Yosemite Historic Names RESTORED!

[tgtaylor]

https://fox5sandiego.com/2019/07/15/yosemite-national-parks-iconic-names-restored/

Thomas

[Jim Fitzgerald]

The new names were terrible and I would never use them..... ever. I've been going to Yosemite for over 60 years and no way those name were in my vocabulary.

[Sirius Glass]

Finally! About time!

[Merg Ross]

The new names were terrible and I would never use them..... ever. I've been going to Yosemite for over 60 years and no way those name were in my vocabulary.

Sixty-five years here, and can't agree more. At last, a bit of sanity!

Cheers,
Merg

[Sal Santamaura]

How unfortunate that Delaware North received even a penny. It should have been held responsible for the government's legal fees during this mess that it created.

[Drew Wiley]

I found it curious how I didn't even remember the substitute names, nor did anyone else I've talked to. In fact, I totally forgot that the ruse had ever happened. We just kept referring to the traditional names as if nothing ever happened. But I did note that the Park was just buying time, and that the older signage was in place all along, and the substitutes signs merely applied like a veneer, designed to be easily removed.

[Tin Can]

Sears Tower is Sears Tower

and so on

[pepeguitarra]

Interesting, the FOX site "news" offers an article published by CNN!

[Drew Wiley]

Well, what seems traditional now has its roots in something otherwise. When I grew up near there, we contemptuously referred to Yosemite as "Curry National Park" because it was being run like a private concession. To many of us, "Camp Curry" is itself just an older version of the same kind of corporate insult. "The Ahwahnee Hotel" at least gives tribute to the name of the tribe which originally lived there, the Ahwahneechee. So too does the little town of Ahwahnee outside the Park. Of course, all the Indians were all chased out of the Park to make room for the tourist industry, which included several big past hotels well before the Ahwahnee was built, and only a small number of descendants remain.

[John Kasaian]

Good news about the old names returning.
Now if they'd only return Housekeeping to being Camp 16 and get rid of the Yosemite Park & Curry Company DP camp-esque concrete structures, Aramark may be on to something:o.

[seabee1999]

Awesome news!

R/
Dave

[Drew Wiley]

Tin Can - what do they do with Sears Tower? All that's left of Sears could be run from the accounting department in the back half of a Roach Coach. There was a saying back when Sears and KMart merged : two drunks tied together in a sack race. That sure proved true. Might as well rename the tower while they still can in order to charge for some new logo privilege. They've darn near run out of every other option to generate cash - already sold more pints of their blood than their body can hold. There's even been discussion within the Govt more than once of outright privatizing National Parks for sake of generating the income to run them. The Ahwahnee might get renamed "McDonald's Naturale". The bears there are already too fat to work behind a counter; so I doubt pilfering French fries all day long would help.

[Tin Can]

Wow!


Tin Can - what do they do with Sears Tower? All that's left of Sears could be run from the accounting department in the back half of a Roach Coach. There was a saying back when Sears and KMart merged : two drunks tied together in a sack race. That sure proved true. Might as well rename the tower while they still can in order to charge for some new logo privilege. They've darn near run out of every other option to generate cash - already sold more pints of their blood than they're body can hold. There's even been discussion within the Govt more than once of outright privatizing National Parks for sake of generating the income to run them. The Ahwahnee might get renamed "McDonald's Naturale". The bears there are already too fat to work behind a counter; so I doubt pilfering French fries all day long would help.

[John Kasaian]

What is really cool about this---at Badger Pass seniors ski mid-week free and if you've got the geezer pass, that's good for free entrance into the YNP.
Hot dog!:D

[Drew Wiley]

People were still skiing in the Tahoe area last week! Must still be a lot of snow in the real high country further south.

[DavidFisk]

https://fox5sandiego.com/2019/07/15/yosemite-national-parks-iconic-names-restored/

Thomas

Right after the name change, I had a sweatshirt printed with "It's the Ahwahnee, Stupid" and wore it all around and inside the hotel. The manager was none too pleased, but couldn't do anything about it. The employees, however, were delighted and said if I had one made with black letters on white background, they would sign it. So I did, and they did.

