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karl french
4-Jan-2018, 15:13
Is anyone keeping a database of Cooke Portrait Anastigmat (i.e. with soft focus adjustment) lens serial numbers? I just picked up a 12.75" IIB and thought it would be interesting to start compiling serial numbers for Series I, II, & VI. Just in the last week I've been able to gather over 100 lenses worth of data and start to see some year/serial number connection.

Does anyone know when the transition from non-knuckler to knuckler started in terms of serial numbers? (1924 in terms of date, I know) I'm guessing somewhere around 115,XXX.
I'm also trying to establish the earliest serial number for each series since there is a fairly good sense of what year each series started.

I have a copy of the Lens Collectors Vade Mecum and I've checked various soft focus lens resources online (i.e. antiquecameras.net.) I'm putting together a Google sheet so that folks can add their lens series and serial numbers to the database if they like.

Steven Tribe
4-Jan-2018, 16:10
I am not certain that there was an abrupt change from barrel to knuckler versions. There must have been a market for the significantly lighter early versions. There were a quite a large number of totally french language engraved Cookes sold through the Paris agent.

karl french
4-Jan-2018, 16:27
Yes, mine has the French engraving. I feel like I've seen at least one with German engraving as well.

114165 is a non-knuckler II/14.5"
116354 is a knuckler II/10.5"

Tin Can
4-Jan-2018, 17:25
No French on either

125439 Series II 10-1/2 inch f4.5 Knuckle
56973 Series II 14-1/2 inch f4.5 No Knuckle

I am interested in dates and the file.

Thanks!

karl french
4-Jan-2018, 17:32
Excellent. Thank you. Neither of those were on my list.

Jim Fitzgerald
4-Jan-2018, 18:46
My 15" Series II F4.5 Knuckler which is for sale has a serial number of 119743.

karl french
4-Jan-2018, 18:48
Thanks Jim. I added that to the list the yesterday when I saw your for sale post. Seems like Cooke might have abandoned the 14.5" focal length in favor of the 15" when they switched to the knuckler for soft focus adjustment.

Jim Galli
4-Jan-2018, 20:17
Mine run the gamut and perhaps span 60+ years. I have No. 3262 13" Series II, with rear thread spacing, 125357 is a 15 1/2" Series VI, #186545 is my latest and may be on your list having just exited Ebay recently, it is 13" Series VI, and last and newest is Series IIE 503942 12 3/4" factory single coated and I believe from about 1957. All are spectacular, but you did not need me to tell you that. So I'll claim oldest and newest until someone bumps me.

Oops. Forgot the big 18" Series VI upstairs. I'll get that number shortly. Pretty bad when you forget how many Cooke's you have.

karl french
4-Jan-2018, 20:38
Jim G, Lol. What a terrible problem to have. Yes, IIE 503942 is definitely the highest number on my list. Nice to have markers on both ends of the spectrum

jaytral
4-Jan-2018, 23:31
19343 Serie II 13in 8x10 f4.5 with rear thread spacing
26448 Serie VI 13.1in 8x10 f5.6

Steven Tribe
5-Jan-2018, 03:14
382815 IIE post WWII coated 270mm.
24809 VI 13.1". "New York". "Revolve for Soft Focus" . Round knob iris and SF control.
NO SERIAL NUMBER (sorry)."New York". No softness scale. F4.5 Series II. 10.4.

karl french
5-Jan-2018, 08:27
Thanks. I didn't have one of these Series VI/13" on my list.

Amedeus
5-Jan-2018, 11:10
24768 for a Series VI, 18.4" f5.6 non-knuckler, has two ball shaped handles to adjust aperture and SF ring.

I have 4 more that I need to pull out of storage ... still in moving mode ...

Cheers,

Leonard Robertson
5-Jan-2018, 11:36
From the front ring of my 13" knuckler: "Taylor-Hobson Cooke Portrait Anastigmat 13inch SeriesVI f5.6 No156800".

Any idea of the approximate year of manufacture?

Len

karl french
5-Jan-2018, 11:43
Ah, great. Didn't have that VI/13" knuckler. As for year, I'd guess around 1926-27. The IIB started in 1926 and the earliest IIB I have on the list so far is 155640. Quite close to your VI/13".

