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asenabed
18-Apr-2017, 11:58
Hello,
I am new to this and wanted to open a thread where in the futur I can ask somethings untill I keep learning.
I want to buy large format camera and work on the streets with tourists.I don't know how to use it,I know there is learninb period and it is not easy.
Can u give me some link with aome guide where I can learn how to managr it the basics.There is a lot of info around but always it is for soesific question.I want just the basic tutorial for beginers.
What format I should choose.I am doing this in Spain.Madrid.The european standart for cantineter is for cameras also?Is 13x8 = 4x5?What about the sheets I found them expensive and the cheeper are the Shanghai(~1$ per hit).What format sheets will find in Madri(I am not there now).Generaly what kind of sheet will need for portrets(iso)I am going for black/white photos.
Can u guide me to some shop,I prefer cheep antique looking camera.
Tnanks

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Drew Bedo
19-Apr-2017, 07:37
Ansel Adfams wrote the book on this: "The Camera". There are other books available.

I checked Amazon using the search terms, :Book, View Camera", and got several results.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/147-6201351-6293559?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Book%2C+View+Camera

Tracy Storer
19-Apr-2017, 08:42
http://www.largeformatphotography.info/
There's a lot already here on the site.

asenabed
19-Apr-2017, 08:57
What are the usual format I found a lot 4x5 but it seems little tk trap tourist eye and for portret photo.I saw 5x7 and 8x10.What standart jse there in Europe inc or cantimeter(for format,I know is cantimeter.I found on ebay 13x18cm camera,seems tbere are no sheets for this.Can be transformed 13x18 to smaller format?

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Dan Fromm
19-Apr-2017, 09:09
I think what you want is called an Afghan Camera. A large box camera with room inside for processing chemicals etc. I'm not clear on how the prints delivered to the customer are made.

Here are a few links that should help you:

http://www.afghanboxcamera.com/ It has a link to an e-book on making one.

http://instantfilmsociety.com/in-the-making-an-afghan-box-camera-aka-the-cuban-polaroid/

Alan Gales
19-Apr-2017, 09:17
The most common sheet film size is 4x5. If I were you I'd look for a 4x5 camera after doing your research.

Most large format cameras require a tripod. If you want to shoot hand held then you will need something like a Crown Graphic. They are common in the United States and available on Ebay. If using a tripod you can shoot whatever you like.

You really need to do your research before buying anything. I don't know how hard it is to get film in Madrid. Check to see what's available.

Welcome to the forum.

Alan Gales
19-Apr-2017, 09:22
I think what you want is called an Afghan Camera. A large box camera with room inside for processing chemicals etc. I'm not clear on how the prints delivered to the customer are made.

Here are a few links that should help you:

http://www.afghanboxcamera.com/ It has a link to an e-book on making one.

http://instantfilmsociety.com/in-the-making-an-afghan-box-camera-aka-the-cuban-polaroid/


That's interesting, Dan!

xkaes
19-Apr-2017, 10:09
A few tips:

The BIBLE of large format is by Leslie Stroebel, "View Camera Technique", but it is NOT a beginner's guide.

As to a camera, if you want an OLD look, buy a used camera and save a LOT of money.

As to format, the larger the format, the more the film costs and the fewer film choices you will have. And the "darkroom" gear cost increases with size as well.

As to lenses, it depends on what kind of images you want to produce. I'd advise you to check out:

http://www.subclub.org/toko/

and

http://www.subclub.org/fujinon/

Two23
19-Apr-2017, 15:09
What you are thinking of is a camera that shoots b&w film, and you can process the negative and make a print while the customer waits? Those are called "Afgan box camera," and I don't know of any place that sells them any more. Here's a couple of videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-5xaVfhR8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-V3Qqx4Qpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anYmwdNuy-g


Kent in SD

asenabed
19-Apr-2017, 15:15
Yes I saw them but those are not the kind I want to use because they are bad looking.I need antic looking canera

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asenabed
19-Apr-2017, 15:22
http://m.ebay.com/itm/302283077051

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asenabed
19-Apr-2017, 15:28
http://m.ebay.com/itm/122304008524 those catch my eye

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asenabed
19-Apr-2017, 15:33
http://www.largeformatphotography.info/
There's a lot already here on the site.
Well I learner not all but the basic.For what I understand there are a lot of tricks dpending what are u going to shot.The basic is load the film in the holder focus the object put the holder remooce black cap open the lens depending the light.After that I need to flush it.I don't thing after learn to do it will be dificult.Will use some portatil darkroom tent.So what else should make problem.Should I buy camera now and start practic or need to learn more of the basics.

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cp_photo
19-Apr-2017, 16:04
There is a seller on "Etsy" who is making "Street Box Cameras" also known as "Minuteros" in Latin America and "Afghan Box Camera" in South -Central Asia.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/STREETBOXCAMERA?ref=l2-shopheader-name

I haven't seen one in person but I am interested.

John Kasaian
19-Apr-2017, 16:07
For handheld photography consider 'Graphic Graflex Photography', by Morgan and Lester
There is also a Graflex exclusive forum at
www.graflex.org
For easy instructions and info, read 'Using the View Camera' by Steve Simmons
Both books are out of print but should be easy to find used.
For a hand held 4x5 camera, an MPP or Technika might be easier to find in Europe.

John Kasaian
19-Apr-2017, 16:13
Well I learner not all but the basic.For what I understand there are a lot of tricks dpending what are u going to shot.The basic is load the film in the holder focus the object put the holder remooce black cap open the lens depending the light.After that I need to flush it.I don't thing after learn to do it will be dificult.Will use some portatil darkroom tent.So what else should make problem.Should I buy camera now and start practic or need to learn more of the basics.

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Reading is less costly than buying, especially if you don't know what you want to buy.
If someone is shooting large format near you, you should at least tag along with them and see how it all comes together.