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alexvaras
24-Oct-2018, 10:30
Hi all,

I found this, included 3 double wooden holders, the lens shown, an universal rapid aplanat n3 (unknown focal length) and that 'small' tripod, the guy asks about USD150+shipping.
I tried to find the lens but so far the nearest is kinda the same but named 'Tokyo'
Any info it will be appreciated.


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Thank you in advance.

Willie
24-Oct-2018, 11:09
You are trying to find information, not you selling it?

alexvaras
24-Oct-2018, 11:51
You are trying to find information, not you selling it?

If I would like to sell it I would post it in a different sub-forum.
I want to get information about the camera and if you think the price is correct or whatever.

If I post it in the wrong place or I'm doing something incorrect please let me know.
Thank you.
Alex

John Layton
24-Oct-2018, 12:12
Hmmm...camera looks like a...Nagaoka? Tachihara? And that tripod looks like a much larger version of my ancient Thalhammer. Not sure about the lens.

Greg Y
24-Oct-2018, 12:36
lens is 21cm = 210

Drew Wiley
24-Oct-2018, 13:31
Neither a Tachi nor Nagaoka. Much older. Attractive as an antique, and that old tripod is fascinating. Hard to say how well it functionally functionally it works from just a web image, and the lens looks so-so at best. Perhaps more valuable as a conversation piece or antique than as a user camera, but that would depends on the specific condition of the hardware,
bellows, gear rack etc.

Oren Grad
24-Oct-2018, 15:27
It could be an old Tachihara, though the same type of camera was made by other companies as well. There could be a nameplate on the back.

These older Japanese cameras tend to use book-form film holders, not the more familiar block-form holders that are used by all modern cameras. So in that respect too, a picture of the back is important.

alexvaras
24-Oct-2018, 22:14
Thanks for the tips, I asked the seller about the back, he wrote:
Manofactory
R. Konishi
Tokyo Osaka
I found already some info, Drew and Oren where close.
https://flic.kr/p/cQPv2q

Steven Tribe
25-Oct-2018, 01:42
A Japanese camera of this age could well be a 1/2 Plate size - rather than a 5x7" !

Oren Grad
25-Oct-2018, 08:04
A Japanese camera of this age could well be a 1/2 Plate size - rather than a 5x7" !

Good point! As you can see, the example that Alex linked on Flickr is kabine (カビネ), or half-plate, size.

Between the holders and the film size, the camera would be more of a hassle to use than a modern 5x7 camera. Not impossible by any means, but much less convenient than a camera with a modern-standard 5x7 back.

alexvaras
25-Oct-2018, 08:27
Well... I will post more photos plus dimensions where the camera arrives, as I was said by the seller it belonged to his father who said it was photographer and I made my decision on this.

alexvaras
6-Nov-2018, 13:12
Here it's the camera, two lenses, tripod and three double film holders.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1904/30813903907_ea89de762b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NWVj6i)R. Konishi field camera. (https://flic.kr/p/NWVj6i)

The lens has four elements, rear two cemented, front ones spaced. Still I need to clean them and fix the light leak from the lens thread at the wooden holder.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4848/45703626842_8bc75a2406.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2cCF2Yf)
Bellows are ok after so many years.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1909/43936104480_35ccb2995f.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/29Wu29L)
The ground glass, its matte side is at the outside, is this ok or should I place it looking inside?
I checked one and it's light tight, lets see other ones. Anyway until I don't shoot I won't know for sure.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1930/45028774864_43737c3daf.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2bB3eZj)
Another surprise for me, it has a glass inside to make the film plane, is this a normal thing?
Dimensions of the film are 12x16.5, half plate as many some said before. Hard to get I think, anyway I will place a 4x5 film in the middle and I make the test, or is it worthless?

A very nice tripod with very nice points to stand still on soil, wooden floors but not ceramic as my house.
Another lens came, Universal Rapid Aplanat Series E No.3, two elements?

So two questions to start with:
1) Glass inside the film holder?
2) Ground glass mate side inside or outside.

The cleaning will come after I fix(glue) the shutter plate guides at the front, some did force and both of them have cracks about to fall apart, so now the camera is opened and shutter holder plus bellows removed to avoid more tension on this part, tomorrow fine day, later cleaning and weekend shooting if I can place a 4x5 sheet inside in my dark bag.

Thank you for watching and please any advice is welcome.
Alex

Steven Tribe
7-Nov-2018, 08:16
Looks clean, neat and lightweight - very traditional. The aplanat series E is quite common - but no-one yet has been abæe to identify the maker!

1/2 plate is a good size and sheet film is available - plus the new dry glass plates have been available for over a year now!
Your book type holders are easy to use for both film and glass plates. The glass plate is a cleaned old 1/4 plate which has been used to hold the "modern" film sheet in the right plane and to engage the pressing spring(s) on the central metal plate.

alexvaras
7-Nov-2018, 08:43
Thank you Steven, you were the first saying it was a half plate.
What do you think about the matte side of the glass? Should it be towards the lens or outwards?
Robert recommended me to shoot the 45 degress ruler to check, any other tip that know this?

Willie
7-Nov-2018, 15:38
Isn't the maker R Konishi, Tokyo and Osaka?

That is what the piece that appears to be the makers label on it says.

Mark Sampson
7-Nov-2018, 17:10
Who may have been the founders of Konishiroku (sp?) which eventually became known as Konica.