Mark Sawyer
5-Jan-2018, 14:10
Mine run the gamut and perhaps span 60+ years. I have No. 3262 13" Series II, with rear thread spacing, 125357 is a 15 1/2" Series VI, #186545 is my latest and may be on your list having just exited Ebay recently, it is 13" Series VI, and last and newest is Series IIE 503942 12 3/4" factory single coated and I believe from about 1957. All are spectacular, but you did not need me to tell you that. So I'll claim oldest and newest until someone bumps me.

Oops. Forgot the big 18" Series VI upstairs. I'll get that number shortly. Pretty bad when you forget how many Cooke's you have.

Jim, I must say I'm really disappointed in you! You're hoarding FIVE of these fine lenses, when so many others want them? One is fine, two is acceptable, three or four is getting greedy, but five is just being decadent. You should be ashamed of yourself!

Anyways, here are mine:

13-inch Series II f/4.5 Pre-Knuckler, 54639
14.5-inch Series II f/4.5 Pre-Knuckler, 90752
16-inch Series II f/4.5 Pre-Knuckler, 31266 (coated & finished in black by Burke & James)
10.5-inch Series II f/4.5 Knuckler, 122514
12.5-inch Series IIA f/3.5 Knuckler, 195357
15.5-inch Series VIA f/5.6 Knuckler, 232440

:rolleyes:

Jim Galli
5-Jan-2018, 14:15
Jim, I must say I'm really disappointed in you! You're hoarding FIVE of these fine lenses, when so many others want them? One is fine, two is acceptable, three or four is getting greedy, but five is just being decadent. You should be ashamed of yourself!

Anyways, here are mine:

13-inch Series II f/4.5 Pre-Knuckler, 54639
14.5-inch Series II f/4.5 Pre-Knuckler, 90752
16-inch Series II f/4.5 Pre-Knuckler, 31266 (coated & finished in black by Burke & James)
10.5-inch Series II f/4.5 Knuckler, 122514
12.5-inch Series IIA f/3.5 Knuckler, 195357
15.5-inch Series VIA f/5.6 Knuckler, 232440

:rolleyes:

I'm so ashamed. Anyways, my 18" Series VI knuckler is no. 202020. Better late than never.

Mark Sawyer
5-Jan-2018, 14:45
I'm so ashamed...

Oh, I'm sure! :)

BTW, for comparison purposes, my 18-inch Cooke Achromatic Portrait Lens (a descendant of the Cooke RV/RVP) is no. 17324.

Jim Galli
5-Jan-2018, 15:07
Oh, I'm sure! :)

BTW, for comparison purposes, my 18-inch Cooke Achromatic Portrait Lens (a descendant of the Cooke RV/RVP) is no. 17324.

Now you're just braggin'. Nobody asked about Achromatic Portrait lenses (which I have zero :( )

gtoffoli
5-Jan-2018, 15:27
In the next days I can tell you mine serie II and VI.


Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk

karl french
5-Jan-2018, 15:39
I am interested in context. Lol. (I've been following some other random Cooke lenses that are around these numbers, just to see if I can get a sense of production lots and dates of known series. We know that Series XIV & XV Convertible were introduced in 1933-34. I added the serial numbers of my 13" & 16.5 Series XIV on a sidebar.)

Mark, thanks for those numbers. I suspect Series I and Series VIA will be the most uncommon. 282483 is also a 15.5 VIA, so I suspect they must have been making them in small lots.
Jim, is that 18" VI knuckler black? I had that on the list,just want to confirm the black paint.

I'm tracking non-English engraving, black paint and B&J lenses as part of the database.

Jim Galli
5-Jan-2018, 15:48
Jim, is that 18" VI knuckler black? I had that on the list,just want to confirm the black paint.

I'm tracking non-English engraving, black paint and B&J lenses as part of the database.

Yes, it is black and bears the Burke and James sticker and also is coated most assumably, by them.
http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/CookeOptics/18Cookeiv_0.jpg

karl french
5-Jan-2018, 16:07
Thanks. As much as I love the lacquered brass, a clean black paint example like this is pretty.

Not that far from Tri Tran's monster IID 27". Both probably from 1931.

