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Rain Dance
13-Sep-2018, 09:18
What's your method of scanning using a digital camera and a macro lens? Will be going back to 4x5 and sadly I have sold my v700. Not really looking to buy one due to space issues (already have a v600 and nikon ls-40). Also I don't have a darkroom anymore to print. Scans will only be used for posting on the internet. If I do need prints I can find a drum scanner or even a local darkroom. Is photoshop required? I only have light room. Thank you.

EarlJam
13-Sep-2018, 11:24
For occasional need, you might try scanning in two passes and stitching the images together with Lightroom Panorama mode. I have a Canon 8800, which nominally supports 120 but scans 2.75" wide without the film holder. I've scanned the few 4x5 and 5x7 negatives I inherited with this method and it works reasonably well. Here's an example of a stitched image from 5x7.

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jim10219
13-Sep-2018, 19:35
If scans will only be used for posting on the internet, then just do it in one shot. That should give you more resolution than you need.

I’ve stitched together many negatives, and my advice is to keep it as few as you can get away with. Two usually works fine. Four can be done. Nine almost always gives me issues with PS not lining up the images properly, and doing it by hand is a real nightmare. But in any case, if you don’t need to stitch, don’t. Plus, it allows you to make better use of the raw images because PS will convert the images to a PS compatible files before it stitches them. I don’t think Lightroom will allow you to stitch files, but I’m not certain. I rarely use Lightroom.

As for procedure, I recommend a light table, a good macro lens made for copy work or an adapted enlarging lens, and a negative carrier or scanner film holder. That will serve the purpose of masking out the extra light and holding the negative flat. The copy lens or enlarger lens has the advantage of a flat field of focus. That helps to keep the corners in focus. You can usually find them pretty cheap because they tend to be manual focus lenses from the film era, back when people had a need to copy slides and stuff. Also, do it in a dark room. You don’t want glare from overhead lights on your negative.

It’ll take some time to get your workflow down. Be sure to use the histogram on your DSLR, especially for color film. It’s easy to clip the blue if you're not careful. Try zooming in too close to the negative to meter the shot so your histogram isn’t picking up the mask/negative carrier or any spare parts from the light table. Then zoom back out for your shot.

Peter De Smidt
13-Sep-2018, 19:57
I agree with the suggestion of one photo for internet use. If you eventually need more quality, there are some long threads about this in the DIY section.

Duolab123
13-Sep-2018, 21:31
Make a conventional silver contact print and scan it with any all in one printer scanner.

Rain Dance
15-Sep-2018, 10:07
I like the one photo Idea. I have a macro lens already, so I can use that. I just need a light table, a 4x5 holder (or maybe even just black cardboard mask). I see those tripod attachments that hold the camera perpendicular to the negative but I always forget what its called.

EarlJam
15-Sep-2018, 16:56
I like the one photo Idea. I have a macro lens already, so I can use that. I just need a light table, a 4x5 holder (or maybe even just black cardboard mask). I see those tripod attachments that hold the camera perpendicular to the negative but I always forget what its called.

You're thinking of a side arm. They're not inexpensive but invaluable if you need to shoot flat copy on a regular basis. See https://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-131D-Tripods-heads-Degree/dp/B001FRO1VQ for reference

jim10219
15-Sep-2018, 20:56
You can DIY a light table. I built mine out of a plastic project box, some flat, diffused, translucent material (I cut mine out the side of an old chemical jug), some LED strips, and a small DC power supply. I even lined the box with aluminum foil, adhered with spray glue. I mixed daylight and warm light LED’s for a more even colored light, though a combination of red, green, and blue LED’s would have been even better. Though, you can always adjust the colors in the computer later. You could probably do something like sand plexiglass or use tracing paper to diffuse the light. There are about a million ways to make one. Or you can just buy a small light table. But I wouldn’t use an iPad. The pixels tend to show up in the scan if you don’t have a diffuser, and they’re not imcreadibly bright.

Andrew O'Neill
17-Sep-2018, 08:55
Before I got a dedicated film scanner, I taped frosted mylar to the front room window and shot my LF negatives with a 12mp DSLR with 55mm lens. Six overlapping shots and stitched together. The results were pretty decent...but glad I got a scanner.

Peter De Smidt
17-Sep-2018, 10:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmRHTausFls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXy7RJwIBAo

bieber
17-Sep-2018, 20:41
If you are going to stitch multiple shots together, I'd rig up a copy stand and be sure to move the negative around under the lens rather than tilting/panning the camera, to minimize distortion

Rain Dance
20-Sep-2018, 09:04
Thank you all for the replies, and for the link to the tripod attachment. I think the copy stand idea is what I will go for. Time to hunt for one of those.

1erCru
30-Oct-2018, 18:55
I attach my DSLR to the rear standard of my Sinar and then use clamps and a light table with a negative taped to it attached to the front standard. Scanning is prettt starlight forward from there.