Luland Produced Super Large Format Camera 3D panorama Tripod Head

[nbagno]

I thought I would share this head with you all. I've been using the Luland Sinar head with my P2, and it's been fantastic. So when I went looking for something to support 20 pounds of Toyo 8x10, I wanted to see if Luland had anything. They do, and I've been using it for a couple of months and, like the Sinar head, it's fantastic. It seems the Toyo is child's play for this thing. I can point it down to 45 degrees or anywhere in between, and with a slight tightening of the brass knob, it locks down completely. My other head would have had the camera falling ass over tit. In case you're looking for a ULF head, put this on your list to check out.



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[Tin Can]

Copies of these https://www.riestripod.com/

[nbagno]

Copies of these https://www.riestripod.com/

I assumed they copied something, I can say that they work great.

[Kiwi7475]

I assumed they copied something, I can say that they work great.


I assumed they copied something, I can say that they work great.

I have one too and can confirm it’s really great.
In fact everything they do is top notch CNC (lens boards, etc) and at extremely reasonable prices.

[Tin Can]

Yes, Luland does make great copies

I have at least a dozen of their Linhof Technika lens board copies

and I watched those heads sell slowly for over a year

not judging, observing

[Kiwi7475]

Yes, Luland does make great copies

I have at least a dozen of their Linhof Technika lens board copies

and I watched those heads sell slowly for over a year

not judging, observing


Yes, Luland does make great copies

I have at least a dozen of their Linhof Technika lens board copies

and I watched those heads sell slowly for over a year

not judging, observing

Confusing. Not sure why you’re emphasizing “copies” so many times. You also used it earlier. They’re Linhof type. Many manufacturers make them. I don’t think most of us would call a bunch of many manufacturers’ cameras “copies” because, say, they follow a Philips design. It would be more appropriate to call them copies if they were knock-off’s, like with the Linhof logo an all. Anyway doesn’t really matter.

[Sal Santamaura]

...I don’t think most of us would call a bunch of many manufacturers’ cameras “copies” because, say, they follow a Philips design...

I certainly would. And do. :)

[Tin Can]

Just ordered this, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Circle-Drawing-Tool-Stainless-Steel-Plotting-Compass-Drafting-Drawing-Ruler-Tool-/153779966697?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

[Luis-F-S]

Confusing. Not sure why you’re emphasizing “copies” so many times.
Because they are. I have 5 Ries heads. Won’t buy a copy or a Phillips camera copy either!

[Kiwi7475]

>> Because they are. I have 5 Ries heads. Won’t buy a copy or a Phillips camera copy either!

Good for you. Other's mileage may vary.

[interneg]

>> Because they are. I have 5 Ries heads. Won’t buy a copy or a Phillips camera copy either!

Good for you. Other's mileage may vary.

I'd find the whole complaining about 'copying' a little less hypocritical if there was some acknowledgement of how many companies in the USA have ripped off Arca-Swiss' dovetail QR plate design over the last 20 years.

And Phillips gave his blessing to those following his ideas of camera design. (https://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?36647-Dick-Phillips-and-his-8x10-cameras&p=352536&viewfull=1#post352536)

[Luis-F-S]

Doesn’t matter won’t buy either

[Peter De Smidt]

Does everyone here drive a Daimler-Benz?

[Corran]

Personally I won't use any camera except an original Camera Obscura© brand camera. Anything else is just a substandard knock-off. Probably made in China.

[Jody_S]

Does everyone here drive a Daimler-Benz?

Some of us buy used Manfrotto heads from the flea market for $30. Of course they're not shiny and new, and may even need to be disassembled and cleaned.

[Sal Santamaura]

Does everyone here drive a Daimler-Benz?Not any more. I bought one brand new in 1985. It was the least reliable vehicle I've ever owned. Now I drive a 2003 Honda Accord. It's the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. :)

[Peter De Smidt]

Sal, you must not have owned a Triumph, which was my first car. Every drive was an adventure. Will I make it home? There was only one way to tell...

[Jody_S]

Sal, you must not have owned a Triumph, which was my first car. Every drive was an adventure. Will I make it home? There was only one way to tell...

I'll see your Triumph and raise you a Lada Niva I bought new in 1995 IIRC

[Tin Can]

To acknowledge an improvement to older designs

Luland has a few, study them

Luland Produced Super Large Format Camera 3D panorama Tripod Head 150mm TH-150R (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Luland-Produced-Super-Large-Format-Camera-3D-panorama-Tripod-Head-150mm-TH-150R/183787405540?hash=item2aca9540e4:g:iRkAAOSwPyBZqQnH)

Yes that is a ARCA Swiss TYPE QR, but I have found almost nobody makes an exactly compatible Arca Swiss knock off

I don't use any Arca Swiss real products or the imitations, and have tried original and not

Consider this Luland product (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Luland-professional-custom-large-format-camera-lens-board-and-accessories/182867265920?hash=item2a93bd0980:g:SygAAOSw1-hfAwWn), it is unique and something a few here may want.

[Tin Can]

Bought a 1964 Fairlady (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datsun_Sports#SP310/SPL310) with metric body and SAE drive line.

Macarthur plan japan (https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/japan-reconstruction) supplied SAE machine tools

Paid $100, from storage buyout. Korean immigrant did the paint for tools in trade, a very good job!