Mark Sawyer
5-Jan-2018, 16:08
Now you're just braggin'...

Yes, I am! :o

ghostcount
5-Jan-2018, 16:43
Yes, it is black and bears the Burke and James sticker and also is coated most assumably, by them.
http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com/CookeOptics/18Cookeiv_0.jpg

Giggity, giggity, goo!

Emil Schildt
7-Jan-2018, 04:04
I have two:

14 1/2 " Series II (soft focus stuck)

serial 82518

12" Series IIa 3.5 pre knuckler

serial: 50142

karl french
7-Jan-2018, 08:57
Great. I didn't have the 14.5" Series II on my list. Thanks.

Len Middleton
7-Jan-2018, 09:18
Jim, I must say I'm really disappointed in you! You're hoarding FIVE of these fine lenses, when so many others want them? One is fine, two is acceptable, three or four is getting greedy, but five is just being decadent. You should be ashamed of yourself!

Anyways, here are mine:

13-inch Series II f/4.5 Pre-Knuckler, 54639
14.5-inch Series II f/4.5 Pre-Knuckler, 90752
16-inch Series II f/4.5 Pre-Knuckler, 31266 (coated & finished in black by Burke & James)
10.5-inch Series II f/4.5 Knuckler, 122514
12.5-inch Series IIA f/3.5 Knuckler, 195357
15.5-inch Series VIA f/5.6 Knuckler, 232440

:rolleyes:

Mark,
It looks like you shamed Jim enough that he is thinning his Cooke herd...

Karl,
You can add my " Cooke Portrait Anastigmat No. 309252 12 3/4" 325mm Series IIE f/4.5" Knuckler to your database.

karl french
7-Jan-2018, 13:52
Excellent. Thanks.

William Whitaker
7-Jan-2018, 17:39
Karl,
My IIA is a non-knuckler marked 270mm. The only numerical notation is "N 46341" which I assume is a serial number as there are no other markings which look anything like a serial number. All other notations are in French except the front fascia.

Another much smaller lens is marked 8 INCH SERIES II COOKE ANASTIGMAT LENS 5X7 inches N 28663. This lens has no diffusion control and is physically much smaller than the IIA or another Cooke Portrait I once had (which, I think, was a IIB). This one is about 3 inches, end-to-end.
173442
Series II 8-inch f/4.5

173502 173503
Series IIa f/3.5

That's it for Series II lenses. But it's interesting to note that I have 3 other Cooke lenses: a Series XIV, a Series XV (the old one, not the redux) and an Aviar. Those three ALL came to me from Jim Galli at one time or another. It's quite possible that Jim has forgotten about more Cookes than the rest of us have owned!
LOL! :D

Tin Can
7-Jan-2018, 17:53
Nice Will,

I wish we all presented pics of the lens on the forum and not embeds. Im guilty of embeds now. :(

karl french
7-Jan-2018, 18:22
Will, thanks for those. That's the earliest 10.5" IIA I have on the list. Most of the early IIA lenses are 12" so far.

Jim Galli
8-Jan-2018, 23:20
Karl, when do we get to see your work?

thegreatcornholio
9-Jan-2018, 00:25
Mine is a IIE 15" f4.5 Knuckler S/N 221188

karl french
9-Jan-2018, 07:49
Here is a link to the Google sheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Zan_PR-3rcPkejlblOhAjLPdZQ_saO3HLEG2a-dmsKc/edit?usp=sharing

I'm curious as to the earliest IIE serial number. Tri's (former?) 27" IID f4.5 falls before what I would have expected for the start of IIE & IID.

It's a small start and definitely a work in progress.

Thanks for all your serial/series numbers.

fabphoto73
9-Jan-2018, 08:42
Mine is a IIE 12.75" f4.5 Knuckler S/N 219569

Steven Tribe
9-Jan-2018, 15:38
The spreadsheet includes the IIC model, which was called the "home portraiture" lens. This did not have the soft adjustment through movement of the central lens. All versions after a specific serial number (I think the approx no. is in Lens VM) are coated. Apart from B & J's conversions, there are other earlier serial numbers which were coated post WW2 by their loving owners!

karl french
9-Jan-2018, 17:10
Yes, the IIC is an odd bird. I suspect there are not that many out there. Why would anyone buy a IIC rather than an Aviar in the same focal length? The 13.5" Aviar was a more expensive and the 15" focal length was not available as a series II. I included it in spite of no diffusion control based on the fact that Cooke called it a "Portrait Anastigmat" and it was marketed along side the IIB.

