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Dave Wooten
15-Jan-2019, 19:30
Any users of the 10 x 12 format?

andrewch59
15-Jan-2019, 20:02
Yes, I have a lighweight 10x12 Vageeswari, I dont use it that much these days. I made my own shutter out of half a speed graphic and would use my old barrel lenses with it. I only ever used xray film though.

Monty McCutchen
15-Jan-2019, 23:35
Dave my old friend!

I use a 10 x 12 Canham for a large portion of my Wet Plate work. Love the format. To me it is the sweet spot to holding a plate in your hands and hanging it on the wall. I also use it for pt/Pd work

Hope you are well

Monty

Tim V
15-Jan-2019, 23:52
I reckon 10x12" is a great format. The only reservation I have about it is getting film, as Ilford or Kodak (as far as I'm aware) don't seem to do this size even on custom orders anymore? Adox do though, so that's an option?

andrewch59
16-Jan-2019, 01:38
I reckon 10x12" is a great format. The only reservation I have about it is getting film, as Ilford or Kodak (as far as I'm aware) don't seem to do this size even on custom orders anymore? Adox do though, so that's an option?

There is always the option of xray film? Its cheap, comes in pack of 100 sheets, but a little care is required.

blue4130
16-Jan-2019, 01:55
I also shoot 10x12. Made my own camera and holders and I shoot x-ray with it. Love the format.

karl french
16-Jan-2019, 06:06
10x12 here as well. It's a great format. Started with a 10x12 Deardorff, but now have a 10x12 Chamonix and a Sanderson A Pattern. It's a standard size for the Ilford ULF program and I'm sure Adox would cut it for you.

Mark Crabtree
16-Jan-2019, 09:42
I know this as old plate size, but what are you all doing for gear today? I see some making cameras. Are the others mentioned mostly modified up from 8x10 or down from 11x14, or originally made for the format. And holders?

I would probably have shrugged this off a few months ago, but have been doing whole plate, 8x10, and 11x14 portraits lately and am becoming more sensitive to the interaction with print size in hand. Much as I love the 11x14, the print size seems just a bit big for viewing prints in hand.

I'll be anxious to see what turns up in this thread, but almost wish I could unread the idea. Like I really need another format. Still I hope we'll see some pictures with or of 10x12 :-)

karl french
16-Jan-2019, 11:31
Holders are the real challenge. My 10x12 Deardorff came with Hoffmann holders, so I just standardized on those. I have one S&S and one AWB 10x12 holder, both modified to meet the specs of the Hoffmann holders. I sent one to Chamonix when I ordered the camera. 10x12 stuff occasionally turns up on ebay. Probably more late 19th century / early 20th century plate cameras and book form holders than 10x12 film equipment. But it's out there. Still, the 10x12 Sanderson A Pattern (circa 1904) is the most interesting camera I've owned (and there have been a lot.) But I've never been able to find the proper book form holders for it.

Film is not a problem, if you plan ahead a bit.

Most lenses that cover 8x10 will do the job on 10x12 as well.

My current bigger than 8x10 lens kit for 10x12 (which I use for 7x17/8x20/12x20 as well)

240/9 Graphic Kowa
305/6.8 Goerz Dagor
355/9 Schneider G-Claron
450/9 Nikkor M
600/11.5 Fuji C
30"/12.5 Goerz Artar

karl french
16-Jan-2019, 11:43
10x12 Deardorff with 355 G-Claron.
186461

10x12 Chamonix with a Bristlecone snag in the White Mountains.
186462

10x12 Sanderson A Pattern with smaller 1/2 Plate Sanderson Regular.
186460

Here are some 10x12 images I've posted to Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=26027328%40N00&view_all=1&text=10x12

Tin Can
16-Jan-2019, 16:00
Not a user yet.

I have a 10X12 Deardorff S11 back, but no holder.

I also have a 11X14 plate holder with wood insert to size it to 10X12 plate.

I may shoot 10X12 plate in my adapted 11X14 plate holder as I have an 11X14 back for the S11.

Say that 3 times fast!

Dave Wooten
5-Feb-2019, 12:43
Dave my old friend!

I use a 10 x 12 Canham for a large portion of my Wet Plate work. Love the format. To me it is the sweet spot to holding a plate in your hands and hanging it on the wall. I also use it for pt/Pd work

Hope you are well

Monty

Yo Monty,
I'm looking into the 10x12, am working with 14 x 17 this winter and spring, 10 x 12 seems to be a good "all round" format...Hugo is worth up some custom specs for me.

Tim V
7-Jun-2019, 02:18
If you ever heard back from Chamonix regarding a 10x12” camera and you can share, I’d love to know details / price. I’m actually quite keen on this format and if money come my way via print sales - yeah right! - I might order one with also an 8x10” reducing back. I’m keen to know if they make holders, too.

Lastly, a friend just ordered a custom cut box of true 10x12” film from Adox (chs100ii) and they can cut pretty quickly! Their standard closest sheet size is actually 9.45x12” though. Is this a more usual sizecthese days, or what? I see Adox, Bergger and Ilford all produce paper at this size too, rather than true 10x12.


Yo Monty,
I'm looking into the 10x12, am working with 14 x 17 this winter and spring, 10 x 12 seems to be a good "all round" format...Hugo is worth up some custom specs for me.

Dave Wooten
6-Oct-2019, 19:56
Tim, I've been "off line" for awhile and did not see your post, sorry. Yes Hugo worked up some details for me on camera and some holders. I'll decide on a format addition after my stash of 14x17 is depleted , hopefully this einter-spring- I don't get out much invthe Summer anymore in this Mojave heat? Send a note over to Hugo Zang.
Cheers Dave.

Steven Tribe
7-Oct-2019, 06:22
.............
Lastly, a friend just ordered a custom cut box of true 10x12” film from Adox (chs100ii) and they can cut pretty quickly! Their standard closest sheet size is actually 9.45x12” though. Is this a more usual sizecthese days, or what?".....

9.45x12" sounds like 24x30cm. The availability of cameras which take this European standard equivalent to 10x12" is greater than the corresponding numbers of 10x12". Lots were made made around 1900 and are reasonably priced these days.

carbo73
4-Jun-2022, 16:28
Hi, I've just bought a 10x12 Vageeswari from India, complete with a barrel CZJ Tessar and three double holders... in not the best condition. I think out of 6 plates, I can use 1 straight away without repairs. Just doing first trials with X-Ray film and it works, but only inside as I have no shutter. I'm interested probably in a Packard style shutter. But mostly I'm interested in use it for wet plate collodion, of which I have expererience up to 18x24 cm with a pair of GOMZ FKD cameras.