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marcookie
21-Jul-2018, 19:08
Hello,

I recently started a Youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQHvKsTfdM56e0atoIyoasg) to describe my experience of starting with large format landscape photography.

Clearly I know the Ben Horne's channel, which has been of great inspiration for me. Does anybody know other good sources in Youtube or other valuable resources?

Thanks

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jp
21-Jul-2018, 19:53
This makes for a good rabbit trail.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoDCVNQvQhuhp0qettSMkrg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuh15ZtmA4Rim6jjFKrXG4Q
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCjjZ-Qc43dF7xHBC92MAuA
https://www.youtube.com/user/emilschildt/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTj-A2VNbcBmso-vYKsKcyg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcGPU4A6xJ1OYOkvfMoo25w/videos (not lf but still nice landscape)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChqeY3DPTJl41mltSC5C5Ag
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa_DOiO4chl7MB9bkiS4sTw/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHyPdxeP9Ww0y_bMgeP1jxw

peter schrager
21-Jul-2018, 23:27
Hello,

I recently started a Youtube channel to describe my experience of starting with large format landscape photography.

Clearly I know the Ben Horne's channel, which has been of great inspiration for me. Does anybody know other good sources in Youtube or other valuable resources?

Thanks

____
SOCIAL MEDIA
- Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQHvKsTfdM56e0atoIyoasg)
- Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/marcofimages)
You don't learn large format through a video. You learn by hands on experience...Ben Horne videos are for arm chair photographers who never leave home. I could teach you more on 2 days about l.f. than you could learn in 5 years...no one seems to be willing to shell out the cash to learn. But YouTube videos are free..right??

John Kasaian
22-Jul-2018, 15:04
You don't learn large format through a video. You learn by hands on experience...Ben Horne videos are for arm chair photographers who never leave home. I could teach you more on 2 days about l.f. than you could learn in 5 years...no one seems to be willing to shell out the cash to learn. But YouTube videos are free..right??

The more interest generated in LF the more people willing to take the bait and run with it. The more cameras and film bought, the more of a market there will be for cameras and film and the more cameras and film will be manufactured.
That's a good thing!
I can't begrudge anyone finding inspiration from Youtubes even though it isn't hands on.
Finding inspiration should be encouraged, not discouraged.
Then go out and buy yourself a view camera and some film:cool:

LabRat
22-Jul-2018, 17:25
Many things online today seem more like virtual reality rather than experience, but get out and and feel the world around you, than even more filler that is delaying you actual experience...

Steve K

jp
22-Jul-2018, 18:48
This disdain for youtube is muchly archaic. It's like college 30 minutes at a time. Learning is in the midst of being disrupted by technology like online video.

Much can be gained from real life hands on training, but that's not always available. Yeh, if you sit around drinking and watching youtube instead of espn, yeh, that's armchair stuff. If you watch something on youtube and then go do it, and learn something and survive and be inspired, it served it purpose. I learned how to break into my own truck in less than a minute after I was locked out and all alone and gained new respect for the amount of instruction and knowledge online for those that seek it. When it's not for immediate learning, it can be life long learning while I agitate developing film in the darkroom or roast coffee in the garage with a chromebook or phone at my side.

marcookie
22-Jul-2018, 19:31
Thank you all for the discussion and the responses. I think they all nail the point--also the negative/sarcastic comment about the armchair photographers. Youtube is great, but like most technology the misuse is always around the corner. Going out to shoot some large format, and getting your hands on, is on another level.

jp: I've seen you're from Maine. I just visited. What an awesome time I had with such places and such people!