Yes, I suspect all post-war examples are coated.

Amedeus
9-Jan-2018, 17:44
Adding two more of mine to the list

Series VI, 13", f5.6, knuckler, #202,102

Series VI, 13", f5.6, no-knuckler, #107,598

Two more Cooke Portrait lenses in storage somewhere ...

Also interesting to see that the two Series VI, 18.4" f5.6 are only two numbers apart ... 24768 and 24770 ... possibly only one small series ?

Cheers,

russyoung
10-Jan-2018, 14:38
Series II 13" #110957

Series IIb 10.5" #210835

Series VI 13" #36788

Series VI 16" #56763

Series VI 16" #56764

Have two others in a queue at a machinist's, will report on them when they are eventually returned.

cheerio,

Russ Young

Jim Galli
10-Jan-2018, 14:45
Series II 13" #110957

Series IIb 10.5" #210835

Series VI 13" #36788

Series VI 16" #56763

Series VI 16" #56764

Have two others in a queue at a machinist's, will report on them when they are eventually returned.

cheerio,

Russ Young

Which begs the question Russ, how did you end up with 2 consecutive serial numbers? 8X10 stereo camera? I have 2 Series XV that are 2 numbers apart, and Will Whitaker has the one in the middle. Still, it seems like it would be a rarity unless they were sold to same person same day, which my 2 XV's definitely were not.

karl french
10-Jan-2018, 16:20
Russ, thank you for those numbers. All new to the list.

russyoung
11-Jan-2018, 05:31
Which begs the question Russ, how did you end up with 2 consecutive serial numbers? 8X10 stereo camera? I have 2 Series XV that are 2 numbers apart, and Will Whitaker has the one in the middle. Still, it seems like it would be a rarity unless they were sold to same person same day, which my 2 XV's definitely were not.

Jim, they were acquired about 25 years apart. Even a blind hog finds an acorn once in a while.

William Whitaker
11-Jan-2018, 07:40
...I have 2 Series XV that are 2 numbers apart, and Will Whitaker has the one in the middle.


Just glad to be at the party! :)

coisasdavida
12-Jan-2018, 02:20
Cooke Series II 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 inches - eq. focus 10.4in (non-knuckler, soft focus in the front)
marked "J.C.Ramsey and Co. Toronto / Sole consignee in Canada"
Serial Number: 26926, researched it to be probably from 1915/1916

karl french
12-Jan-2018, 08:11
Thanks for that number. I would guess it's even earlier than 1915, maybe 1910/1911.

gtoffoli
12-Jan-2018, 14:59
My Series II, 13" (330 m/m) , no-knuckler, #29908 Soft Focus with engrave:" Sole consignees for Italy Lamperti & Garbagnati "

gtoffoli
12-Jan-2018, 15:02
My Series II, 8" f/4,5 Cooke Anastigmat lens #56339 No soft focus

gtoffoli
12-Jan-2018, 15:05
My Series VI, 13" f/5,6 knuckler, #203025

ScottPhotoCo
15-Jan-2018, 17:58
Two for you:

Cooke Portrait Lens 13"
Series VI f 5.6 Soft Focus (non-knuckler)
Taylor, Taylor & Hobson
Leicester, London & New York
#21621


Cooke Portrait Lens 10.5"
Series II f 4.5 Soft Focus (non-knuckler)
Taylor, Taylor & Hobson
Leicester & London
#103690

karl french
16-Jan-2018, 09:28
Excellent. Thanks for those numbers.

Hugo Zhang
24-Jan-2018, 20:48
Here are few I have:

Cooke Anastigmat lens Series IIA 190mm f/3.5 No. 216642
10 1/2 inch Cooke Portrait lens f/3.5 Series IIA No. 106447
Cooke Portrait Anastigmat 15 inch Series IIB f/4.5 No. 200543

I also have a 165mm f/2.5 lens which sits on a Graflex model c 3x4 camera

DG 3313
24-Jan-2018, 21:40
Mine is a TTH Series II, 6" F-4.5 #36883

brandon13
27-Jan-2018, 09:20
15 inch 4.5 Series IIB Knuckler No. 172270
18 inch 5.6 Series VI Soft focus 15x12" No. 24770

Amedeus
27-Jan-2018, 10:28
Brandon,

Is your 18" labeled 18.4" by any chance ?

