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joshuawhite
30-Jun-2020, 13:11
I am wondering if anyone would be willing to the front of their Dearorff SC11 off the camera and photograph, and better yet, measure each of the four panels that make up the mechanism? I would be willing to pay for this service. I was able to get into the High Point Museum today and make some measurements and videos, and it was very helpful, but I would love to see the parts taken apart and see how wide the stiles and rails are for the two panels constructed in that way, and how large the rectangular openings are in each panel (I know lensboard opening is 8"x8").

I am trying to re-create this piece, as my camera did not come with one. I know I can just make a simple board to take the place of this mechanism, and may do so. To be clear, I have attached pictures of what I am talking about. I do not simply need a lensboard.

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Thanks for any help you might be able to send my way!

Tin Can
30-Jun-2020, 14:18
I feel your pain

I will not, as it requires a lot of work, including dismounting my 4" ID Packard shutter installed inside

I know there are felt light traps too

Perhaps somebody has one in bits

and what if a beautiful sitter shows up just when I take it apart?

or I pass away and nobody ever puts Humpty Dumpty back together...

That would haunt me

Good luck!

slerman
12-Jul-2020, 07:14
Not sure if I can help--as the 14x14 seems a bit different. Let me know if/what to measure for you. 205739

joshuawhite
12-Jul-2020, 07:16
Not sure if I can help--as the 14x14 seems a bit different. Let me know if/what to measure for you. 205739

I really appreciate it, but that front looks completely different. I didn't even know they made a 14x14!

Thank you for the offer.

Duolab123
13-Jul-2020, 15:27
I really appreciate it, but that front looks completely different. I didn't even know they made a 14x14!

Thank you for the offer.

Just curious. What do you have? Is there a back? What size back? Do you have the stand? Mine came with the rotary 8x10 back which allows use of 5x7, 4x5 etc.

I'm not going to take mine apart but may be able to help. PM me a email, cell number. There's a lot of little details that aren't apparent. These guys were extraordinary craftspeople.

joshuawhite
13-Jul-2020, 17:19
Just curious. What do you have? Is there a back? What size back? Do you have the stand? Mine came with the rotary 8x10 back which allows use of 5x7, 4x5 etc.

I'm not going to take mine apart but may be able to help. PM me a email, cell number. There's a lot of little details that aren't apparent. These guys were extraordinary craftspeople.

I have an 11x14 SC 11 with an 11x14 back, and a rotating 8x10 back. My V8 8x10 back and 4x5 reducing backs fit into the rotating back, and I also have all the bellows extensions.

I have the stand and have just refurbished it.

What I don't have is the entire front mechanism of the camera. I have the two outer rails which screw to the front of the camera, but none of the rise/fall and shift mechanism. The first picture is what the front of my camera looks like. The second image is what I am missing, highlighted in green.

I'll send you a PM with my contact info.

Thank you!

Tin Can
13-Jul-2020, 18:26
Now we know what exactly you need.

I assumed you needed more, the green told me nothing

and far easier to take those missing parts apart

obvious now, you only need up and down then back and forth, not making a joke!

the plot is afoot

Duolab123
14-Jul-2020, 21:14
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This is the back of the front of mine. Clearly I need to do more cleaning.

Ernie W
6-Sep-2020, 17:43
Do you still need the info ?

Ernie W
7-Sep-2020, 15:38
My SC11 is number #136, the lens board is centered both L to R and top to bottom in the photos.

Duolab123
8-Sep-2020, 11:54
My SC11 is number #136, the lens board is centered both L to R and top to bottom in the photos.

Where is the serial number located? And why is your camera front laying on a pool table? :rolleyes:

Ernie W
12-Sep-2020, 16:53
The number is stamped in the clip which holds the lens board locked...

Ernie W
12-Sep-2020, 16:58
some details...

Ernie W
12-Sep-2020, 17:00
more...

Duolab123
12-Sep-2020, 19:19
The number is stamped in the clip which holds the lens board locked...

Mine is older than the slider it has the two twist tabs, my V8 Deardorff is the same.
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Tin Can
13-Sep-2020, 04:40
Mine also has no Serial #, with tabs

Duplab123, how big is your Packard shutter?