Thalmees
23-Jul-2018, 06:01
Yes, YouTube photographers do not provide a first hand experience. That is true.
But, they are doing favor to other photographers and to the medium by introducing the subject to the public, supporting the existence of film/process and increasing awareness.
Needless to talk about the tourists response to a LF camera and photographer when they find one, which looks similar to their response in a history museum.
Digital imaging photographers showing their virtual PhotoShoping on YouTube, why not photographers show real process?
In this digital era, I think the mission of YouTube photographers is to introduce the Real alternative to the public. Similar to: instead of playing a football game on PlayStation, go out and play a Real football.

bob carnie
23-Jul-2018, 06:46
I have posted darkroom videos which seem to be pretty popular over 60thousand hits, I am constantly getting email updates when someone follows these videos, I find them extremely helpful in spreading the word about what we do in our neck of the woods.

John Kasaian
23-Jul-2018, 07:25
My own journey:
I was familiar with Ansel Adams from our summers in Yosemite in the 1950's and 60's and found inspiration in his photographs, especially those which were possible with the perspective possible through a view camera, but no way could I see myself putting light sensitive film into or out of a film holder in the dark, much less developing sheet film.
Fast forward about 25 years I found myself working in the Directorate of Industrial Ops one summer at Ft Huachuca, AZ which was being subbed out to Pan Am World Services and everything on the Army side of the house needed documenting before being handed over to Pan Am. Since my job basically was to turn out the lights, I accompanied the Army photographer around the base shooting various parts of the installation. I told him how intrigued I was with the big cameras and he replied: "It's not rocket science. If you want to shoot LF read a good book on the subject and go out and play." A decade passed and I came across Richard Simmons Using The View Camera and View Camera magazine and shortly after, I happened on a musty old Speed Graphic at a junk store. The rest is history.
My point being that without the hap hazard meetings with Ansel Adams and that Army photographer, and then discovering View Camera on the shelf at Barns & Noble, I likely would have never been motivated enough to invest in a real live view camera (these things ain't cheap---even at junk stores) and go out and play with it.

I wonder how many members on this great forum showed up here out of curiosity and ended up joining the party? I tend to see Youtube as a step, but only a step, in the right direction since you still have to get out and play with 'em.

Robert Brazile
23-Jul-2018, 10:13
Uh, Richard Simmons? Did he write one, too? :-D

Robert

marcookie
24-Jul-2018, 05:45
It had been great fun reading your stories. I personally got into large format after obtaining an (illegal) copy of "The Art of Photography" by Bruce Barnbaum, and being fascinated by the process and amazed by the possibilities. Short after getting my camera I had to quit because of work issues--some general laziness was also involved, though. At the time I was doing everything in my darkroom in Italy. There is no lab that develops any 4x5 there.
5 years after, I stumbled upon one of Ben Horne's video and I fell for it again. Now I live in the US where there are better-equipped labs, and the hybrid analog-digital process is possible.

I ended up buying an original copy of Barnbaum's book and re-reading it :).

John Kasaian
24-Jul-2018, 12:46
Uh, Richard Simmons? Did he write one, too? :-D

Robert

:o Sorry 'bout that---Steve, not Richard!

Drew Wiley
24-Jul-2018, 16:37
Don't tell me someone was doing calisthentic dancing and prancing in the Dektol !

Jim Noel
25-Jul-2018, 12:53
you don't learn large format through a video. You learn by hands on experience...ben horne videos are for arm chair photographers who never leave home. I could teach you more on 2 days about l.f. Than you could learn in 5 years...no one seems to be willing to shell out the cash to learn. But youtube videos are free..right??

amen!

marcookie
25-Jul-2018, 19:01
I have posted darkroom videos which seem to be pretty popular over 60thousand hits, I am constantly getting email updates when someone follows these videos, I find them extremely helpful in spreading the word about what we do in our neck of the woods.

Can you post a link to the videos? I am interested other people rambling in this thread might be too

John Kasaian
26-Jul-2018, 10:37
You don't learn large format through a video. You learn by hands on experience...Ben Horne videos are for arm chair photographers who never leave home. I could teach you more on 2 days about l.f. than you could learn in 5 years...no one seems to be willing to shell out the cash to learn. But YouTube videos are free..right??


