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alt.kafka
22-Sep-2020, 12:34
I recently picked up a Grafmatic back, and I haven't had a chance to use it yet. I have to say, though, that it's a really neat piece of engineering. It reminds me of one of those false door magic tricks where you put the coin in the slot and tap it with your wand, and it disappears. I've watched a few videos on it, and I'm really looking forward to taking it out in the field.

As neat as it is, the moving parts are mostly bent metal, and it seems like there could be come gotchya's to them. I certainly don't want to bend a septum. So what do I need to watch out for, either to avoid ruining my film, or to avoid breaking the Grafmatic?

Alan9940
22-Sep-2020, 12:59
IMO, the best two things you can do to avoid issues is to keep the interior clean so that it runs smoothly and don't bend any septums. A bent septum, even just slightly off, will probably cause it to jam. I have about half dozen Grafmatics that I've used for years without a single issue.

Tin Can
22-Sep-2020, 13:10
I have had problems but by calming down recently I find the same ones work fine now

Be deliberate and look for Red is Ready to expose

LabRat
22-Sep-2020, 20:38
You can damage the septums by three issues...

Dropping while handling (can bend corners)...

Make sure red dot is covered before inserting septums (if the end of the red dot slide inside chamber is not fully pushed out of chamber, it will dent septum touching it... Get into the habit of pushing away from chamber before inserting until you feel/hear a solid click)...

When film is loaded into septum stack, insert stack into holder with film notch end going in first (toward light baffle side)... inserted the other way can cause septum open end to get hung up or damaged as open end is thinner and there are places it could get caught (and get bent)...

These can jam by the film slipping from septums while vertical shooting, when septum can bang inside, and the film holding fingers can allow film to slip away a little and prevent advancing cycle... If film is oriented correctly in holder (notch up) and slide end is up, gravity helps keep film in place, but if film tends to be very loose in septum, you might have to add a dot of tape on the open end or some double stick tape under film...

On the end of holder that inserts in camera, inside chamber end is a piece of very fuzzy felt that can get dirty over time, or some of the fuzz can shed, so shop vac that end carefully, but if still shedding, felt can be replaced with rubber foam strip tape if needed...

Re-insert darkslide before exposing, as this will put pressure on back of septum being exposed (especially if the septums are not perfectly flat), and cover other septums inside if there is a blast of light that is fogging top sheet...

Not trying to paint a grim picture of these holders, but a through education and careful use will keep these working for a long (er) time...

Steve K

Chauncey Walden
23-Sep-2020, 08:32
What Steve said. I have 8 and no problems. Two more things for you. One is I lubricate the moving surfaces/contact points with Ice Wax. This is a bicycle chain wax that dires hard and non sticky. A very thin film is all that is required and that mostly on the edges of the septa. You can see from the wear patterns where it is needed. The other is that should you have a bent septum edge it can be straightened/reformed by sliding one of those 6 inch stainless rules in the slot to reform and support then slot and gently applying slight pressure using both hands and your thumbs in the needed locations to reflaten the septum.

alt.kafka
23-Sep-2020, 16:18
Excellent. Thank you all. I might even load one tonight.

ggbushaw
23-Sep-2020, 16:41
Others have hit all the main points about care and maintenance. I just wanted to say that I have a dozen Grafmatics and I haven't used any other kind of 4x5 holder since I first discovered them almost 45 years ago. I do have a couple of broken ones that I bought for parts at a swap meet, but I've actually never needed parts. If you exercise some care, they're really pretty robust.

popdoc
28-Sep-2020, 13:13
How many of you have removed the internal exposure counter/numbered disc?


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Daniel Unkefer
28-Sep-2020, 15:22
I have fond memories of using my Graphmatic 25 years ago with my 4x5 Norma. So now I am buying more of them; I now have six 4x5 and six 2x3. The 2x3s I will use with my Sinar Norma Rapid Adapter (automated sliding back). Particularly speedy setup! Thin based films (I'm enjoying playing with XRay film!) slide around in the septums and can jam the Graphmatics. Happened several times so far. Not a prob with landscape format but Man it's not good with verticals. I'm unwilling to modify the septums, I'll carry some Fidelities and Liscos for verticals. Or shoot photo film.

klw
29-Sep-2020, 00:33
The dark slide handle can break :(

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Tin Can
29-Sep-2020, 03:52
Some years ago on this forum there was a survey of many 4X5 film holders

It was determined by accordance that Grafmatics had the best 'T' dimension stack up

richydicky
29-Sep-2020, 09:45
All good tips and issues covered here. I've got four but had to refurbish the seals on three of them. Very tricky but doable. I have also found that quality can vary with the ones made under licence by Wray in the UK.

Oh, I hate it when I have purchased one to then discover the counter has been removed. Framing is never that precise especially if a sheet slips in the septum and it is useful to match them with notes.

alt.kafka
1-Oct-2020, 12:46
Is there any difference between a Grafmatic and the Fujifilm 45 Quick Changer?

Conrad . Marvin
11-Oct-2020, 14:40
I have been using Grafmatic backs on my 4x5 exclusively for years. I even sold all of my regular holders after not using them for 10 or so years. A couple of success pointers that I can add or agree with are......
The septums must hold the film. At the end of each side there is either a pressure clip or the side rail is bent or squeezed in to keep the film from sliding. If a blank sheet of film slips out with almost no pressure these clips Must somehow be adjusted.
Keep the holders clean and lubricated. I use Lemon Pledge On the side rails. Yup.
If you carry the holders loaded (backpack etc) Never pack them with the handles in the up position because if they get banged or jostled the film could slip in the septum. I always carry them on their sides or with the handles down protected.
You can remove the counters with a small amount of disassembly without damaging the holder and the film will Always position correctly.
I don’t know anything about the Fujifilm quick changer except that they are very expensive.
Good luck and enjoy the ease of loading, size of holder for 6 sheets of film and speed of shooting (like for panoramas).