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jtbold
25-Jan-2020, 07:11
I am new to this, but is there a current source for new shutters? I ask for two reasons - like to buy one or two as I have had bad luck with used ones.. though I do have a cool display of old shutters, secondly through my wife I have contacts in South America that own manufacturing companies that make parts much like shutters for the oil industry....

Louis Pacilla
25-Jan-2020, 07:15
No longer available as new and all stock left has probably been bought up by manufacturers like Rodenstock & others.

Emmanuel BIGLER
25-Jan-2020, 07:28
Hi!

If we are speaking about mechanical leaf shutters, Packard shutters do exist!
https://packardshutter.com/

Sure if you need speeds up to 1/60-th, Packard shutters are not what you need.
There exist various electronic leaf shutters ...
at a nominal cost ... (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/890360-REG/Rodenstock_e62000_eShutter_Electronic_Shutter.html)

Bob Salomon
25-Jan-2020, 07:28
Electronic ones like the Rodenstock eShutter but mechanical ones like Copal are all out of production.

Oslolens
25-Jan-2020, 07:50
I am new to this, but is there a current source for new shutters? I ask for two reasons - like to buy one or two as I have had bad luck with used ones.. though I do have a cool display of old shutters, secondly through my wife I have contacts in South America that own manufacturing companies that make parts much like shutters for the oil industry....I believe most of these are still working: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m4084.l1313&_nkw=Nikkor-W+ Everything for the oil industry has to be explotion proof, so I can't think any company will economic gain to switch to lens shutters with such prices.

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Len Middleton
25-Jan-2020, 09:09
I am new to this, but is there a current source for new shutters? I ask for two reasons - like to buy one or two as I have had bad luck with used ones.. though I do have a cool display of old shutters, secondly through my wife I have contacts in South America that own manufacturing companies that make parts much like shutters for the oil industry....

As indicated by others, new mechanical shutters are no longer being built, and that is not a technical decision, but an economic one, as there is unlikely sufficient market demand to justify the manufacturing costs, including infrastructure cost (e.g. tooling and assembly equipment).

If we eliminate the word "new" from your requirement, then you might find on eBay a large number of lens groups being sold without shutters, and my assumption is the shutters were worth more to the individual, than the assembled lens. So in some cases you could buy a lens with the shutter you want and might be able to purchase it cheaply if the lens is not desirable due to condition or just because of the nature of the lens itself. Many mechanical shutters have a long service lifetimes with regular CLAs (Clean, Lubricate, Adjust), and can be repaired as long as the parts are available, and non-working shutters are sometimes cannibalized for the purpose of providing those parts.

You might want to look further into whether you can have your existing shutters repaired.

If you are able to find someone or some organization who is prepared to manufacture new standardized shutters at a reasonable cost, that would be a great benefit to our LF community.

I suspect however that it would need to be a non-economic based decision for them...

Hope that provides some further insight,

Len

Sal Santamaura
25-Jan-2020, 09:19
If you need a Copal 3, they're still available brand new:


https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/71069-REG/Copal_CO_3_567_3_Shutter_3_567.html

jtbold
25-Jan-2020, 09:22
My wife's family is from Venezuela, a country that has a ton of problems - one uncle in particular has a manufacturing plant, with very little to manufacture but because of the laws he has to keep a good portion of the workers employed. They get enough business from the oil company to get by, but has excess capacity in both machinery and workers. I'll send him down a shutter and see what they think.

Sal Santamaura
25-Jan-2020, 12:13
My wife's family is from Venezuela, a country that has a ton of problems - one uncle in particular has a manufacturing plant, with very little to manufacture but because of the laws he has to keep a good portion of the workers employed. They get enough business from the oil company to get by, but has excess capacity in both machinery and workers. I'll send him down a shutter and see what they think.

Be sure to let him know the dimensional tolerances when sending that shutter. Distance between mounting surfaces is critical.

Len Middleton
25-Jan-2020, 16:07
My wife's family is from Venezuela, a country that has a ton of problems - one uncle in particular has a manufacturing plant, with very little to manufacture but because of the laws he has to keep a good portion of the workers employed. They get enough business from the oil company to get by, but has excess capacity in both machinery and workers. I'll send him down a shutter and see what they think.

Do make sure you send him a standard sized shutter i.e. Copal 0, 1, or 3 for reference...

Greg
25-Jan-2020, 16:28
Keep an eye on eBay. In the past year or two or three, I picked up a NOS Ilex #5 and a NOS Copal 3 for under $300 each. Don't have the barrel lenses to be mounted in them yet, but at least I have the shutters. Also once bought a 12" or 14" Ektar whose glass was completely trashed for under $200 just to acquire the large Ilex. While back heard from a friend in NYC that one camera store down there had a bunch of NOS shutters in their back room and they were FS. No, he wouldn't tell me which store it was at the time, and I have unfortunately lost contact with him. If you're in NYC, I'd ask around in every small Photo store (remember them), maybe you'll get lucky.

Tin Can
25-Jan-2020, 17:29
I was just shopping these shutters, https://packardshutter.com/

These are very old and still made. They work well for me

I was looking for a smaller size they don't make, to fit inside a 120 year old camera, but I have a plan...

jtbold
25-Jan-2020, 19:49
I plan on sending him a couple and see what he can do.

Oslolens
26-Jan-2020, 03:02
Keep an eye on eBay. In the past year or two or three, I picked up a NOS Ilex #5 and a NOS Copal 3 for under $300 each. Don't have the barrel lenses to be mounted in them yet, but at least I have the shutters. Also once bought a 12" or 14" Ektar whose glass was completely trashed for under $200 just to acquire the large Ilex. While back heard from a friend in NYC that one camera store down there had a bunch of NOS shutters in their back room and they were FS. No, he wouldn't tell me which store it was at the time, and I have unfortunately lost contact with him. If you're in NYC, I'd ask around in every small Photo store (remember them), maybe you'll get lucky.Skgrimes.com made me adapter rings for my Ilex #5 so I can mount achromat close-up filters behind to have a "cheap" Kodak Portrait lens, and both front and back to have a soft aplanat.

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