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dodphotography
20-May-2020, 07:30
Admittedly, I am very bad at envisioning a GG and how a certain focal length / comparison between two more FL's appears in practice.

I have a 450M - thinking of adding a second lens. I am unsure how drastic of a difference a 355mm would make vs the 450. The other option is a 10". Neither lens is close enough for me to actually mount and see the difference , which would ve the ultimate way of answering this easy question.

Luis-F-S
20-May-2020, 08:44
I'd get a long Artar as a second lens. Either a 19" or 24" depending on coverage. Don't know of many 10" lenses that will cover 11x14 with movements. L

Oren Grad
20-May-2020, 09:24
For 11x14, roughly speaking, divide by ten to get a 35mm "equivalent". (Yes, I know, different aspect ratio and all that.)

For me, the difference between 355 and 450 is large, the difference between 10" and 450 downright intergalactic. But then a semiwide like 355 or 360 is my "normal" for 11x14, I'm very sensitive to differences in the way foreground/background relationships are rendered as you go longer or shorter than that, and my interest tends toward wide rather than long. I actually don't have much use for lenses longer than 360 on 11x14 - wouldn't use a 450 very much - but I can happily split hairs among focal lengths shorter than 360 and find a use for every last one.

But that's how I see. I know you've done a fair bit of 8x10. As a starting point, the focal length spacing you find comfortable on 8x10 should, scaled proportionately (1.4x is close enough), be a reasonable guide to what you'll find useful on 11x14.

cuypers1807
20-May-2020, 09:39
For 11x14, I use a Nikon 450mm f/9 and 14in Commercial Ektar the most. I just added a Nikkor APO 610 f/9. If you are shooting close, a lot of 8x10 lenses will cover 11x14. I like to shoot 11x14 macros with a Schneider 150mm Super-Symmar XL.

Tin Can
20-May-2020, 09:52
10" Wide Field Ektar

Just makes it, maybe

I have mounted one in studio...

But nothing here https://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?125382-The-250mm-10-quot-Wide-Field-Ektar-thread&p=1276852&viewfull=1#post1276852

MAubrey
20-May-2020, 11:09
This site lets you simulate angle of view, DOF for various focal lengths and subject framings from tiny digital sensors all the way up to 11x14:

https://dofsimulator.net/en/

Greg
24-May-2020, 16:07
So much has to do with the subject matter that you are shooting and your ability to move closer or farther away from the subject. When I was photographing waterfalls in the gorges of southern New England, I was using an 8x10 and usually carried the following focal lengths with me: 210mm, 250mm, and 300mm. Almost all the time I was only able to shoot from just one place or vantage point relative to the waterfall. The effective difference between these 3 close focal lengths seemed huge to me when out in the field.Presently I now photograph with an 11x14 as much as I can. No more climbing upstream over what would be classified as a 4th class "hike". Most images taken within carrying distances from the back of my car. So now carry the following focal lengths with me: 200mm, 355mm or 360mm, and a 508mm or 600mm. These three optics offer me 3 very different viewpoints.Don't have a 450mm to compare with a 355mm, but do have 355mm and 508mm lenses. Honestly I don't find there to be a "drastic" difference between them. Between a 355mm and a 600mm, yes I do find a good difference between then but don't view it as a "drastic" difference.

Tracy Storer
24-May-2020, 18:25
Think about lens focal lengths as they relate to the long and short sides, (and the diagonals) of the formats in question. 14" lens on 11x14 will be like to a 10" lens on 8x10, or a 5" lens on 4x5. (or a 24" lens on 20x24)

Michael Kadillak
24-May-2020, 20:30
I'd get a long Artar as a second lens. Either a 19" or 24" depending on coverage. Don't know of many 10" lenses that will cover 11x14 with movements. L

The 240mm Computer will cover 11x14 with movements no problem. I agree with you that the 19" and the 24" lens are not that "long" on 11x14. I find I also use the 30" and 35" focal lengths as well in the expansive mountains of Colorado, Wyoming and Montana.

Mark Sampson
24-May-2020, 21:51
I'll suggest that it all depends upon your subject matter, whatever that may be.