Thanks !


15 inch 4.5 Series IIB Knuckler No. 172270
18 inch 5.6 Series VI Soft focus 15x12" No. 24770

karl french
27-Jan-2018, 17:06
Thanks for those numbers. I did have that 18" series VI. Marked 18.4 on my list.

brandon13
28-Jan-2018, 13:52
I guess Karl answered that for you Rudi.
Brandon,

Is your 18" labeled 18.4" by any chance ?

Thanks !

thomas ciulei
9-Feb-2018, 01:58
II E, no 217178 15 inch 380mm knuckler with french engraving "flou artistique"

karl french
9-Feb-2018, 07:46
Great. Didn't have that one. Thanks.

Mark Sawyer
9-Feb-2018, 09:02
241743, a 12 3/4-inch f/4.5 knuckler.

karl french
9-Feb-2018, 09:53
Great. That's a IIE, correct?

mainstreetprod
9-Feb-2018, 17:34
I'm new to the forum, here because I'm researching a Graflex "Century Master Studio" camera (with stand by the same name) I bought today at an estate sale. I believe it was made around 1900. I'm more into motion pictures so not too familiar with still cameras of this era.

The shutter is an Ilexpo by Ilex optical. The lens is a brass "Taylor Hobson Cooke" Portrait Anastigmat, Series VI, F 5.6 "knuckler", serial number 126951, very good condition. The focal length is 22 inch. That's not a misprint- I'm unable to find (so far) any evidence this focal length was ever made. Can anyone shed some light on this lens and it's value?
174545

Jim Galli
9-Feb-2018, 17:58
Beautiful things in your home. That's a wonderful camera and find. Cooke made some extension lenses, so you may have the extension lens front end on what began as a 18" f4.5 someone else may have catalogs and know more about it than I do. Most of the extension lenses were for Series III and Series V. What back does it have on it? Are you going to use it? Are you near me so I can come and talk you out of it:~'))

mainstreetprod
9-Feb-2018, 18:42
Jim,

The camera will be strictly for display. I think it may have been displayed for years in a Nashville commercial building that was demolished recently, according to the seller. I wouldn't be surprised if before that it was used by a downtown Nashville photographer in the early 1900's. If the lens has a value on the higher end, such as I've seen on some of the 15" and 18" soft focus lenses, I may sell it and replace with something that just looks the part.

Fred

karl french
9-Feb-2018, 18:48
Wow! Interesting. Does it actually say "22 inch" on the front of the lens? It seems Cooke was willing to take on custom orders. For example the 27" Series IID made in 1931.

mainstreetprod
9-Feb-2018, 19:00
Yes, it actually says 22 inch. Does that mean it is definitely a custom order? Also, does the fact that it is a 'knuckler" mean it is post 1924?174549

karl french
9-Feb-2018, 20:23
The lens Vademecum does mention a 22" Portrait Anastigmat Series VI introduced in 1926, but I don't have a reference in the Cooke catalogs I have access to. 1926 sounds about right in terms of serial number. This is a rare lens. Even the 18" Series VI lenses are fairly uncommon.

lucaas
10-Feb-2018, 05:46
Hi Karl,

This is a page from Cooke 1926 catalog. It did mention 22" Series VI and it was made to order only.
174567

karl french
10-Feb-2018, 07:53
Interesting indeed. And a 20" Series IIB listed. Haven't seen one of those yet. This also makes me think the IIB starts earlier in terms of serial numbers than I thought. So far the earliest IIB I have is in the 155,XXX range. The above mentioned 22" VI being in the 126,XXX range makes for the possibility of many IIB lenses between those two. Though the big 27" IID has a serial number earlier than I would have expected for 1931.