Peter, there is plenty of free instruction out there, but if you want to learn from a professional, you'll have to pay for it.:rolleyes:

marcookie
27-Jul-2018, 14:02
Peter, there is plenty of free instruction out there, but if you want to learn from a professional, you'll have to pay for it.:rolleyes:

Does anyone have first hand experience from a workshop?

I am generally a self-taught, I think it would be strange for me

jp
27-Jul-2018, 14:25
Does anyone have first hand experience from a workshop?

I am generally a self-taught, I think it would be strange for me

I'm mostly self taught using online things, but have participated in workshops... Soft focus lenses, photographing children, ambrotypes.. Tillman Crane and MMW+C.

Workshops are great for:
things hand-on where personal training saves much trial and error. alt process for example.
things with high BS factor and misunderstandings where you need to try things - soft focus workshop.
making personal connections with instructors so that as you follow through with what you learned a support option is available.

jnantz
28-Jul-2018, 06:55
i agree john

the more people interested the better !

i have been watching youtube videos of people watching youtube of people watching youtube videos of people watching youtube videos
of people doing LF photography ...
i haven't left with my camera in ages cause there is too much to see online !

bob carnie
28-Jul-2018, 07:46
Can you post a link to the videos? I am interested other people rambling in this thread might be too
www.alternativephotoservices.com go to the bottom of the page and you will see the Youtube Icon, or go to Youtube.com google my name and my propaganda will come up

marcookie
28-Jul-2018, 12:02
www.alternativephotoservices.com go to the bottom of the page and you will see the Youtube Icon, or go to Youtube.com google my name and my propaganda will come up

Thanks, I found them.

And thanks everybody, this has been by far the most useful forum thread I've ever created. Well at least for me!
I like that this forum doesn't have all that crap of likes/helpfulness etc

marcookie
29-Jul-2018, 17:41
“Where did you get your imagination? If you had to guess what would you say?” -Lynda Barry, Syllabus: Notes From an Accidental Professor

going further with ...

I don't know where I got my imagination, but I know where I get my inspiration. From the work of others.

You know, I am a scientist for work, and every time I discuss something or write about something, I need to give due credit to those who came before me, to the state of the art, to the previous ideas that give sense to my new ideas and are the roots of my new work. This does not seem to be the case in art, where the same thing is called copying?

All right I'm going off topic, gone

Leszek Vogt
29-Jul-2018, 18:11
Ha. Love to say that I have developed my own style. Yes, but that would be bit disingenuous, since I (and many others) tend to stand on the shoulders of others. It might be bits and pieces from magazine work, gallery, museums, friends and myriad of artists out there. Well, it's like, at least in my case, what would I do to make this visual better/different or more interesting ....and actual "copying" doesn't even enter into the equation. Just my two centavos.

Les

smrtysusan
31-Jul-2018, 04:28
This makes for a good rabbit trail.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoDCVNQvQhuhp0qettSMkrg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuh15ZtmA4Rim6jjFKrXG4Q
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCjjZ-Qc43dF7xHBC92MAuA
https://www.youtube.com/user/emilschildt/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTj-A2VNbcBmso-vYKsKcyg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcGPU4A6xJ1OYOkvfMoo25w/videos (not lf but still nice landscape)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChqeY3DPTJl41mltSC5C5Ag
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa_DOiO4chl7MB9bkiS4sTw/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHyPdxeP9Ww0y_bMgeP1jxw

That's some great resource! Thank you :D

Ben Horne
4-Aug-2018, 05:36
You don't learn large format through a video. You learn by hands on experience...Ben Horne videos are for arm chair photographers who never leave home. I could teach you more on 2 days about l.f. than you could learn in 5 years...no one seems to be willing to shell out the cash to learn. But YouTube videos are free..right??


