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fotoresearch
28-May-2020, 10:23
Welcome everyone,

I just became the owner of this lens: HERMAGIS 440mm Aplanat No.4 Series II. // Serial number: 36070 //

I have only one problem with it, on the lens iris - instead of the aperture markings I have the number markings

1
2
4
8
16
32
64

What aperture corresponds to these numbers?

It is difficult for me to determine whether I should use the US or French measure
How can you check it?

Someone told me that the initial f value of my lens should be: focal lenght divided by the diameter.
In my case it will be: 440mm / 60mm (about) = 7,33
So should I assume that my lens start from f/8 and this is French system?

Best
Lukasz

Two23
28-May-2020, 10:34
I'm going to assume that 1 means fully open, 2 means half as much light, 4 means a fourth as much light.......


Kent in SD

pgk
28-May-2020, 11:14
Might be worth looking at: http://www.earlyphotography.co.uk/site/lens_diaphragm.html

fotoresearch
31-May-2020, 13:10
Thank you for your answer.
The material is interesting, it didn't give me an answer in 100% - straightforward, but at least I know in which direction I'm going.
I will have to do some tests - I'm lucky that I have cheap mammography films - financially, the tests won't hurt.

fotoresearch
31-May-2020, 13:11
When I was looking for answers on the web, it was not explicitly stated where it meant ... so I will have to test;)

Andrew Plume
31-May-2020, 14:09
Hi

".....focal lenght divided by the diameter......." of the width of the lens element/glass is exactly what I would be doing

good luck and regards

Andrew

Ari
3-Jun-2020, 20:17
I had the same query years back. All I remember was someone telling me "f/16 is f/16".
I guess what he meant was that f/16 is the same in the US or standard system. The other stops you'll have to figure out.

fotoresearch
5-Jun-2020, 12:28
Somewhere on the net I found this representation of value.

Iris No | f value
1 = f/10
2 = f/14
4 = f/20
8 = f/28
16 = f/40
32 = f/56
64 = f/81

At the beginning I thought that my initial value of f is 8, .... but during the test on f / 9, and saw that the picture is underexposed.
So it may turn out that the following values will match.

Tomorrow tests for each aperture value. :)

quickeye
9-Jun-2020, 12:55
I found this on the internet some time ago and use it with my Hermagis lens.204574

lungovw
9-Jun-2020, 14:33
It is not that difficult to measure them: https://apenasimagens.com/en/measuring-lens-aperture/

fotoresearch
10-Jun-2020, 02:37
It's definitely a better version of information than what I have.
I see that some values ​​- in the French model which I have - coincide with mine, but some deviate.

I have already done the first film tests (8x10"), so they have dried today and I will let you know.

Thank you!