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Fragomeni
16-Jun-2020, 15:39
Hi all. I’m looking to get a sense of lenses that meet this criteria. Specifically:

- focal lengths of 480-600mm
- lens in barrel
- faster than f9
- image circle that can cover 14x17 wide open

Any help would be appreciated.

Hugo Zhang
16-Jun-2020, 15:56
19 inch dagor?

Drew Wiley
16-Jun-2020, 15:59
Did you mean in wheelbarrow?

Fragomeni
16-Jun-2020, 16:00
Haha, there are a handful out there that don’t require a forklift Im sure.

erian
16-Jun-2020, 16:06
Hi all. I’m looking to get a sense of lenses that meet this criteria. Specifically:

- image circle that can cover 14x17 wide open

Any help would be appreciated.

Is it for portraits or similar work?

Dan Fromm
16-Jun-2020, 16:42
500/6.3 Krauss Tessar. Not that common but they turn up from time to time on ebay.com and ebay.fr.

Fragomeni
16-Jun-2020, 16:49
Is it for portraits or similar work?

This is actually for a camera obscura.
https://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?158683-Homemade-Camera-Obscura

I’m just looking to get the brightest image on the ground glass that I can. I’m also looking for a large fresnel lens to brighten it as well.

erian
16-Jun-2020, 17:25
I did 50x60cm 1:1 portraits with Zeiss Tessar 500mm f/4.5 (definitely too close), so it might work nice for 14x17" also from longer distances. There exits some longer Tessars that are also wider than f/9 but these are rare.

AuditorOne
16-Jun-2020, 17:29
Another option.

Get in touch with Reinhold Schabe at www.re-inventedPhotoEquip.com. He sells Ultra Large Format Wollaston Meniscus Landscape lenses for a very reasonable price. These have been used since the beginning of photography and are actually very capable lenses. They can be soft focus or sharper depending on your needs. I use my 500mm f6.9 lens on an 11x14 camera but it will cover up to 16x20 if I'm not mistaken. It's certainly not a Tessar but it does a surprisingly good job.

Fragomeni
16-Jun-2020, 17:32
Another option.

Get in touch with Reinhold Schabe at www.re-inventedPhotoEquip.com. He sells Ultra Large Format Wollaston Meniscus Landscape lenses for a very reasonable price. These have been used since the beginning of photography and are actually very capable lenses. They can be soft focus or sharper depending on your needs. I use my 500mm f6.9 lens on an 11x14 camera but it will cover up to 16x20 if I'm not mistaken. It's certainly not a Tessar but it does a surprisingly good job.

This is very interesting. Can you confirm the link though? That is a dead link.

Fragomeni
16-Jun-2020, 17:33
Ah, never mind. I found the site. Thank you.

AuditorOne
18-Jun-2020, 09:33
Ah, never mind. I found the site. Thank you.

Good.

I have two of his lenses, a 500mm I use on 11x14 and a 285 that I use on my 8x10.

Working with the Wollaston Meniscus lenses is a bit different than working with your typical Tessar or Dialyte but I enjoy using them. You can certainly make them for yourself, they really are not that complex, but Reinhold does a great job with them so I don't mind parting with the funds for his work.

He doesn't work with Paypal so it takes a check or a money order but I certainly don't mind that.

Greg
18-Jun-2020, 16:33
How about a Beseler lens from one of their opaque/overhead (forget which) projectors. Many years ago I sold my 14x17 film holders (medical ones) to a photographer in the Boston area who used one of these lenses on his 14x17. I picked up a 14" one that I intend to experiment with on my 11x14. No aperture listed on the lens, but f/4.5 sticks in my mind for some reason. In the late 1970s used a Beseler projector that probably had a 500-600mm lens on it and had to be easily in the f/5.6 range.

Drew Bedo
19-Jun-2020, 16:03
I don't really know . . .just brain-storming . . .

Do any of the HUGE Petzval lenses I see on e-Bay meet any f your requirements. I think some might cover enough and some would be fast enough . . .

Sanford
21-Jun-2020, 10:26
I think Giles Clement uses a 500mm 4.5 Goerz Dogmar for his 16X20" plates