With the videos, my goal is to show the actual experience of getting out there, and finding subjects. They aren't meant as tutorials, which is why I don't get into the technical stuff. I call them video journals as opposed to vlogs because I honestly don't create them as entertainment. I treat them as a written journal where I share my honest thoughts on the experience — the good, the bad, the mediocre. They are something I can look back on at a later date and see where I have come from, much the same as why people keep a written journal. My philosophy is to lead by example and show what is possible, as opposed to simply talking about technical stuff. I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean by the videos being "for arm chair photographers who never leave home" but everyone is entitled to their opinion. :-)

andrewch59
4-Aug-2018, 08:46
I've only been taking LF for a few years, but would be lost without the knowledge learnt from youtube vids. Fred Newman taught me how to use movements, and many others have taught me how to use a light meter and the like. Coming from a small rural town in Australia there aren't any mentors or workshops. To be truthfull there arent that many of us in the state! I would be lost without the knowledge base on you tube. I salute those that take the time to record their misadventures so I might learn

marcookie
5-Aug-2018, 07:06
With the videos, my goal is to show the actual experience of getting out there, and finding subjects. They aren't meant as tutorials, which is why I don't get into the technical stuff. I call them video journals as opposed to vlogs because I honestly don't create them as entertainment. I treat them as a written journal where I share my honest thoughts on the experience — the good, the bad, the mediocre. They are something I can look back on at a later date and see where I have come from, much the same as why people keep a written journal. My philosophy is to lead by example and show what is possible, as opposed to simply talking about technical stuff. I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean by the videos being "for arm chair photographers who never leave home" but everyone is entitled to their opinion. :-)

Well,
I have to say that I learned more from your videos than from any tutorial. Especially the bad, the struggle, and the wait times, as andrewch59 is saying. This is overlooked by many flashy tutorial-videos, but it is much part of the experience.

Heroique
5-Aug-2018, 10:09
With the videos, my goal is to show the actual experience of getting out there, and finding subjects. They aren't meant as tutorials, which is why I don't get into the technical stuff. I call them video journals as opposed to vlogs because I honestly don't create them as entertainment. I treat them as a written journal where I share my honest thoughts on the experience — the good, the bad, the mediocre. They are something I can look back on at a later date and see where I have come from, much the same as why people keep a written journal. My philosophy is to lead by example and show what is possible, as opposed to simply talking about technical stuff. I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean by the videos being "for arm chair photographers who never leave home" but everyone is entitled to their opinion. :-)

100% agreement.

I hope you can occasionally share images here, even if you've featured them elsewhere.

And if you tackled a problem to get the shot, no matter how small, a lot of landscapers here would listen to your experience and find it useful.

germansaram
5-Aug-2018, 13:35
The more interest generated in LF the more people willing to take the bait and run with it. The more cameras and film bought, the more of a market there will be for cameras and film and the more cameras and film will be manufactured.
That's a good thing!
I can't begrudge anyone finding inspiration from Youtubes even though it isn't hands on.
Finding inspiration should be encouraged, not discouraged.
Then go out and buy yourself a view camera and some film:cool:


I absolutely agree with you on that. It's great if more interest is generated. YouTube videos might just be the first step, which could lead to try it hands on.

Jim Becia
5-Aug-2018, 14:44
With the videos, my goal is to show the actual experience of getting out there, and finding subjects. They aren't meant as tutorials, which is why I don't get into the technical stuff. I call them video journals as opposed to vlogs because I honestly don't create them as entertainment. I treat them as a written journal where I share my honest thoughts on the experience — the good, the bad, the mediocre. They are something I can look back on at a later date and see where I have come from, much the same as why people keep a written journal. My philosophy is to lead by example and show what is possible, as opposed to simply talking about technical stuff. I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean by the videos being "for arm chair photographers who never leave home" but everyone is entitled to their opinion. :-)

While in my mind I think I have plenty of experience when it comes to LF photography, I still watch all of Ben's videos. I find them informative, enjoyable, (although Ben mentions that he doesn't create them as entertainment), and well done. If anything, they make me want to get back out and try again. They make me think (that is where the inspiration from his videos, and others comes in to play). I am always trying to capture images that I might find interesting and compelling, and believe me, I am not an armchair photographer by any stretch of the imagination. Inspiration can come from many different venues, YouTube videos are just one of them.

