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qinghua
27-Mar-2021, 11:55
why the view Grid Ground Glass lack 4 corners ?

qinghua
27-Mar-2021, 12:01
why the view Grid Ground Glass lack 4 corners ?

Dugan
27-Mar-2021, 12:13
The ground glass lacks four corners for two reasons:
One is to prevent the bellows from expanding or collapsing when focusing. Some cameras have tight tolerances, almost air-tight.
The other reason is so that you can check for vignetting. When set up to take the photo, if you can see the complete aperture through all four corners, the will be no mechanical vignetting. This is useful when using filters, lens hoods, etc.
I hope this helps.

Tin Can
27-Mar-2021, 14:06
Not all do. Some like cut corners for at least 2 reasons

We can use a corner to see the aperture and they allow less dust with bellows vacuum

Oren Grad
27-Mar-2021, 15:18
Threads merged.

qinghua: Please don't start start threads with the same question in more than one subforum... thanks.

Tin Can
27-Mar-2021, 15:36
'this this' I do that all the time

Havoc
28-Mar-2021, 01:33
I would think they cut them to avoid the weakest point of the glass. A bump or pressure on the corner is the best way to crack glass. Also less sharp points during production, transport and repair.

Tin Can
28-Mar-2021, 05:22
Some GG Frames have raised corners not allowing GG with square corners

Most seem deliberately designed and manufactured with that 'not' a flaw

Look at a few

Paul Ron
28-Mar-2021, 05:26
because large format is so tedious, they need to cut corners anywhere they can.

:cool:

John Layton
28-Mar-2021, 07:13
I'd prefer square corners...but I do like to be able to check coverage when using "extreme" movements.

As for the other issue...that of air compression/suction exploding/imploding one's bellows (ouch!) - there is another very easy solution, without cutting (ground glass) corners. Simply cut some air relief channels in the underside of your ground glass frame - on the film insertion side. Obviously easier with wood...but in designing my L-45A camera, I incorporated this feature so that I could preserve the squared screen corners.

Of course, my next move is to insert some accordion reeds into these channels - would make the act of focussing a musical event! :rolleyes:

Tin Can
28-Mar-2021, 07:25
Many newer metal cameras have air pressure vents

My Studio Deardorff moves a lot of air and dust, and I made my GG with cut corners, I can feel the breeze

Jim Jones
28-Mar-2021, 07:41
There's no mechanical vignetting if you look at the corners of the film gate through the lens and see no restriction of the aperture by the lens mount.

qinghua
28-Mar-2021, 10:57
why the view grid ground glass has no 4 corners ?

Mark Sawyer
28-Mar-2021, 12:05
So you can peek through the corners to see the lens aperture. If you can see the full aperture, you are not vignetting the image.

Drew Bedo
28-Mar-2021, 12:32
Yeah . . .I had always just thought it was to let the air out.

grat
28-Mar-2021, 15:42
If I recall correctly, some early cameras have rising corners, so you cut the corner by a specific amount to get the glass to sit in the frame at a specific height.