Mine is 4.5"ID and not recessed far enough at 1"

Gotta fix depth to 2" for a new lens and change the Packard to one that doesn't stick open...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50336303058_2d829cc4f7_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jG3Hd7)SC11 (https://flic.kr/p/2jG3Hd7) by TIN CAN COLLEGE (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tincancollege/), on Flickr


Mine is older than the slider it has the two twist tabs, my V8 Deardorff is the same.
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Duolab123
13-Sep-2020, 19:10
Mine also has no Serial #, with tabs

Duplab123, how big is your Packard shutter?

Mine is 4.5"ID and not recessed far enough at 1"

Gotta fix depth to 2" for a new lens and change the Packard to one that doesn't stick open...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50336303058_2d829cc4f7_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jG3Hd7)SC11 (https://flic.kr/p/2jG3Hd7) by TIN CAN COLLEGE (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tincancollege/), on Flickr

Tin Can, I got lucky, shutter came on an old Agfa? lens board, gray paint. Shutter opening is 2.5 inches which is perfect, shutter is 4.75 in. Mounted directly to the Deardorff lens board. I had to make a bit longer instantaneous pin, used a finishing nail, customized a bit the little brass knob isn't there but it works perfectly. I gave up trying to find a decent bulb. I'm using a bulb from a genuine blood pressure cuff someone brought home when the hospital upgraded. Ordered nice rubber hose. I was lucky the Packard hardware was on the old Agfa board
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Tin Can
14-Sep-2020, 04:35
Whatever works!

I found my 4.5" ID inside a very moldy Agfa 8X10 Studio camera, I didn't know it was there, as it was open, mounted to the middle standard and just looked like a hole...

Just before I sold the Agfa, I found the shutter, removed it and glad of it. Shortly a fellow showed up, bought the Agra with studio stand for $250, 10 times my purchase price. He was going to restore the set, which was sorely needed

I use some very large lenses on my SC11, it can handle any lens that fits 8X8" lens boards and beyond...




Tin Can, I got lucky, shutter came on an old Agfa? lens board, gray paint. Shutter opening is 2.5 inches which is perfect, shutter is 4.75 in. Mounted directly to the Deardorff lens board. I had to make a bit longer instantaneous pin, used a finishing nail, customized a bit the little brass knob isn't there but it works perfectly. I gave up trying to find a decent bulb. I'm using a bulb from a genuine blood pressure cuff someone brought home when the hospital upgraded. Ordered nice rubber hose. I was lucky the Packard hardware was on the old Agfa board
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Duolab123
14-Sep-2020, 16:14
When my company scrapped the process camera I brought home the Rodenstock lenses. The guy that did the accounts told me the lenses were incredibly expensive. The shortest lens was 60 inches, the other was 90 if I remember right. I had no use for them. I swapped them to a guy for a couple enlarging lenses. The camera was enormous. I brought some of the film home for a friend 3x5 feet.

Tin Can
14-Sep-2020, 17:15
My longest is 900 mm f9 Tessar, I have used it with all 75" of SC11 extension

I see one is FS, not mine!

Duolab123
14-Sep-2020, 18:58
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This and the Nikkor 450 M are what I play with the most.

Tin Can
15-Sep-2020, 05:33
Great lenses

According to old Deardorff catalog a 48" Artar was a factory option

Just found this 1963 Deardorff Catalog price list https://www.pacificrimcamera.com/rl/00299/00299.pdf

17X17 Stay Flat backs for ERC and 17x 17 Stay-Flat Double Holder



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This and the Nikkor 450 M are what I play with the most.

Jason Greenberg Motamedi
15-Sep-2020, 08:32
My camera came with a 4" Packard (ID) and stand-off adapter. It works beautifully for 19" or 24" copy camera lenses , but 4" isn't big enough for a few of my portrait lenses. Also, like Ernie's camera, mine has the serial number (153) stamped into the lensboard sliding lock.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200915/ee4726d20dd7134902904fcb28bb117b.jpg

Ernie W
15-Sep-2020, 13:58
A few details of my Packard Shutter, 7 1/2 in. square shutter, with a 4 in. hole, It's mounted on the film side of the shutter box, the shutter box will attach to the 8 in. RC lens board holder on the front of the camera. The front of the shutter box will also take an 8 in. RC lens board.

Tin Can
15-Sep-2020, 14:31
Is the white object in the corner nestled with shutter sync wire a switch?

Maybe for test firing any light?

Ernie W
15-Sep-2020, 15:39
A toggle switch wired between the shutter and the terminal on the outside of the box. I haven't used the Packard shutter.