[Drew Wiley]

That was a cool idea! But if it were me, I'd have looked up one of my ole Indian classmates from that side of the river and had them wear the shirt, maybe with the added statement, Weren't the Delawares an East Coast tribe?

[DavidFisk]

That was a cool idea! But if it were me, I'd have looked up one of my ole Indian classmates from that side of the river and had them wear the shirt, maybe with the added statement, Weren't the Delawares an East Coast tribe?

If I had an inventory of the shirts, it would have sold out in a heartbeat. One elderly lady sitting in the Ahwahnee Meadow looked at the shirt and said, "Oh, bless you."

[Drew Wiley]

There are three places which kept the name Ahwahnee alive. Besides the Hotel, there's the little town of Ahwahnee outside the Park. It was completely destroyed by a giant arson forest fire around 1963, but has somewhat rebuilt. I have a family member who lives near there. Then there was a big TB Sanitorium overlooking the San Joaquin canyon called the Ahwahnee, now abandoned. But for awhile it was converted into a big county rest home, just up a tiny road from my place, less than a mile away, but, even if on the wrong river, was where some of the very last true aboriginal members of the Western Miwok passed away, who actually spoke the Ahwahneechee dialect. None of them ever got even a dime from the 19th tourist industry. Most were outright exterminated during the Gold Rush. On our side of the River it was a different story, and the Monache were not even fully pacified until around 1915.

[John Kasaian]

My son and his climbing bud are doing the Mathis Crest Traverse and Unicorn Peak this very day.
This is not terribly good for my blood pressure.

[Drew Wiley]

Hi John. I'd think that the hardest part would be surviving the mosquitoes in the meadows below the Crest. I'm opting for Wyoming this summer, where the snowpack is only 110%. Bugs will be bad enough there. Maybe Kings Can late Sept. Heavy snow years like this can be wonderful visually because both Spring-like bloom and Fall color exist side by side in Sept around 9000 ft or so. But the runoff must still be quite dangerous in Yosemite at the moment.

[John Kasaian]

Hi John. I'd think that the hardest part would be surviving the mosquitoes in the meadows below the Crest. I'm opting for Wyoming this summer, where the snowpack is only 110%. Bugs will be bad enough there. Maybe Kings Can late Sept. Heavy snow years like this can be wonderful visually because both Spring-like bloom and Fall color exist side by side in Sept around 9000 ft or so. But the runoff must still be quite dangerous in Yosemite at the moment.

The lads came home early this morning well munched on by those Yosemite skeeters.

[Drew Wiley]

Great news, John. My parents learned never to ask where I was going. When my nephew lived with me, my sister phoned up and made me promise to give him a lecture not to climb Lost Arrow. I patiently listened and promised her he no intention of doing that any time soon - because he already did it the weekend before!

[DavidFisk]

Great news, John. My parents learned never to ask where I was going. When my nephew lived with me, my sister phoned up and made me promise to give him a lecture not to climb Lost Arrow. I patiently listened and promised her he no intention of doing that any time soon - because he already did it the weekend before!

You would have made a good lawyer. You sound just like me.

[Alan Klein]

$12 million to be able to re-use the names. Wow!

[John Kasaian]

$12 million to be able to re-use the names. Wow!

This is what I don't understand---Delaware North and Aramark are concessionaires (Delaware North runs Kings Canyon.) They don't own the facilities nor do/should they own the historic names which proceeded
their contracts but rather should maintain the names, just like the physical buildings in their care.

There are a lot of different concessionaires (Xanterra in the Grand Canyon, for instance) in the National Parks. I fear this could set a bad (or lucerative, for lawyers,) precedent.

[Drew Wiley]

Lawyers win either way. Last year the shower houses down in Cedar Grove were being fully rebuilt. The concessions both there and higher up at Grant Grove are well run. Was worth it to take advantage of the huge breakfast buffet up at the top after twelve days of backpack food. No name changes there. The problem in Yosemite is that the FORMER concessionaire had acquired the licensing rights to the previous names. If it were me, I'd just forego the lawyers and resume the practice of publicly feeding the bears again, but in this case reintroduce some very hungry grizzlies habituated with a taste for marketing executives.