Strange negatives

[Steven Ruttenberg]

So, i took 6 frames last week, slides, color neg and 2 bw. For the bw and color neg, a friend and f mine held a filter in front during exposure. The color neg and slide came out just fi e however, the black and white came out 2/3 unexposed. The line between exposed and unexposed is fuzzy so the dark slides were not left part way in couldn't have been my friends hand as other two frakes he held filter for are fine and the slides are fine. Same lens same image. All I can think of is the lab screwed up.

Thoughts?

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[koraks]

That's not underexposure, but very massive overexposure. Looks like a problem with a massive lightleak in the camera (or the holder not seated in the back properly), or a serious problem with loading or unloading the film.

[JeRuFo]

Probably during removing or inserting the dark slide, since half of the frame was protected ?

[consummate_fritterer]

The rebate seems to be exposed just as much as the image area. I don't think the fogging occurred inside the camera, not even while the film was loaded in the holders. I think it happen sometime before it was loaded in the holders, or after it was removed. If it happened while the film was loaded in the holders there should be at least some difference in exposure somewhere on the rebate.

[Steven Ruttenberg]

Not camera 4 frames were taken before that all fine. I am not sure how it could have happened. They are toyo holders no problems before, dark slide went in and out no problem holxers were inserted property and everything done in a film bag. So I am baffled how this happened unless it happened in shipping. That or I don't remember doing something I shouldn't have prior to taking picture which is possible. Never had a problem with holders before. Camera is new chamonix 45H-1.

[Steven Ruttenberg]

The rebate is exposed just as much as the image area. This fogging didn't occur inside the camera, not even while the film was loaded in the holders. It happen sometime before it was loaded in the holders, or after it was removed.

I am pretty sure it wasn't on my end. I did everything in a film bag. Same bag I used for other film from trip to ooad and unload. I am guessing they screwed up at proceszo. I nust don't remember xoing any before or after.

Wil find out if I did as I took two more frames ydzterday so will see ic its me that ruined film.

[Gary Beasley]

If you look in the upper right corner you will see where the edge of the film was overlaid by another when lightstruck. My opinion is that happened not in the camera either prior to or after exposure. Somebody screwed up.

[consummate_fritterer]

If you look in the upper right corner you will see where the edge of the film was overlaid by another when lightstruck. My opinion is that happened not in the camera either prior to or after exposure. Somebody screwed up.

That's a reasonable assumption.

[Light Guru]

Take another sheet of that b&w film that you have not exposed and develop it. If it comes out with the same issue you will know that box of film has been compromised.


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[Steven Ruttenberg]

I am getting two more sheets developed this week. That explains why they put yellow stickies on each mailer with black film bag staing two sheets of film per bag. They never did that before. Especially since my labels for each mailer clearly showed two sheets per mailer. They screwed up and didn't bother to own up to it. Will find out for sure this week. Also prior sheets of this lot were fine.

[Light Guru]

I recommend processing your own film. It’s easy and much cheaper. And yes develop color film is just as easy as developing b&w.


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[Steven Ruttenberg]

I want to do that nut really don't know whete to stary. Color and black and white.

[koraks]

Darken a room, get a few trays and buy some chemicals. It's really not hard. There are countless websites and posts about which chemicals you can buy. For b&w, the choice of developers is huge, but virtually any developer will give presentable results. The same is true for any c41 kit out there. C41 in trays I would not recommend (although doubtlessly it can be done); get a processing drum and a roller base, or look for a second hand jobo processor. The investment will pay for itself in no time given the rates of lab development for sheet film.

[jamesaz]

We're these two sheets in the same holder? Was the holder in sunshine while partially covered?

[Steven Ruttenberg]

We're these two sheets in the same holder? Was the holder in sunshine while partially covered?

Same dark bag Purchased from freestyle photo. Loaded in same changing bag as other film sent to lab at same time. Used the dark bag from freestyle for each pair. 4 sheets came back fine the two bw came back all jacked up. I definitely know it was not on my end.

[consummate_fritterer]

This is pure speculation: At some point, the box containing the exposed film may have been dropped, spilling the film out of the box and into the light. It would be interesting to know if other customers of that processing facility experienced similar problems, in the event that someone was carrying a large stack of boxes and fumbled them.

[Steven Ruttenberg]

The filmbwas inside a dark film bag big enough for 5x7 film. Even if they took bag oit of box film would be ok. You would have to intentionally open bag outside of a dark room/film bag to screw up film. I have had another set of bw messed up with dirty chemicals leaving spots all over film. I am gonna start doing my own film as soon as I can.

[Robert Opheim]

It looks like a light leak while the film is in the film holder. Possible the holder was not seated in the camera properly, or if the sun was directly behind the slide opening and the slide was fully pulled out. I often cover the slide opening in bright daylight to avoid exposure from the slide opening. Some say that you should not pull the slide out all of the way and reverse from the white side to the black indicator on the slide.

[consummate_fritterer]

The filmbwas inside a dark film bag big enough for 5x7 film. Even if they took bag oit of box film would be ok. You would have to intentionally open bag outside of a dark room/film bag to screw up film. I have had another set of bw messed up with dirty chemicals leaving spots all over film. I am gonna start doing my own film as soon as I can.

I seriously doubt the lab opted to carry your film into their darkroom while it was still in the changing bag. I'm willing to bet the boxes were removed from the bag and subsequently accidentally dropped in a lit room.

[Steven Ruttenberg]

How would they have gotten light on them still in the bag? The film was inside the bag inside a film mailer Unless the post office opened up for some stupid reason I don't seebhow unless the tech just had a brain fart.