quick review on Shanghai 8x10 film (processed as negative and positive)

[pound]

I have been using Shanghai film for a while mainly in 4x5 format. A few years ago, I was told that they would stop manufacturing film and I was quite upset but then they are back again after a company JianCheng took over the brand and IP. They even went on to provide Ultra Large Format cuts providing a much needed alternative to the annual Ilford ULF cuts.

In this video I will share my process in shooting in for negative and as positive. Do let you know what you think of this film and would you use it for your work.


https://youtu.be/bWEALNPigZo

[Tin Can]

Very good Pound!


Thank you!

[Willie]

Are you able to write a review so we don't have to suffer through a little movie? They don't work well here for various reasons.

"JianCheng took over the brand and IP". What is "IP"?

[Tin Can]

Intellectual Property


Are you able to write a review so we don't have to suffer through a little movie? They don't work well here for various reasons.

"JianCheng took over the brand and IP". What is "IP"?

[ic-racer]

I posted a graphic comparison of ShangHai vs HP5 in 8x10 here:

https://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?155726-Shanghai-8x10-100-Film-Test

[Tin Can]

I found Pound's reversal technique interesting

Follow to his YouTube

[pound]

Are you able to write a review so we don't have to suffer through a little movie? They don't work well here for various reasons.

"JianCheng took over the brand and IP". What is "IP"?

Here is a summary
1. came with a 2 part box instead of the 3 parts box. In the box, the sheets are first keep in a black plastic envelope and then a paper brown envelope.
2. The sheets are separated with a interleave paper. I like this compared to FOMA where there is no interleave paper between teh sheets.
3. processed as negative using HC110 Dilution B 20c for 7mins.
4. Processed as positive using the reversal method. For reversal, I rated the film at ISO50. It reverses well with bit of yellow cast on the black & white slide.

[pound]

I posted a graphic comparison of ShangHai vs HP5 in 8x10 here:

https://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?155726-Shanghai-8x10-100-Film-Test
Nicely done. Usually I rate it as ISO100 and process in HC100 Dil B 20 C with continuous agitation. I just bought a box of 8x10 too. Happy to have it on 8x10 and bigger size.

My video was actually on the 4x5 film but I mistyped as 8x10 on the title. Now I could not change the main thread title.

[pound]

I found Pound's reversal technique interesting

Follow to his YouTube
thank you. continuing my reversal attempts on film, paper and today I just tried reversal on RA4 paper but that would b for another video/post.

[Kiwi7475]

I have been using Shanghai film for a while mainly in 4x5 format. A few years ago, I was told that they would stop manufacturing film and I was quite upset but then they are back again after a company JianCheng took over the brand and IP. They even went on to provide Ultra Large Format cuts providing a much needed alternative to the annual Ilford ULF cuts.

In this video I will share my process in shooting in for negative and as positive. Do let you know what you think of this film and would you use it for your work.


https://youtu.be/bWEALNPigZo

Great video, very informative and well done. I actually hadn’t seen anyone using the Paterson Orbital so it was also nice to see that. Your reversal process is also very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

You start the video comparing the price of Shanghai to FP4+. Are both film really similar in tonality etc? How do you find the quality and consistency of the Shanghai film, any issues with it?

[Tin Can]

I use Shanghai in 1/4 plate size as I have a few cameras that fit the NOT LF size.

I bought 4-100 sheet boxes direct from China

Works for me

[ic-racer]

Nicely done. Usually I rate it as ISO100 and process in HC100 Dil B 20 C with continuous agitation. I just bought a box of 8x10 too. Happy to have it on 8x10 and bigger size.

My video was actually on the 4x5 film but I mistyped as 8x10 on the title. Now I could not change the main thread title.\
I have never used the 4x5, but I will order some soon.

[pound]

Great video, very informative and well done. I actually hadn’t seen anyone using the Paterson Orbital so it was also nice to see that. Your reversal process is also very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

You start the video comparing the price of Shanghai to FP4+. Are both film really similar in tonality etc? How do you find the quality and consistency of the Shanghai film, any issues with it?

i cannot really comment on the tonality vs Fp4 as it has been quite a while since I shot FP4. The reciprocity failure of Shanghai is quite bad. You need to compensate for anytime 1 second or longer. However I seldom shoot low light scene. Here is one chart shared by Andrew before
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/testing-some-new-film-shanghai-8x10-how-i-do-it.171836/page-2

Some said the emulsion is soft and scratches more easily but I never encountered serious issues with it. I probably get I paid for but I am fine with that so far.

[Daniel Unkefer]

[QUOTE=pound;1560632]A few years ago, I was told that they would stop manufacturing film and I was quite upset.

Good Work with the video Pound :)

I saw they were stopping production back then, so I scoured the internet and bought what I could afford in 4x5, 5x7, and 8x10. This thread is timely as I have recently shot some 4x5 test frames but have not developed them yet.

https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=shanghaifilm

[Alan9940]

Some said the emulsion is soft and scratches more easily but I never encountered serious issues with it.

Found this to be true with 120 roll film. Nowadays, I use a hardening fixer and haven't had any emulsion damage since.