peter schrager
5-Aug-2018, 20:39
While in my mind I think I have plenty of experience when it comes to LF photography, I still watch all of Ben's videos. I find them informative, enjoyable, (although Ben mentions that he doesn't create them as entertainment), and well done. If anything, they make me want to get back out and try again. They make me think (that is where the inspiration from his videos, and others comes in to play). I am always trying to capture images that I might find interesting and compelling, and believe me, I am not an armchair photographer by any stretch of the imagination. Inspiration can come from many different venues, YouTube videos are just one of them.

Which part is the informative part..the doing is the learning...you only learn by doing. I've shot thousands of sheets of film and I'm still going to learn everytime I put the camera on a tripod. This is a country of watchers not doers so the videos play exactly into that mindset.

Jim Becia
6-Aug-2018, 07:55
Which part is the informative part..the doing is the learning...you only learn by doing. I've shot thousands of sheets of film and I'm still going to learn everytime I put the camera on a tripod. This is a country of watchers not doers so the videos play exactly into that mindset.

Peter, if you don’t watch these videos, not sure how you can be so critical of them. I guess you don’t read about anything either as that is not “doing.”

Ben Horne
7-Aug-2018, 09:02
Which part is the informative part..the doing is the learning...you only learn by doing. I've shot thousands of sheets of film and I'm still going to learn everytime I put the camera on a tripod. This is a country of watchers not doers so the videos play exactly into that mindset.

There are lots of different ways to learn. "Doing something" is one way to learn, but so is going to a gallery and looking at some beautiful prints in person. We learn and draw inspiration from everything around us, and use that to further our own creative pursuits. You mention that you learn every time you put the camera on a tripod — but have you ever been inspired by — and learned from other art forms? Perhaps viewing an art exhibit of paintings would inspire you to take a somewhat different approach on your next photo? Maybe it would influence your lighting, or your choice of subject? We absorb information and inspiration from world around us. The more we experience, the more we learn. It seems you have made up your mind that the ONLY way to learn is by doing something, but if you limit yourself to ONLY that, how much can you ever actually learn? I am not trying to teach technique with the videos. Instead, I tell the story of finding subjects, what attracted me to them, and why I setup the compositions that I did. That is the sort of information I love to hear from pother photographers – the thought process behind a particular photo.

bob carnie
7-Aug-2018, 09:24
I like many here grew up on paying for the Zone V1 newsletters , and have had my share of purchasing education. The reason I do the Youtube videos is because I like giving back to my community any knowledge I have learned over the years. I strongly believe there are no techniques or methods that should not be discussed freely, I have always said Sandy King IMO has given more back to us than any one single person, freely discussing at any time and answering any question I have had of him, I use him as a role model.


I have found this investment in time and money to produce these simple videos has paid me back many times over and I really like hearing myself talk.

I charge people to visit and take workshops at my location here in Toronto, but I find the Youtube videos help people understand what they may be into when coming here.

Jim Galli
7-Aug-2018, 09:47
My daughter watched a bunch of you-tube videos on wet plate photography. She bought a bunch of chemicals and came for a visit. I watched the same videos. We gave wet plate a try. Massive fail. Huge fail. So much for video confidence. Wasted time and money. Neither of us has the time or the money for a proper hands on class. So the chems and supplies will be $$$ wasted I think.

John Kasaian
7-Aug-2018, 09:54
Which part is the informative part..the doing is the learning...you only learn by doing. I've shot thousands of sheets of film and I'm still going to learn everytime I put the camera on a tripod. This is a country of watchers not doers so the videos play exactly into that mindset.
Not necessarily.
Everyone is different when it comes to learning.
Some learn by doing, others by reading, others learn by writing or drawing. yet others learn by listening or observing, or other stimuli.
Of course, the only way you're going to make photos is by doing.