That's Marnie (RIP) 1992, I used the car from 1983, sold for $2500

https://live.staticflickr.com/812/40844821251_00ffda553a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/25ejom4)Datsun Fairlady 1964 Marnie (https://flic.kr/p/25ejom4) by TIN CAN COLLEGE (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tincancollege/), on Flickr




I'll see your Triumph and raise you a Lada Niva I bought new in 1995 IIRC

[Luis-F-S]

Does everyone here drive a Daimler-Benz?
Had 3 got tired of $400 oil changes. Now drive Toyotas!

[David Lindquist]

Does everyone here drive a Daimler-Benz?

https://www.daimler.com/company/tradition/company-history/1885-1886.html

Thus all other makes are copies;)

Times like this I wish this forum had a like button.

Consider your post liked Peter.

David

[Sal Santamaura]

Sal, you must not have owned a Triumph...


I'll see your Triumph and raise you a Lada Niva...

No, I was at least smart enough to avoid purchasing automobiles with reputations for unreliability. Benz lore said it was the Energizer Bunny of cars. While my teenage contemporaries dreamed of American muscle cars, I fantasized about Mercedes sedans. I saved pennies for a decade after obtaining my degree, and we picked up one in Sindelfingen on the European Delivery Plan, then drove around there for a month before dropping it off at Bremerhaven for its ocean voyage here.


Had 3 got tired of $400 oil changes...

I'm a retired engineer. Benz oil changes cost me no more than those for any other vehicle, since I performed all maintenance and repairs myself. Scheduled maintenance and lots of repairs.


...Now drive Toyotas!

My Benz, when working, was a wonderful vehicle. The drivetrain mechanicals were bulletproof, but just about every "peripheral" failed, many of them multiple times. I often lamented that, in a perfect world, Mercedes engineers would have performed the top-level design and Toyota engineers completed detailed design, with Toyota factories manufacturing the vehicle. If that were how my 1985 model came into existence, it's very likely I'd still be driving it today, 35 years later.

[Drew Wiley]

Well, very few Phillips camera are out there, and the asking prices are very high, even though most folks would be shocked at how little I paid for my serial no. 009 Phillips, which still works wonderfully. So it is completely forgivable if people resort to buying Chamonix cameras of similar design, which is not in fact an iffy knockoff; they went into business asking permission from Dick Phillips to begin with, after he had retired from making his own cameras. Likewise, it's inevitable that things similar to the Ries head are going to be marketed. The question is, are they of equal quality? My Ries tripods per se are not only a time-tested design, but involve all non-ferrous hardware plus a superb warranty. How many brands can boast that? I once dropped one off a cliff and split a leg. When I admitted all that up front and asked the price of a new leg section, they refused to charge me, and promptly sent a free replacement. It's that kind of thing that creates long-term customer loyalty.

[Jim Noel]

My Otto tripods and heads preceded Ries, I believe. The tripods are lighter, stronger, and easier to use. The heads are models of simplicity and strength.

[David Lindquist]

My Otto tripods and heads preceded Ries, I believe. The tripods are lighter, stronger, and easier to use. The heads are models of simplicity and strength.

Which of course is why Otto prevailed in the marketplace and Ries fell by the wayside.

Oh no, wait, never mind. :)

David

[Greg]

Acquired a Luland head about a year ago. A friend saw it FS and described it to me. Actually thought that it was a Ries head by his description, so told him to buy it for me. When I received it, it turned out to be a Luland and not a Ries to my surprise. I have a larger Ries head that I use with my 11x14, and I have to say that the Luland head's quality of construction and finish in every way matches my Ries head which really surprised me based on other Chinese rip offs that I have had experience with. But in the future should I ever need to acquire another Ries/Luland tripod head, I would most certainly go the Ries way. Have spoken to them many times over the phone, and they have always been more than helpful in their advice to me. There's something so much different from corresponding with Luland via Email verses talking with an actual person at Ries in the USA.

[Kiwi7475]

Acquired a Luland head about a year ago. A friend saw it FS and described it to me. Actually thought that it was a Ries head by his description, so told him to buy it for me. When I received it, it turned out to be a Luland and not a Ries to my surprise. I have a larger Ries head that I use with my 11x14, and I have to say that the Luland head's quality of construction and finish in every way matches my Ries head which really surprised me based on other Chinese rip offs that I have had experience with. But in the future should I ever need to acquire another Ries/Luland tripod head, I would most certainly go the Ries way. Have spoken to them many times over the phone, and they have always been more than helpful in their advice to me. There's something so much different from corresponding with Luland via Email verses talking with an actual person at Ries in the USA.

This is just my opinion and I have no objection to anything you said but this sort of allegiance always surprises me. Companies would not blink twice to outsource fabrication or even outsource the support personnel oversees if it made sense to them financially. Most that can, do. Generally speaking, capitalism has no allegiance but to profits.

[Helcio J Tagliolatto]

I'll see your Triumph and raise you a Lada Niva I bought new in 1995 IIRC

I had a Lada Niva, also bought new in 1995. A real off road, a pleasant vehicle to face the Amazon, which served me well for one year in Manaus. Then, the acidic water in the city completely corroded the axles of the water pumps for windshield and headlight wipers, doors didn't close properly, the starter didn't work, electrical breaks routinely left me in the dark. The real Soviet nightmare.
As I always needed 4x4's, my current 2015 Mitsubishi Pajero TR4 I hope will be my last car purchase.