it's optimized for. How will it work on the 8x10? Will it cover, will I get "mushy" or "swirly corners," will it deliver the full Imagon look?
Thomas
Peter De Smidt
3-Jun-2021, 12:56
Here you go. Note, this is the older version in a barrel.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/joap6qlw7isdtw4/Bryan%27s%20Bench%201200.jpg?raw=1
Dunno
I have Imagon 250 in Copal and 360 Imagon, I use with Packard OR SINAR Shutter
I prefer Packard in this case
Mark Sawyer
3-Jun-2021, 16:32
I have the newer edition of this lens which was factory mounted in a copal 3 shutter and came with 2 disks instead of the 3 of the older models which were mounted in a compound shutter I believe. In the past I've only used this lens for 5x7 format which is supposedly the format it's optimized for. How will it work on the 8x10? Will it cover, will I get "mushy" or "swirly corners," will it deliver the full Imagon look?
Thomas
The "Imagon Look" comes from using the h/stop disks with the little apertures open. I always likes using it with the conventional aperture, or wide open. The newer version in the modern Copal shutter has a more restricted aperture than the old Compound shutter, so it won't go quite as wild wide open.
A couple of old portraits with the old-style 300mm Imagon wide open on the 8x10 2D:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51159589017_da6b8f9751.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kWNgrB)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51161357770_5cb5b4bc6c_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kWXkem)
tgtaylor
3-Jun-2021, 18:01
Well here's the negative:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51224495940_f44b4f1f63_z.jpg
Shot it yesterday and developed it today for alternative printing. This was taken with the little disks open at H7.7 so I shot it at 1/125 second @ f8 as recommended by the meter without the ND filter with the front standard at maximum rise (see below). No mushy or swirly edges and not vignetted. Personally I like the result and wil try printing it as a platinum-toned kallitype this weekend.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51224002440_a421e285d4_z.jpg
Thomas
John Brady
4-Jun-2021, 09:53
This is the newer Imagon 300 in Copal with the H disk at 5.6 opening on disk. I photographed this in the Everglades for a magazine shoot that I did, everyone was so excited that I pulled out my 8x10 for some images. They all posed for pictures with me and the camera, funny thing is, they never used any of my film images, just my digitals.
I am not a huge fan of using the disks, I like the look of the barrel wide open better.
https://flic.kr/p/2m3y3Tg
I tried to figure out how to post something other than a thumbnail, but I have failed miserably!
360 Imagon with biggest holes open, 8X10
Look at the pearls
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51159122602_0a65eddf95_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kWKSMY)1 Baker, redone (https://flic.kr/p/2kWKSMY) by TIN CAN COLLEGE (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tincancollege/), on Flickr
Bernice Loui
5-Jun-2021, 10:40
Excellent example of using the Imagon stranier disc effect to enhance an expressive image.
:)
Bernice
360 Imagon with biggest holes open, 8X10
Look at the pearls
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51159122602_0a65eddf95_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kWKSMY)1 Baker, redone (https://flic.kr/p/2kWKSMY) by TIN CAN COLLEGE (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tincancollege/), on Flickr
Thank you Bernice!
A good sitter helps
Bob Salomon was very helpful by drilling into my head lighting ratio for Imagon
We had two 20 minute sessions. First was Digi and 11X14, the Digi worked well, we shot 130 images as sitter constantly moved, strobes of course to stop motion
The switch to film was not easy, I shot two 11X14
Second encounter, I asked for still pose, strobes again, Packard Shutter. Concept was Josephine Baker tribute.
Interesting this morning my radio was playing 'Blues Before Dawn (https://wdcb.org/program/blues-before-sunrise)' featuring Josephine Baker from 1926
Excellent example of using the Imagon stranier disc effect to enhance an expressive image.
:)
Bernice
Bernice Loui
6-Jun-2021, 10:40
It's all in the lighting that makes these Sorta-Focus lenses "Sing"..
Bernice
Bob Salomon was very helpful by drilling into my head lighting ratio for Imagon
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