John Kasaian
7-Aug-2018, 09:59
My daughter watched a bunch of you-tube videos on wet plate photography. She bought a bunch of chemicals and came for a visit. I watched the same videos. We gave wet plate a try. Massive fail. Huge fail. So much for video confidence. Wasted time and money. Neither of us has the time or the money for a proper hands on class. So the chems and supplies will be $$$ wasted I think.

You tube doesn't require the people who make instructional videos to actually know what the are doing. I've seen people ruin good cars because of bad You tube car repair videos.

Marky
7-Aug-2018, 10:34
My daughter watched a bunch of you-tube videos on wet plate photography. She bought a bunch of chemicals and came for a visit. I watched the same videos. We gave wet plate a try. Massive fail. Huge fail. So much for video confidence. Wasted time and money. Neither of us has the time or the money for a proper hands on class. So the chems and supplies will be $$$ wasted I think.

Jim, do you remember what those videos are, so we can avoid them?

peter schrager
7-Aug-2018, 14:02
Peter, if you don’t watch these videos, not sure how you can be so critical of them. I guess you don’t read about anything either as that is not “doing.”
Jim obviously I've sat through a few of the videos or I would have never made the comments. I'm certainly happy that Mr. Horn is doing what makes him happy. People like entertainment and I guess this is one form of that. it's a big world and my opinions are strictly mine and not meant to demeanor or reduce someone else's efforts.
have a great everyone!!
Peter

peter schrager
7-Aug-2018, 14:05
There are lots of different ways to learn. "Doing something" is one way to learn, but so is going to a gallery and looking at some beautiful prints in person. We learn and draw inspiration from everything around us, and use that to further our own creative pursuits. You mention that you learn every time you put the camera on a tripod — but have you ever been inspired by — and learned from other art forms? Perhaps viewing an art exhibit of paintings would inspire you to take a somewhat different approach on your next photo? Maybe it would influence your lighting, or your choice of subject? We absorb information and inspiration from world around us. The more we experience, the more we learn. It seems you have made up your mind that the ONLY way to learn is by doing something, but if you limit yourself to ONLY that, how much can you ever actually learn? I am not trying to teach technique with the videos. Instead, I tell the story of finding subjects, what attracted me to them, and why I setup the compositions that I did. That is the sort of information I love to hear from pother photographers – the thought process behind a particular photo.
take a workshop with Michael Smith and Paula Chamlee and your viewfinder will grow exponentially....

fj55mike
7-Aug-2018, 15:07
There are lots of different ways to learn. "Doing something" is one way to learn, but so is going to a gallery and looking at some beautiful prints in person. We learn and draw inspiration from everything around us, and use that to further our own creative pursuits. You mention that you learn every time you put the camera on a tripod — but have you ever been inspired by — and learned from other art forms? Perhaps viewing an art exhibit of paintings would inspire you to take a somewhat different approach on your next photo? Maybe it would influence your lighting, or your choice of subject? We absorb information and inspiration from world around us. The more we experience, the more we learn. It seems you have made up your mind that the ONLY way to learn is by doing something, but if you limit yourself to ONLY that, how much can you ever actually learn? I am not trying to teach technique with the videos. Instead, I tell the story of finding subjects, what attracted me to them, and why I setup the compositions that I did. That is the sort of information I love to hear from pother photographers – the thought process behind a particular photo.

Classy response to the haters, Ben.

I for one like to draw inspiration from YouTube videos. I have taught myself LF photography by watching videos, reading books, and reading forums, and then applying that knowledge in the field. Does that make me a "watcher" instead of a "doer"? I see tons of young photographers on the interwebs and locally using medium and large format equipment, and I can't help but think that the availability of high quality inspiration from YouTube and Instagram (like Bob's and Ben's videos) are helping to attract more people to the hobby thus helping Kodak and Ilford sell more film.

Would you be better served by going out and shooting than staying home and watching videos? Absolutely, but during my down time I'm glad that such resources exist to help stoke the fire.