lucaas
10-Feb-2018, 16:57
I have a 15" IIb with knuckler which serial number is 139736.
Other Cooke portrait lenses I have
26119 13.1" series II with turn the barrel soft focus
159898 12 3/4" IIb with the knuckler
168273 12 3/4" IIc without soft focus

karl french
10-Feb-2018, 18:41
Great. Didn't have any of those on my list. And that is currently the earliest IIB I have. Nice to see that both 159898 & 159899 are still in existence.

michael_los_angeles_photo
11-Feb-2018, 15:20
I have a pre-knuckler 16” f/4.5 Series II, which as I’m scrolling through some of the posts I notice is one digit up from Mark Sawyer’s. Serial number is 31267. Mine is brass, not black. Any idea of the year?

karl french
11-Feb-2018, 18:10
Great. Didn't have that one. I'd guess 1911-1913 in terms of production year.

brett_jurgens
17-Jun-2018, 00:47
Late to the game but an interesting late night read. Why try to count sheep when you can count lens serial numbers? I have a 16" Series 11 serial 49206- non knuckler in brass. Purchased it from a photographer who found it in the attic of a studio he bought out in Omaha.

andrewch59
17-Jun-2018, 02:15
cooke ser IIa 15inch F3.5 Knuckler ser no: 126948 research by previous owner shows it was purchased in NY 1926
ser II 14.5inch f4.5 ser no: 69607

karl french
17-Jun-2018, 09:31
Great. Thanks. I didn't have those numbers on my list and the date confirmation is an extra bonus.

brett_jurgens
17-Jun-2018, 12:24
In the thread you spoke some of non portrait Cooke serial numbers. I have a rapid rectilinear marked "Taylor Taylor & Hobson Leicester". No 2643. 15x12 R.R. EQ. FOC. 18.06 IN. Does any one else have one of their Rrs? There is not much online about them. Somewhere I had read that Taylor restarted their serial numbers around 1890, and that this may be from the first set.

peter brooks
30-Jul-2018, 12:11
Great thread. I've just become the proud owner of serial no. 109422 (already on your list), a Series II 10.5 inch f4.5.

It was being sold without a flange - as I umm'd and aah'd about pushing the button what should come up on ebay but a 'LARGE ALUMINIUM LENS MOUNTING FLANGE - 70mm INSIDE DIAMETER - COOKE TAYLOR HOBBS' (sic). Serendipity indeed, a 2.75 inch flange!

Query - is there any problem using an aluminium flange with a brass lens? I'm aware of the perils of galvanic action but the internet also counters this with 'it would have to be wet and salty for it to be a problem'. Anyone have long term experience of using an aluminium flange with a brass lens?

Marc_Andrew
30-Jul-2018, 14:09
I have a Cooke Series VI 18" 5.6 knuckler - Serial 197590

drewf64
30-Jul-2018, 15:51
Very interesting thread !

I am the new owner of a:
Engraved "Taylor-Hobson Cooke Portrait Anastigmat"
12 3/4 inch
Knuckler
f4.5
Brass
Engraved "Made in England"
Serial # 116334
Engraved " Sharp Soft Focus 1 2 3 "
Purchased in an antique shop at the New Jersey Shore.

peter brooks
3-Aug-2018, 13:16
71780, a Series II 10.5 inch f4.5 is on UK / European ebay at the moment (from France). Very similar to mine but it has the normal TTH engraving (mine doesn't - any ideas? - see my separate thread), and the aperture numbers go in the opposite direction!

karl french
3-Aug-2018, 15:07
Thanks for those numbers. That's the earliest knuckler on my list so far.

Peter, it's hard to say what the story is with the no engraving thing with your lens barrel. There are a lot of minor variations on the lenses through the production run. Sort of like why/when did the II.B. vs IIB labeling change?

Amedeus
13-Aug-2018, 11:37
I just picked up a similar age Series II 10.5" f4.5 with serial 70403.

No graduations on the Soft/Sharp scale but the barrel turns well 1.5 turns between stops, different design than my other no-knucklers on the mechanical front.

Cheers


71780, a Series II 10.5 inch f4.5 is on UK / European ebay at the moment (from France). Very similar to mine but it has the normal TTH engraving (mine doesn't - any ideas? - see my separate thread), and the aperture numbers go in the opposite direction!

