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TheElVee
24-Mar-2019, 06:47
Hi all,

I do a lot of industrial and architecture work and am looking to make the jump from MF to LF. I found the Cambo Wide DS, which looks to fit my needs perfectly, but is unfortunately no longer produced and what I'm finding on eBay isn't looking great (wrong focal lengths, etc.). The new Cambos look only to do film. Basically looking for a super portable outfit that isn't large. I also found the Silvestri T30 but on their website that looks to be discontinued as well. Any thoughts?

Peter De Smidt
24-Mar-2019, 06:57
Arca, Alpa....

Andrew Plume
24-Mar-2019, 07:10
Assume that you are only looking at the 4 x 5 format..............?

If so what focal length lenses are you intending to use............?

regards

Andrew

TheElVee
24-Mar-2019, 07:21
Assume that you are only looking at the 4 x 5 format..............?

If so what focal length lenses are you intending to use............?

regards

Andrew

Yes, I had 6x9 and other MF cameras, so would like to make the jump up. 8x10 is probably too big at this time. Looking for something around 70-75mm I think, giving me something close-ish to a 20mm equivalent on 35mm format I believe?

Dan Fromm
24-Mar-2019, 07:38
Current listing, archived:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190324143720/https://www.ebay.com/itm/CAMBO-WIDE-DS-4X5-Film-Rotating-Back-72MM-XL-5-6-Schneider-SUPER-ANGULON-LENS/254153656549

If you've got the money, honey, the seller has the Wide DS.

rdeloe
24-Mar-2019, 08:20
This thing? https://www.ebay.com/itm/DAYI-Toyo-4x5-Portable-Professional-Wide-Angle-Large-Format-Camera/281148846029?hash=item4175c6efcd:g:tH4AAOSwJd1b0EmV

Andrew Plume
24-Mar-2019, 08:27
This thing? https://www.ebay.com/itm/DAYI-Toyo-4x5-Portable-Professional-Wide-Angle-Large-Format-Camera/281148846029?hash=item4175c6efcd:g:tH4AAOSwJd1b0EmV

Bear in mind that the price is only for the frame and excludes the required 'cone' and lens

regards

Andrew

Andrew Plume
24-Mar-2019, 08:28
Yes, I had 6x9 and other MF cameras, so would like to make the jump up. 8x10 is probably too big at this time. Looking for something around 70-75mm I think, giving me something close-ish to a 20mm equivalent on 35mm format I believe?

Thx - your price bracket would also help.........................

regards

Andrew

Bernice Loui
24-Mar-2019, 08:59
Lens choice first, film format second, camera choice third.

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Lens with 120 degree angle of coverage, about 12.5mm lens diagonal angle of view on 35mm film format.

Schneider 38mm f5.6 Super Angulon XL, 6x12 film format 137mm image circle @ f22.

Schneider 47mm f5.6 Super Angulon XL, 4x5 film format 166mm image circle @ f22.

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Lens with 115 degree angle of coverage, about 14mm lens diagonal angle of view on 35mm film format.
Schneider 72mm f5.6 Super Angulon XL, 5x7 or 13x18cm film format 229mm image circle @f22.

Might need a graduated density center filter to aid in light fall off.

*Camera of choice must have the ability to use the full capability of these lenses and much more. Lenses of longer focal length can be used if these minimum focal lengths are easily accommodated by the camera of choice.

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*8x10 film format is a severe difficult with very wide angle lenses due to what lenses were made for 8x10 film format. Add to this film flatness, camera size and more reduces the usefulness of 8x10 for really wide angle cameras. Also both 4x5 & 8x10 are 4:3 ratio images more suitable for portraits than wide angle images that are similar to 35mm still film, 6x9_6x12 or 5x7_13x18cm. Alternatively there are panoramic film formats from 6x12 to 6x17, 2-1/2"x7, 4x10, 8x20 and others.

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*Camera choice should be driven by choice of optics and image making needs as a view camera is essentially a light tight box with the option of front and-or rear (where the film or image recording device is held) standards. It is always a trade off between weight, camera movement capability, camera precision-accuracy, camera stability, camera's ability to use specific lenses. For industrial and architecture work a view camera that has very few limits, modular and can be configured to the needs of image making demands, wide and easy availability at modest cost of various modules is ideal. Which brings up what sounds like a never ending repeat for some here, Sinar system could be the ideal choice for industrial and architecture work.



Bernice

Jac@stafford.net
24-Mar-2019, 09:17
Bear in mind that the price is only for the frame and excludes the required 'cone' and lens

Nor a Graflock back.

Andrew Plume
24-Mar-2019, 09:37
Nor a Graflock back.

Thx, spot on - it subsequently occurred to me

regards

Andrew

Daniel Unkefer
24-Mar-2019, 09:44
Last year I finished this homemade Sinar Norma Handy. I love using this camera. It utilizes the 65mm F8 chrome Super Angulon and is cobbled together with Norma parts.

Low cost and it does a beautiful job.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4692/39396426651_b3262020f7_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/232jZ6n)Sinar Handy with Strap and Cable Extension (https://flic.kr/p/232jZ6n) by Nokton48 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/18134483@N04/), on Flickr

Here's another idea off the internet, very similar

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7906/40195868583_7abbc70027_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24eYkjX)cambo wide homemade (https://flic.kr/p/24eYkjX) by Nokton48 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/18134483@N04/), on Flickr

Bob Salomon
24-Mar-2019, 10:36
There was also this, with either electric release or a standard cable release.

http://linhof.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Linhof_1978_Technar.jpg

Andrew Plume
24-Mar-2019, 12:53
The Leica Shop in Vienna currently have one for sale

http://www.leicashop.com/vintage_en/linhof/cameras/linhof-technar-4x5-sku29862-5.html

regards

Andrew