Ben Horne
7-Aug-2018, 16:47
Well,
I have to say that I learned more from your videos than from any tutorial. Especially the bad, the struggle, and the wait times, as andrewch59 is saying. This is overlooked by many flashy tutorial-videos, but it is much part of the experience.

Thanks Marco! That is cool to hear that they had an impact. I just subscribed to your channel, and I look forward to checking out your videos when I'm done with work.

Ben Horne
7-Aug-2018, 16:49
While in my mind I think I have plenty of experience when it comes to LF photography, I still watch all of Ben's videos. I find them informative, enjoyable, (although Ben mentions that he doesn't create them as entertainment), and well done. If anything, they make me want to get back out and try again. They make me think (that is where the inspiration from his videos, and others comes in to play). I am always trying to capture images that I might find interesting and compelling, and believe me, I am not an armchair photographer by any stretch of the imagination. Inspiration can come from many different venues, YouTube videos are just one of them.

Thanks Jim! Hopefully our paths will cross again this fall. :-)

Ben Horne
7-Aug-2018, 17:37
take a workshop with Michael Smith and Paula Chamlee and your viewfinder will grow exponentially....


They have some beautiful work, though I definitely prefer to work with color for the type of subjects I enjoy shooting. Do you have any of your work posted Peter? I would love to check it out.

marcookie
7-Aug-2018, 20:27
Classy response to the haters, Ben.

I for one like to draw inspiration from YouTube videos. I have taught myself LF photography by watching videos, reading books, and reading forums, and then applying that knowledge in the field. Does that make me a "watcher" instead of a "doer"? I see tons of young photographers on the interwebs and locally using medium and large format equipment, and I can't help but think that the availability of high quality inspiration from YouTube and Instagram (like Bob's and Ben's videos) are helping to attract more people to the hobby thus helping Kodak and Ilford sell more film.

Would you be better served by going out and shooting than staying home and watching videos? Absolutely, but during my down time I'm glad that such resources exist to help stoke the fire.

100% Agree.
It's the era of the information and we should be lucky that we don't have to dig too much for it, but we mostly need to filter a lot of it. Still not an easy task. Sometimes it's a good youtube channel, sometime it's a book.
And the end if you keep learning it means that you are still improving.
Let's see how it goes in the next trip.

marcookie
7-Aug-2018, 20:30
soth via G /55min
https://youtu.be/d-IWm_utIyU

Hido via GEH
6min
https://youtu.be/xaFQSmmwGWY

Thanks for the links!

marcookie
7-Aug-2018, 20:34
There are lots of different ways to learn. "Doing something" is one way to learn, but so is going to a gallery and looking at some beautiful prints in person. We learn and draw inspiration from everything around us, and use that to further our own creative pursuits. You mention that you learn every time you put the camera on a tripod — but have you ever been inspired by — and learned from other art forms? Perhaps viewing an art exhibit of paintings would inspire you to take a somewhat different approach on your next photo? Maybe it would influence your lighting, or your choice of subject? We absorb information and inspiration from world around us. The more we experience, the more we learn. It seems you have made up your mind that the ONLY way to learn is by doing something, but if you limit yourself to ONLY that, how much can you ever actually learn? I am not trying to teach technique with the videos. Instead, I tell the story of finding subjects, what attracted me to them, and why I setup the compositions that I did. That is the sort of information I love to hear from pother photographers – the thought process behind a particular photo.

Thanks for sharing, super interesting. Growing up close to Venice (Italy), I grew up between museums and paintings, and no photography. Who knows, maybe this will show up in some images eventually.

K. Praslowicz
9-Aug-2018, 13:51
No new inspiration links for you, but I did subscribe to your channel!

marcookie
11-Aug-2018, 14:25
No new inspiration links for you, but I did subscribe to your channel!

And I did subscribe to yours!
--Man you're funny, this is the second comment that you send me that makes me laugh!