Amedeus
29-Aug-2018, 13:53
Cooke IIA, 12.5", f3.5, serial 97957, no-knuckler and soft focus mechanism is of the push/pull variety

Cheers,

fabphoto73
4-Sep-2018, 05:29
Early Cooke Portrait Series II 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 inches Eq. Focus 13 inches Serial No. 15025 'unscrew three turns for sharpest definition' (rear element)

karl french
4-Sep-2018, 09:03
Great. Thanks. Didn't have 15025 and I noted that 97957 is a push/pull lens. Push/pull seems to be one of the more uncommon variations of these lenses considering how infrequently they are seen on the market. Lots of turn the rear element, rotate barrel and knucklers out there.

Photoplasia
6-Sep-2018, 08:47
Just acquired this lens - Cooke Anastigmat Lens 8x10 inches f5.6 No. 18921 13 inch Series IV

Amedeus
6-Sep-2018, 12:37
Great. Thanks. Didn't have 15025 and I noted that 97957 is a push/pull lens. Push/pull seems to be one of the more uncommon variations of these lenses considering how infrequently they are seen on the market. Lots of turn the rear element, rotate barrel and knucklers out there.

I should have noted for 97957, push-pull for soft/sharp respectively and rotate the barrel for aperture ... the first one ever I see that way.

Rudi

Marco Ferrarini
13-Sep-2018, 00:17
Thank you for starting this post. I've been trying to figure out what I have here for some time. There is no series designation nor focal length indicated but I would guess around 13" from projecting a window image against the opposite wall. F4.5 is the widest aperture. The soft focus adjustment is at the rear, two arrows and "unscrew three turns for sharpest definition" very faintly engraved (must be a chore to keep detaching the lens from the camera to achieve the desired definition). On the barrel is engraved "Cooke Portrait Lens H D Taylor's patents, May 28 1895 Sept 22 1896, Taylor Taylor & Hobson Ltd, New York Leicester & London, No 13647.
What's the vintage of this beast?

peter brooks
18-Sep-2018, 12:00
120574 is on your list already but is not noted as being a knuckler - it is a knuckler, it's on UK / Europe ebay at the moment on sale from Germany.

(Unless someone has added the knuckles of course, note that the seller says 'Everybody knows the Knuckler version of this lens with its skyrocketing prices on the market' :eek: Only joking - I think...)

karl french
18-Sep-2018, 18:51
Yes, I just added that one. I've stopped indicating knucklers on the list after 116,000 (or so) range, as I assume every lens after the earliest knuckler I have will also have them. It would be interesting to find an non-knuckler out of sequence and the earliest knuckler.

karl french
18-Sep-2018, 19:02
Marco, I'd guess 13647 was produced sometime shortly after the turn of the century. (1904? maybe)

peter brooks
7-Jan-2019, 12:45
Serial number I think is 28861 but someone best check...

Series II f4.5 407mm (~16")
Agents Generaux pour la Republique Argentine
Rossi & Lavarallo
Buenos Airies

Looks like engraving in Spanish for the softness adjustment.

UK/Europe ebay item number 264058589496 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lens-Brass-Cooke-Portrait-4-5-407mm-Series-II/264058589496)

Quite a price eh? (I have no association with the item, nor will I have :) ).

peter brooks
7-Jan-2019, 13:51
Another... Serial number 12828 'Unscrew three turns for sharpest definition' Series II f4.5 Equiv focus 8"

UK/Europe ebay item number (completed item) 192759293486 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Early-Taylor-Hobson-cooke-portrait-Brass-Lens-200mm-f4-5-Soft-Focus-Wet-Plate-/192759293486)

karl french
8-Jan-2019, 07:49
Thanks. I didn't have 12828 on my list and I noted the French engraving on 28851.

peter brooks
12-Oct-2019, 12:54
Series II f4.5 10.5" serial number 76965 Europe ebay 202782469378 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TAYLOR-HOBSON-COOKE-ANASTIGMAT-10-1-2-Inch-f-4-5-SERIES-II-SOFT-FOCUS-266mm/202782469378) (I have no association with the item).

Tin Can
12-Oct-2019, 13:14
Same one FS in NA

karl french
12-Oct-2019, 15:55
Didn't have that one. Thanks.